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La Niņa Arrives, More Hurricanes May Follow
http://www.wesh.com/news/14307154/detail.html?rss=orl&psp=news ^

Posted on 10/10/2007 5:00:48 AM PDT by chessplayer

Federal forecasters say La Niña has arrived. That could mean still more storms this hurricane season.

The La Niña weather system, created by a cooling of the eastern Pacific Ocean, reduces wind shear. That helps storms to build.

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1 posted on 10/10/2007 5:00:49 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
What happened to all of those Hurricanes that were supposed to happen this year. Or is the Rovian Halliburton Hurricane machine out for repairs???
2 posted on 10/10/2007 5:03:06 AM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: Perdogg

“What happened to all of those Hurricanes that were supposed to happen this year. Or is the Rovian Halliburton Hurricane machine out for repairs???”

And remember how last year was going to be one of the worst ever? Nothing.

Cry wolf much? How are we supposed to accept these scientists word that climate change is happening and is going to be devastating over the next 100 years when they can’t even get the 5 month hurricane season right?


3 posted on 10/10/2007 5:08:36 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: chessplayer

I’m pretty sure that we’re all going to die.


4 posted on 10/10/2007 5:13:40 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: chessplayer

They’d better hurry up. Hurricane season is over soon.


5 posted on 10/10/2007 5:16:57 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: cinives
"They’d better hurry up. Hurricane season is over soon."

Yeah, it ends in just 7 weeks!

6 posted on 10/10/2007 5:18:53 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: chessplayer

Is there an “OMG ITEOTWAWKI” ping list?


7 posted on 10/10/2007 5:23:05 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (If you agree with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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To: chessplayer

No doubt the lib media lie machine will start claiming that with the shift of control in the Congress to the Dems, and the abandonment by Bush of his opposition to global warming regulation, the danger is now passed, and the hurricanes are subsiding.


8 posted on 10/10/2007 5:27:29 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: chessplayer

...or they MAY not.


9 posted on 10/10/2007 5:27:45 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: chessplayer

I’m convinced it’s the media—mainly TeeVee. They breathlessly hype anything they can—a la “breaking news”—for ratings. Then the attention prostitutes in various gov’t bureaus seek their own minutes of fame by feeding the mass media. Feh. A pox on all their houses.

TC


10 posted on 10/10/2007 5:30:39 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: TommyDale

11 posted on 10/10/2007 5:31:55 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: chessplayer

IF WE HAVE GLOBAL WARMING-—
WHY DO WE HAVE OCEAN COOLING?


12 posted on 10/10/2007 5:32:37 AM PDT by radar101 (Duncan Hunter-The only possibility)
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To: radar101

They gave up on that “global warming” mantra when the scientific evidence proved them to be total idiots. Now it is merely referred to as “climate change”. We have had “climate change” since the Earth was formed.


13 posted on 10/10/2007 5:36:01 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: radar101

Tis a puzzlement, eh?


14 posted on 10/10/2007 5:36:32 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: radar101

Why are you yelling? Because the libs yell?


15 posted on 10/10/2007 5:37:51 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Perdogg
What happened to all of those Hurricanes that were supposed to happen this year. Or is the Rovian Halliburton Hurricane machine out for repairs???

Last I checked, there have already been two landfalling Cat 5 hurricanes this year. The region was lucky enough for that to happen in sparsely-populated areas. So it's hardly been a trivial hurricane season.

16 posted on 10/10/2007 5:38:48 AM PDT by dirtboy (Ron Paul - shrimp pimp rock schlockster surrender crustacean)
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To: TommyDale
Hurricane season is over soon."

Yeah, it ends in just 7 weeks!

... But then come the playoffs....

17 posted on 10/10/2007 5:39:34 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

LOL! I thought the same thing. The Hurricanes are in second place, but they won’t be in the playoffs until next spring!


18 posted on 10/10/2007 5:44:44 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Perdogg

“What is in store for the 2007 hurricane season?”

“The Climate Prediction Center forecasts much above normal hurricane activity for 2007:

13-16 named tropical storms
7-9 hurricanes
3-5 major hurricanes (category 3 or higher)
As of September 25, the North Atlantic has seen the following activity:

13 named tropical storms
4 hurricanes
2 major hurricanes (both category 5)”
http://www.pewclimate.org/hurricanes.cfm

Well, the forecast for named tropical storms has been met. We`re 3 short for hurricanes and one short for major hurricanes. And we still have almost 2 more months to go. Time will tell. I know the agw fanatics are crossing their fingers and hoping for more hurricanes.


19 posted on 10/10/2007 5:45:28 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Why oh Why didn’t the President sign that Kyoto Accord?, then we wouldn’t be facing this certain doom....! /sarc


20 posted on 10/10/2007 5:46:24 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: chessplayer
La Niña Arrives, More Hurricanes May Follow

Translation: We've severely undercalled the number of hurricanes two years in a row...so here's next year's reason to panic and somehow find a way to promote global warming.

kidd's prediction: La Nina will be over by July 2008 and the hurricane season will be largely unaffected by La Nina.

kidd's next prediction: The term "climate change" will be replaced by "climate uncertainty"

21 posted on 10/10/2007 5:46:56 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Slapshot68

“And remember how last year was going to be one of the worst ever? Nothing.”

Was`nt quite nothing. Last year was a normal season.


22 posted on 10/10/2007 5:46:59 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
La Niña Arrives, More Hurricanes May Follow

Translation: We've severely undercalled the number of hurricanes two years in a row...so here's next year's reason to panic and somehow find a way to promote global warming.

kidd's prediction: La Nina will be over by July 2008 and the hurricane season will be largely unaffected by La Nina.

kidd's next prediction: The term "climate change" will be replaced by "climate uncertainty"

23 posted on 10/10/2007 5:47:05 AM PDT by kidd
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To: chessplayer

“Was`nt quite nothing. Last year was a normal season.”

Not even close... very light.

“The season was unusual in that no hurricanes made landfall in the United States of America, the first such occurrence since 2001.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Atlantic_hurricane_season


24 posted on 10/10/2007 5:49:50 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: chessplayer
Federal forecasters say La Niña has arrived.

Already?? But I only heard the confirmation that JLo was pregnant this morning! And it was Las Ninas, actually, because it's dos chicas, and . . .

What? the weather? Oh, that's completely different.

Nevermind.

25 posted on 10/10/2007 5:52:14 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (When the dog bites, when the bee stings, when you're feeling sad ... Bush's fault.)
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To: chessplayer
I seem to recall that 2 SUB-tropical systems received names. Also, to get good representative data, it would be good to look into the duration/persistence of the storms — i.e., how long did they exist as tropical systems. My IMPRESSION is that this year, while we have had more storms than last year, has seen storms of short duration/ life span.

I infer you are tyring to imply their forecast was not far off. I would counter that the naming of 2 sub-tropical systems (IIRC) made them look better than actual, AND that the total storm-days was less than last year, per storm. Just a guess on that last part.

NET: They over-estimated the number, intensity and impact of the storm season, again. Their models need work ;-)

p.s. my dad, a 1940’s-era military-educated meteorologist, has correctly called the storm season so far. hmmmmmm

26 posted on 10/10/2007 6:01:31 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Blueflag
p.s. my dad, a 1940’s-era military-educated meteorologist, has correctly called the storm season so far.

Maybe, but what good is that?

We're not looking for accuracy, we're looking for loyalty to, and promotion of the CAUSE.

Now, if your dad came out and said that the REASON we're having a sub-par number of storms is GW, then we might have something.

Until that happens.... Forget it.

;->

27 posted on 10/10/2007 6:12:13 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Perdogg

They’ve correctly predicted 25 out of the last 3 hurricanes.


28 posted on 10/10/2007 6:13:14 AM PDT by Brakeman (Eh?)
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To: Slapshot68

Here is what constitutes an average/normal season;

“On average, the north Atlantic hurricane season produces 11 named storms, with six becoming hurricanes, including two major hurricanes.”
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/s2634.htm


29 posted on 10/10/2007 6:16:06 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Ah, but the trick is we are not supposed to be having normal right now. “Global Warming” is supposed to be kicking in and hurricanes are supposed to be pummeling the United States week after week.


30 posted on 10/10/2007 6:36:04 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: Slapshot68

As far as hurricanes hitting the US, last year was below normal. But for the storms themselves, it was near normal.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hurricanes/archives/2006/normal_2006.html


31 posted on 10/10/2007 6:36:55 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

I am hoping that this means a good old fashioned winter for us folks in Montana. It has been a while since we have had one. :-)


32 posted on 10/10/2007 6:51:23 AM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: jesseam

Here`s the winter forecast;

http://www.accuweather.com/promo-ad.asp?partner=&dir=aw&page=winter2006


33 posted on 10/10/2007 7:08:37 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: dirtboy

It has been trivial for the US.


34 posted on 10/10/2007 7:11:18 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: chessplayer

Sorry, I was talking about storms that actually hit the U.S. You are correct, the season was normal...however the prediction was for higher than normal activity.


35 posted on 10/10/2007 7:17:56 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: jesseam

I goofed and posted last years forecast. Here is the forecast for this season;

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2007/20071009_outlook.html


36 posted on 10/10/2007 7:18:45 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

The Accuweather long range forecast for winter 2007-08 seems to be the direct opposite of the NOAA forecast last week. Or am I missing something?


37 posted on 10/10/2007 7:24:59 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Perdogg

They only existed with insurance companies who raised rates 100+% for those of us living in hurricane areas.


38 posted on 10/10/2007 7:28:09 AM PDT by Brytani (Keeper of the FR Loofah, Bath-cap and Rubber Duckie)
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To: chessplayer

The forecasters only announced this for one reason. They want everyone to panic


39 posted on 10/10/2007 8:15:53 AM PDT by Shots
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To: Shots
They want everyone to panic.

Only panicked insurance underwriters and oil futures traders.

40 posted on 10/10/2007 8:20:38 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: chessplayer

Thanks for the info. If we can get “normal” temps with above normal precipitation, this should be a great ski season for Montana.


41 posted on 10/10/2007 9:54:20 AM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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