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George Allen, Liz Cheney spin for Thompson [their headline]
msnbc.msn.com ^ | October 8. 2008 | Chuck Todd

Posted on 10/08/2007 2:12:10 PM PDT by daylilly

One of the fun parts of being the host network of the debate is finding out first who the campaigns are lining up to spin for them post-debate.

The campaign with the most interesting spinners on their team for tomorrow's CNBC/MSNBC/WSJ debate: Fred Thompson. His campaign has requested Spin Room credentials for one-time presidential hopeful/former Virginia Sen. George Allen as well as Liz Cheney, daughter of VP Cheney.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: allen; debate; debates; elections; fredthompson; georgeallen; lizcheney; msnbc; spinners
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1 posted on 10/08/2007 2:12:12 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Politicalmom; jellybean; Reagan Man

FYI


2 posted on 10/08/2007 2:13:44 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: daylilly

No bias in that headline, no siree......none, whatsoever..............


3 posted on 10/08/2007 2:15:18 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

They said that about all the candidates, as in spinning. So I guess biased against Republicans? Yes, I can see that.

I had to use the headline they had on their website.


4 posted on 10/08/2007 2:19:03 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: BlogsForFredThompson.com

FYI


5 posted on 10/08/2007 2:19:36 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: daylilly

Go Fred go!


6 posted on 10/08/2007 2:20:28 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Go Yankees!!!)
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To: daylilly

Does this mean Dick Cheney is rooting for Fred too ?


7 posted on 10/08/2007 2:23:30 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times; daylilly

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MSNBC trying to stir up more divisions among Republicans/Conservatives

Watch the posts and comments that show up on this type of lib-media generated thread

The camoed-lib-activists are out now reading from their scripts


8 posted on 10/08/2007 2:24:22 PM PDT by devolve (---- -Secret_Asian_Man_&_Dr.No-No_Sorass_-)
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To: daylilly

Anything from PMSNBC is suspect! Nothing to see here, move along!


9 posted on 10/08/2007 2:25:44 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: SirLinksalot

Schweet!!!


10 posted on 10/08/2007 2:25:55 PM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: Red Badger

“Spin” and “propaganda” mean pretty much the same thing, and while both are usually thought of as pejoratives, they aren’t necessarily so. They’ll be spinning, all right, but that’s what thet’re supposed to do, as everyone else in the “Spin Room” will be spinning too.


11 posted on 10/08/2007 2:26:56 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (But there's no sex in the Spin Room [we hope].)
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To: devolve

Oh oh, I read from the top and can see what’s coming on this thread too!


12 posted on 10/08/2007 2:30:18 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: devolve

The comments on their website sounded like DU and were absolutely nasty toward Liz Cheney. What did she ever do to insult anyone? They hate George Allen too, and Fred. And all Republicans and conservatives.


13 posted on 10/08/2007 2:30:18 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: Hunton Peck

I really like Liz Cheney representing Fred.

Hope to see one of the candidates put Matthews in his place during the debate.

That would really give them something to “spin” about....


14 posted on 10/08/2007 2:33:14 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: daylilly

Soros plants are in FULL evil mode recently. The EVIL SATANIC LIBERALS motto is “DIVIDE AND CONQUER!! That’s EXACTLY what’s taking root lately here on FR!


15 posted on 10/08/2007 2:36:40 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: daylilly
His campaign has requested Spin Room credentials for one-time presidential hopeful/former Virginia Sen. George Allen ...

Hope he doesn't call Ron Paul a macaca...

16 posted on 10/08/2007 2:38:00 PM PDT by rhinohunter
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To: SirLinksalot

Looks that way!


17 posted on 10/08/2007 2:39:40 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: rhinohunter

When is this debate to air?


18 posted on 10/08/2007 2:41:13 PM PDT by canadianally
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To: devolve; potlatch

I apologize for that headline, the worst thing about this is the use of the word spin. Plus, I didn’t write that! Is there a way to improve the headline? The article just has a bit of basic information about the debate.


19 posted on 10/08/2007 2:43:16 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: daylilly; devolve

You can ping a mod by hitting abuse on your own post and then write in what you want. LOL, please don’t hit abuse on others!

I don’t know any other way to ping a moderator, have tried writing it in but it says ‘not found’!


20 posted on 10/08/2007 2:47:35 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: canadianally
Question is....Who'll watch (CNBC/MSNBC/WSJ) on PMSNBC (w/Chrissy M./Host).....other than Freepers/Pol. workers...
21 posted on 10/08/2007 2:48:06 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: potlatch

I did that. If I change the headline, then you can’t search it, right? I would be glad to change it if I could think of a better way to say it.


22 posted on 10/08/2007 2:51:48 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: daylilly

Right. I’d leave it alone. Some get upset if you change the original title anyway. I’m not sure you’re supposed to.

Don’t worry about it, lol.


23 posted on 10/08/2007 2:57:01 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: daylilly; potlatch

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Title (FReeper comment)

Don’t blame yourself


24 posted on 10/08/2007 3:01:13 PM PDT by devolve (---- -Secret_Asian_Man_&_Dr.No-No_Sorass_-)
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To: potlatch
You can ping a mod by hitting abuse on your own post and then write in what you want.

Bad idea, because if you do that and another freeper posts the article after not finding it posted with the original title will get a "all ready posted" I've seen it to many times

25 posted on 10/08/2007 3:05:51 PM PDT by Kaslin (The Surge has worked and the li(e)berals know it)
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To: Rational Thought
I really like Liz Cheney representing Fred.

Why? What did she accomplish worth anything in 'mideastern affairs'?

Maybe she'll bring in her hubby, big time lockheed Martin lobbyist and associate of Chertoff.

But maybe this is why he (Philip Perry) quit his job as head council for Homeland Security. He said it was to 'spend more time with the family'. He had a bit of a problem when he was head council at DHS.(not to mention questionable prosecutions of border agents at the request of Mexico)

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Phil+Perry

Exposing the Dept. of Job Security (who is Philip Perry?)

[snip]Walker said the problem is "systemic" and not the fault of any single individual. But he complained that GAO has had to go through the office of General Counsel Philip Perry. Perry is married to Elizabeth Cheney, a former State Department official who is one of the vice president's two daughters. Walker said it is his understanding that people from Perry's office have to review documents GAO seeks before they are released and selectively sit in on interviews with department employees.

26 posted on 10/08/2007 3:06:22 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Kaslin; devolve

Yes, read my post #23 Kaslin.

When I said ‘write in’ I meant to be saying ‘ask the mods’ about it.


27 posted on 10/08/2007 3:11:19 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: Red Badger

Chuck Todd... piss-boy for the DNC.


28 posted on 10/08/2007 3:14:40 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: daylilly

Not sure why some are offended.

I called out a person the other day on the impression that Thompson wasn’t a serious candidate until he officially engaged in “debates”. The reason that person so eagerly wanted the debate, but wasn’t honest enough to admit, is because you don’t really debate. You play “gotcha” the whole night, then your representatives run to the cameras and start ripping your opponents and spinning you as the second coming of the Lord. Or in this Context of a GOP primary fight...It would be Ronald Reagan for conservatives.

It’s already started. Hewitt’s making a fool of himself again by mocking Thompson’s choice of Allen. I wonder if Hugh remembers Allen was a pretty good conservative representative that only barely lost Virginia despite an all out assault by WAPO and a bad year for Republicans? One we could have used about now. Seems to me that attacking Allen who clearly had a lot of support in Virginia and knowledge of its distriicts, is a damn foolhardy move since I bet in the unlikely event Romney did win, Hugh, you would want access to his voter rolls, knowledge of the ins and outs of Virgina and contacts.

I like Allen better then Spencer, that’s for certain. And no, I wasn’t among the number hitching up to the Allen ‘08 Presidential sweepstakes. Count me as someone that was more enamored with the wish Cheney would run. Bringing me to the second name on the list. The Cheney’s are the ONLY ones left in the W.H. I still like. I like her as a choice.

For the others-

— John McCain: S.C. Sen. Lindsey Graham and former Sen. Phil Gramm.
— Mitt Romney: A Michigan focus for his spinners, including brother Scott Romney and ‘06 GOP senate nominee Mike Bouchard.
— Rudy Giuliani: former Mass. Gov. Paul Cellucci (only on Romney duty?) and noted economist Michael Boskin.

Figures Mccain would have Lindsey out there. y


29 posted on 10/08/2007 3:18:44 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (SIGN THE PETITION: http://www.standwithrush.com/)
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To: Soul Seeker

Thank you.


30 posted on 10/08/2007 3:21:16 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: daylilly

You’re welcome.


31 posted on 10/08/2007 3:29:51 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (SIGN THE PETITION: http://www.standwithrush.com/)
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To: AuntB

Maybe if Mary Cheney would have been on his campaign team, it would leave the democrats stunned. Would they attack a lesbian?


32 posted on 10/08/2007 4:05:01 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Soul Seeker

Hugh Hewitt is becoming more of a shrill shill by the day.


33 posted on 10/08/2007 4:10:35 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: daylilly

Ghost written by Spritz Matthews...


34 posted on 10/08/2007 4:34:36 PM PDT by tubebender ( Freeper's Dog Bo ate my Tag Line... Again!)
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To: daylilly

Well, it IS PMSNBC, after all. I don’t know of many conservatives who watch the network’s line-up.


35 posted on 10/08/2007 4:53:57 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: daylilly

Democrats don’t spin, they lie. Then MSNBC repeats the lies.


36 posted on 10/08/2007 5:22:01 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: popdonnelly

I watched hardball tonight and it seems like Fred has to hit a homerun tomorrow or he will be attacked by the liberal media.
They have already said his campaign is a bust and this debate will make or break him. Seems like they are putting a lot more pressure on him than anyone else.
One thing about Matthews, he is hated by both sides. The moonbats seem to hate him as much as the conservatives do.


37 posted on 10/08/2007 6:15:59 PM PDT by massgoper
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To: Blue Highway

They would and they have.


38 posted on 10/08/2007 6:28:09 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: rhinohunter

rofl


39 posted on 10/08/2007 6:28:29 PM PDT by mbraynard (Tagline changed due to admin request)
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To: Soul Seeker
Any incumbent Senator that loses a state that W won two years earlier by a comfortable margin is a bust.

Allen was undisciplined. He made a lot of mistakes.

There was an interesting article in the NYT (I think) comparing an Obama event in IA versus a Thompson event. Obama made sure to actually ask the people to vote for him and his volunteers were getting everyone to fill out contact cards and to volunteer to be captains and to contact others. Volunteers were at every door.

Fred didn't ask anyone to vote for him, didn't collect any names or contact information.

Please spin that form me to explain how a such a lazy, clueless campaign is not going to make for such a lazy, clueless administration? Are you going to try and argue that the R result in IA isn't decided by ground game?

40 posted on 10/08/2007 6:38:01 PM PDT by mbraynard (Tagline changed due to admin request)
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To: upsdriver

Isn’t that an oxymoron? The left attacking a gay or lesbian?


41 posted on 10/08/2007 7:11:05 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

I remember when Mary Cheney’s book came out. I peaked at DU to see what their take was on it. You would not believe the hatred they had for her, mainly because of who her parents were. I think the left is being consistent. They hate.


42 posted on 10/08/2007 7:19:07 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: upsdriver

correct yo are, they hate. But I think ven the DU is more irrational that even the mainstream far left. Maybe it’s jut me, but I would think a Nancy Pelosi would even be shocked by comments on the DU.


43 posted on 10/08/2007 8:47:36 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: mbraynard

So when Bush’s candidacy barely scraped together a few hundred votes to win the electoral college and lost the popular vote by a nice margin, his candidacy was a bust? because as i recall four years later he comes back and adds to his electoral margins and easily takes the popular vote.

Whoever said Allen ran a great campaign in 2006? I think in many posts even while the campaign was happening I said it wasn’t a good campaign.

which was a surprise because he not only WON his election as Senator but as Governor of that state. An historical fact you seem to dismiss, I presume, because you want to write him off as, I guess, an Alan keyes type of failure.

He won state wide elections in A SWING state when clinton was President. virginia is not exactly utah, no matter how hard you try to paint it as such. The state hasn’t elected TWO successive Democrat Governors because it’s this great vast Bush country.

Guess what? Bad campaigns happen. His record up to this point as a candidate still swings in his favor. When he loses more then he wins, or at least achieves a 50/50 split then you can call him a bust and have a leg to stand on.

As for the latter, I am glad you place such a premium on a NYT’s article.

I have the feeling you think you’ve scored some kind of hit, not sure what though. Thompson is lazy, clueless and blah blah blah. Get new material. Until then, don’t waste my time.


44 posted on 10/08/2007 9:10:08 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (SIGN THE PETITION: http://www.standwithrush.com/)
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To: daylilly

Would MSNBC write a headline like this for a Democrat?


45 posted on 10/09/2007 6:15:27 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: All

Change Of Plans; Cheney, Allen Will Not Spin For Thompson
From NBC's Chuck Todd
DEARBORN, Mich. -- Quick update from the Thompson campaign. It turns out that both Liz Cheney and George Allen will now NOT be coming to Dearborn to spin for Thompson after tomorrow night's debate. The campaign had initially planned to have both here but scheduling conflicts prevented both from coming.

46 posted on 10/09/2007 7:44:01 AM PDT by yellowhammer
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To: AuntB
It is pretty sad that you see the need to run down others to attempt to prop up your own candidate's failed campaign. He doesn't even register in the latest polls, LOL!
47 posted on 10/09/2007 8:33:16 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: mbraynard

Organization is huge and so is selling yourself—for ANY executive positoin. Thompson simply doesn’t have it. That he had all of these months to put together a platform and only has this to show for it is just further evidence that he’s pulling things together.

Thompson’s biggest liability was the belief that he might not have the fire in this belly. So what does he do? He waited months on end to announce his candidacy, shuffled around his staff endlessly (including bringing on Spencer Abraham!), and launched his campaign on an incoherent message utterly lacking in substance or detail.

On top of that, he’s bumbled around and managed to anger the social conservatives who supported him as he looked at running.


48 posted on 10/09/2007 3:08:35 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: RoseofTexas

Amen to that,that guy is floating in money and will sell his soul to get the antichrist elected. Sometimes it seems like DU ganging up on Fred here...


49 posted on 10/09/2007 3:21:24 PM PDT by GregB (Please pray for my grandchildren,Anna and Jacob!!!)
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To: daylilly

Note to the GOP: Less Spin, MORE SPINE.


50 posted on 10/09/2007 3:24:28 PM PDT by Zathras
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