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Thousands of Chrysler Workers Walk Out
Yahoo / AP ^ | 10/10/2007 | EagleUSA

Posted on 10/10/2007 8:40:04 AM PDT by EagleUSA

DETROIT (AP) -- Thousands of Chrysler LLC autoworkers walked off the job Wednesday after the automaker and the United Auto Workers union failed to reach a tentative contract agreement before a union-imposed deadline.

It is the first UAW strike against Chrysler since 1997, when one plant was shut down for a month, and the first strike against Chrysler during contract talks since 1985.

The UAW apparently is staying on the job at the five plants that Chrysler already had shut down this week because of sagging sales of some models, according to a person familiar with the walkout who asked not to be identified because the situation is in flux.

Brett Ward, a forklift driver at the Sterling Heights assembly plant in suburban Detroit, said he thinks a strike is justified, but he hopes the union can get a better deal than the one it reached with General Motors Corp.

"Hopefully with a strike we'll get some better gains and get a better contract in front of us," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at biz.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: automakers; chrysler; extortion; jobs; offshore; uaw; unions
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To: finnigan2

I was just reading in the Wall Street Journal that Honda forbids hiring of idled UAW workers.


101 posted on 10/10/2007 3:14:01 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Spktyr

I just got a call from my union rep. that the stike is over. They have a tentative agreement, and to report in to work my next shift (for me that’s 2:30 pm).


102 posted on 10/10/2007 3:14:36 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

Oct. 10, 2007

The UAW and Chrysler reached a tentative agreement on a new contract, and the union called off the strike that sent thousands of workers to the picket lines at 11 a.m. Eastern. Details of the deal weren’t disclosed.


103 posted on 10/10/2007 3:16:38 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: EagleUSA

Hmm, most parasites have more sense than to kill their host.


104 posted on 10/10/2007 3:19:18 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: BurbankKarl

Good, I would too.

Oh, wait, I already do find reasons to not hire former union employees (unless they’ve had at least 5 years or 2 jobs since their union affiliation - and then they get a year probation).


105 posted on 10/10/2007 3:19:36 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: BurbankKarl
I was just reading in the Wall Street Journal that Honda forbids hiring of idled UAW workers.

I can't imagine that is legal.

106 posted on 10/10/2007 3:19:51 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

Right On...now get back to work!


107 posted on 10/10/2007 3:20:14 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
“I trust (hope) that you have done ok since then”

Thanks I’ve done fine since then. I really needed a job at that time and was very qualified. It showed me that unions are in these cases patrimonies and qualifications and skills do not matter. Being a vet sure counted for nothing.

108 posted on 10/10/2007 3:37:56 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Sunnyflorida

One other thing, American made Toyotas are great cars.


109 posted on 10/10/2007 3:41:38 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
Well, you've got a point there with the unions supporting the Democrats. For what it's worth, about half the workers are Republicans

Walk like a duck... I understand that being a Union member is part of the employment contract in cases, and it must be Hobson's Choice to feed your family or join the Union, but to say you are a Union member and a Republican... I am not sure you can do that without being a hypocrit..

110 posted on 10/10/2007 4:24:58 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: Dead Dog

I do believe they are “overglorified pimps”, as you say. But I do not believe in using the law to break them up. These people are within their rights to make these kind of deals with the union & their employers. If they monopolize the labor in a sector, the monopoly can only last so long in a free market. That’s the way it works.


111 posted on 10/10/2007 4:29:45 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: bill1952
"You have to know me." - It will cost you a thousand bucks to know me."

Wow. I was going to post about my relatives not being able to get union jobs because they were black; this kind of crap is just as bad.

I left Philly just as the Convention Center was being finished. You may have heard about the problems Rendell had with the unions there; the whole thing almost hit the wall because the unions wanted to be paid for things like plugging in vendor displays.

112 posted on 10/10/2007 4:33:05 PM PDT by radiohead (Dissolution of the IRS as we know it - Fred Thompson. Stop...You had me at "dissolution.")
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To: EagleUSA
Thousands of Chrysler Workers Walk Out

Thousands of Chrysler Workers return to work at the same time tomorrow morning.............

113 posted on 10/10/2007 4:36:00 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I could be Agent "HT")
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To: Erik Latranyi

I can’t imagine that it could possibly be illegal.

As a business owner I will hire whomever I damn well please, or not hire.

As long as I do not award one equally qualified applicant a job over another based on Race, etc, I am golden with the law.

It too bad for them, but such is life.


114 posted on 10/10/2007 4:42:04 PM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: Erik Latranyi

why not?


115 posted on 10/10/2007 4:44:31 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Erik Latranyi

let me clarify that...they dont hire from certain counties where all the laid off UAW workers live....

I will send u the article in freepmail


116 posted on 10/10/2007 4:47:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: SandwicheGuy
I am not sure you can do that without being a hypocrit..

Sure you can! If you work in an environment where the collective has the right to bargain for any raises YOU may get in the future, you side with the collective. Doesn't mean you have to also vote for Democrates in order to not be called a hypocrite............

FWIW, I lost my job (FIRED) last Nov. after almost 35 years with the company and just a mere 2 weeks before I was scheduled to get laid off along with the rest of the plant. With the LayOff Benefit, I would have received 4 months full salary then 8 months at 60%. By firing me they only had to pay me the 4 months..........

Had I been in the union that would never have happened..........And since Michigan is an "At Will" state, any company has the right to fire you whenever they want...........

Don't tell me to contact a lawyer because I have been there and done that.

If given the choice, I would never join the union but after what happened to me, I can't say that I have any loyalty left to big business...............

117 posted on 10/10/2007 4:54:15 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I could be Agent "HT")
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To: Hot Tabasco
I can't say that I have any loyalty left to big business.

Those of us a little younger have never had any loyalty to a boss/job (a reflection of how they have treated us). We're replaceable commodities. So are jobs. The only thing that lasts is your network of contacts and skill set. They will keep you working at progressively better jobs or contracts (assuming your good at what you do).

I ALWAYS scrawl 'I Don't Agree' on the signature line of non-competes. No HR drone has ever noticed.

Nobody under 50 expects to work one place for 35 years. I shudder at the thought. I'm always looking for the next opportunity.

118 posted on 10/10/2007 5:04:50 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Spktyr
Also, you've been swallowing a lot of propaganda

There is a lot of joint production but I stand by my statement in general. I supplied foreign parts said companies for a decade. So ease up on the propaganda - I made no political statements.

119 posted on 10/10/2007 5:28:58 PM PDT by Terirem ("As has been related, this Mohammed wrote many ridiculous books" St. John of Damascus)
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To: Spktyr

You misread the Japanese society where such confrontations go against their ways. The companies and unions prefer to seek cooperation that avoid confrontations.


120 posted on 10/10/2007 5:31:30 PM PDT by Terirem ("As has been related, this Mohammed wrote many ridiculous books" St. John of Damascus)
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To: Radix
Meanwhile customers are staying away from UAW products in droves.

But why are they buying products made by foreign companies who have even more radical union organizations?

121 posted on 10/10/2007 5:40:58 PM PDT by Terirem ("As has been related, this Mohammed wrote many ridiculous books" St. John of Damascus)
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To: Spktyr
http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/380549

Japanese auto workers reach out to U.S. union

Thursday, August 3, 2006 at 07:13 EDT

DETROIT — Japanese auto workers would like to join forces with US unions, a leader of the Confederation of Japanese Auto Workers said Tuesday. Labor leaders of both countries need a common agenda, according to Isao Yoshida, the leader of a JAW delegation touring North America.

Yoshida sidestepped a question on whether Japanese workers would assist the United Auto Workers as they try to organize U.S. workers at plants operated here by Honda, Nissan and Toyota. Yoshida said that the JAW is a member of the International Metalworkers Federation, the umbrella organization for unions representing auto workers, and believes workers should belong to unions.

122 posted on 10/10/2007 5:41:54 PM PDT by Terirem ("As has been related, this Mohammed wrote many ridiculous books" St. John of Damascus)
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To: mmichaels1970

I once made the mistake of purchasing a chysler product. It cured me and my two sons from repeating that mistake.


123 posted on 10/10/2007 5:41:56 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: finnigan2
- I heard on the radio yesterday that the average American auto worker makes, with other benefits, about $76. per hour.

Wow. How many years of collage do you need to be a plant worker?

124 posted on 10/10/2007 5:48:32 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Hot Tabasco
FWIW, I lost my job (FIRED) last Nov. after almost 35 years with the company and just a mere 2 weeks before I was scheduled to get laid off along with the rest of the plant.

That sucks. My condolences. But that happens and is why we all have to take more responsiblity in our lives, we can't trust government or business to take care of us. I hope you have a soft landing.

125 posted on 10/10/2007 7:22:27 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: George W. Bush

YOU: Actually, more toward them than toward you

Yeah, I figured I was a teaching vehicle but it was a good time to bump, lol, keep the faith bro’.


126 posted on 10/10/2007 7:28:53 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: EagleUSA

my dodge pickup says “made in Mexico “ on the door near the VIN


127 posted on 10/10/2007 8:52:02 PM PDT by KTM rider (Free Mexico ....Viva La Revolucion)
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To: janetjanet998
I saw on the VIN tags at the job that the only CAT product assembled in Peoria is the Wheel Loader.

IIRC

the track loaders are from France

excavators from malaysia with mitsubishi parts

and so on and so on

128 posted on 10/10/2007 8:58:56 PM PDT by KTM rider (Free Mexico ....Viva La Revolucion)
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To: bill1952; BurbankKarl
As a business owner I will hire whomever I damn well please, or not hire.

let me clarify that...they dont hire from certain counties where all the laid off UAW workers live....

Don't get me wrong. I think employers should be allowed to hire the best qualified for the job, regardless of some "group" they may or may not belong to.

I am amazed that this would be legal in our very pro-union culture (remaining from 40 years of Democrats).

BurbankKarl clarified this as Honda only hires within a geographic area....nullifying the legal issue.

Thanks, Karl!

129 posted on 10/11/2007 5:32:45 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: MileHi
>How many years of collage do you need to be a plant worker?

Yeah, how many years do you have to study art anyway? :)
(couldn't resist)

Collage: (From the French: coller, to stick) is regarded as a work of visual arts made from an assemblage of different forms, thus creating a new whole. Use of this technique made its dramatic appearance among oil paintings in the early 20th century as an art form of groundbreaking novelty.

130 posted on 10/11/2007 5:41:34 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: mmichaels1970

Many of the terms GM and Chrysler are now agreeing to were implemented back in the 90’s by Caterpillar. Caterpiallar took the stance in the 90’s they were no longer to pattern bargain. Nearly 20 years later Cat is extremely profitable and not being held hostage by the Union.

To continue to captitulate to the Union only delays the inevitable and ultimately ruins the viability of the company and the local and Regional economy.

That’s where Michigan is today.


131 posted on 10/11/2007 11:55:15 AM PDT by hillarynot (I play in Peoria)
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To: mmichaels1970

Many of the terms GM and Chrysler are now agreeing to were implemented back in the 90’s by Caterpillar. Caterpillar took the stance in the 90’s they were no longer to pattern bargain. Nearly 20 years later Cat is extremely profitable and not being held hostage by the Union.

To continue to captitulate to the Union only delays the inevitable and ultimately ruins the viability of the company and the local and Regional economy.

That’s where Michigan is today.


132 posted on 10/11/2007 11:55:31 AM PDT by hillarynot (I play in Peoria)
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To: bill1952

Sorry...


133 posted on 10/12/2007 5:28:11 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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