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Thousands of Chrysler Workers Walk Out
Yahoo / AP ^ | 10/10/2007 | EagleUSA

Posted on 10/10/2007 8:40:04 AM PDT by EagleUSA

DETROIT (AP) -- Thousands of Chrysler LLC autoworkers walked off the job Wednesday after the automaker and the United Auto Workers union failed to reach a tentative contract agreement before a union-imposed deadline.

It is the first UAW strike against Chrysler since 1997, when one plant was shut down for a month, and the first strike against Chrysler during contract talks since 1985.

The UAW apparently is staying on the job at the five plants that Chrysler already had shut down this week because of sagging sales of some models, according to a person familiar with the walkout who asked not to be identified because the situation is in flux.

Brett Ward, a forklift driver at the Sterling Heights assembly plant in suburban Detroit, said he thinks a strike is justified, but he hopes the union can get a better deal than the one it reached with General Motors Corp.

"Hopefully with a strike we'll get some better gains and get a better contract in front of us," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at biz.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: automakers; chrysler; extortion; jobs; offshore; uaw; unions
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Extortion continues to threaten to push more automotive jobs and sourcing offshore. Keep it up UAW.
1 posted on 10/10/2007 8:40:05 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

They just walked out a couple miles down the road from me here in Twinsburg. I’ll be driving by their union hall on the way home for lunch.


2 posted on 10/10/2007 8:41:44 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: EagleUSA

“Hopefully with a strike we’ll get some better gains and get a better contract in front of us,” he said.

Couldn’t better show that a union doesn’t care one whit for free market concepts like running a business.

What you will get laid in front of you is the closing notice when they shut your plant down and move.


3 posted on 10/10/2007 8:46:06 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: bill1952

Yep. THAT will fix you, Chrysler! Unions suck. Period.


4 posted on 10/10/2007 8:47:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: EagleUSA
"Hopefully with a strike we'll get some better gains and get a better contract in front of us," he said.

Chrysler is privately owned, now. You may be getting a pink slip and a see ya'...........Help Wanted signs and ads are really cheap..........

5 posted on 10/10/2007 8:48:46 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

The Leadership Goons at the UAW want the BILLIONS in retirement funds to “Manage”, and could care less about the workers....


6 posted on 10/10/2007 8:51:52 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: rlmorel
According to FNC there are seven Chrysler plants that are not on strike...those that are not making cars which includes plants that are in product reconfiguration mode and those where they have stopped making cars. So yeah Chrysler is paying people NOT TO WORK.

When I came home from the United States Navy in the late 60s I was very qualified for jobs in the telecommunication or maritime industries. In both cases I was not allowed to join the unions. Jobs were for exclusively for next of kin. I felt betrayed as a vet and have never forgiven the unions. I was treated better by the anti-war dope smoking maggot invested hippies than the unions.

7 posted on 10/10/2007 8:54:01 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: EagleUSA

Yup..picketers for about a mile down Chamberlin Road. And, pulling out of the union hall parking lot as I drove by....a Ron Paul van.


8 posted on 10/10/2007 8:55:37 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Red Badger

“Chrysler is privately owned, now. You may be getting a pink slip and a see ya’”

I hear Toyota is hiring. Of course that means the average UAW member will have to be paid what they’re actually worth.


9 posted on 10/10/2007 8:56:32 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: EagleUSA
Unions: Fighting for the rights of people too lazy to fight for themselves.

At least that was my experience as a member in the 70's.

10 posted on 10/10/2007 8:57:36 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: EagleUSA
Cartels are bad.

Free markets are good.

11 posted on 10/10/2007 8:58:12 AM PDT by TChris (Cartels (oil, diamonds, labor) are bad. Free-market competition is good.)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Have seen the same thing all through the rust belt. If you talk to most union workers long enough you always find out that there kids have all migrated away from where they grew up so they could have a career. It nevers seems to cross these idiots minds that if they weren’t so greedy (read union contracts and higher taxes to feed the unions) their children probably could find quality jobs in their hometown.


12 posted on 10/10/2007 8:58:29 AM PDT by Jigajog
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To: EagleUSA
The UAW is dead...it just doesn’t have the good sense to fall over.
13 posted on 10/10/2007 9:04:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: Sunnyflorida

I really hate painting people with the same brush. One can hardly fault people for getting as much or more as they are worth.

Except that union wages and their ramifications are not subject to free market pressures to get wages for what a product is worth.

If a football player wants to make a certain amount of money, they can ask for it at free agency, and if they are worth it, some team will sign them, knowing that their fans may well pay extra ticket prices to see the athelete, or whatever.

Unions are impervious to these pressures. The first indication that free markets will not support their extortionist practices is when the company goes under.

The union organizers just pick up and leave town. Funny how their jobs always seem to find a way to survive.


14 posted on 10/10/2007 9:07:24 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: EagleUSA
Thousands of Chrysler Workers Walk Out

Quality of Chrysler Products climbs dramatically.

15 posted on 10/10/2007 9:09:07 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I will not try to BS xsmommy. I will not try to BS xsmommy. I will not try to BS xsmommy.)
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To: EagleUSA

They figure it will last two days like the GM strike.


16 posted on 10/10/2007 9:24:48 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: EagleUSA
The Dems are behind this. Their union leader pals want publicity for their medicine giveaway plan.
17 posted on 10/10/2007 9:26:57 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: EagleUSA

Chrysler doesn’t have to pay the “surplus” workers during a strike, but can still import Chery’s from China to come in badged as Chryslers eventually.

Which is to say, Chrysler’s owner Cerebus *wants* this strike to last, and last, and last...

Thus, if the strike ends it will only be because the UAW was smart enough to cave, and cave big time.


18 posted on 10/10/2007 9:27:13 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: EagleUSA
It always cracks me up to see union thugs driving around in their big-ass vehicles, with a union decal in the back window, and all kinds of other patriotic decals.

They are completely blinded to the fact that unions are not patriotic.
They are communism on a small scale.

19 posted on 10/10/2007 9:27:23 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: EagleUSA

Reminds of the old short story “The Waistband that was Taut Until the Moment it Snapped”

In some alternate universe, it must make perfect sense to stage a walkout when your employer is going down the tubes.


20 posted on 10/10/2007 9:29:59 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: EagleUSA

Darn, did Daimler pull the EJECT lever at the right time, or what?


21 posted on 10/10/2007 9:31:16 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: EagleUSA
Chrysler pays about $76/hr including bennies. Toyota pays about $46/hr including bennies.

Earth to the rank-and-file...

22 posted on 10/10/2007 9:33:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: EagleUSA
Extortion continues to threaten to push more automotive jobs and sourcing offshore. Keep it up UAW.

Well, it's collective bargaining. Sort of like paying an attorney to represent you - like the guys who make millions do to negotiate their contracts. The unions are the poor man's version of that.

Times are changing. There are some of the "old guard" union workers still around - if you have a bad attitude it sure helps to be close to retirement - but the newer people realize that their jobs are not guaranteed if the company goes out of business because they can't make a profit.

The other side of the coin is that auto workers do support other peoples' businesses - So the money does get spread around a bit. If an auto company goes out of business and the auto workers lose their jobs - well, other people are going to be feeling the effects of that too.

Most of the people I know understand the new reality that has been in place for quite some time - that the American consumer has plenty of options, and that our jobs are by no means guaranteed.

23 posted on 10/10/2007 9:38:41 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: EagleUSA

The best thing Chrysler could do is completely start over as a non-union company. They are aware of the successes Toyota and Honda are enjoying, and how unsustainable and flawed the Big 3’s business models are.

The UAW had 1.5 million members in 1979, now they have less than 600,000. The UAW’s greed and foolishness will lead to their own extinction.


24 posted on 10/10/2007 9:40:31 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: rlmorel

union wages and their ramifications are not subject to free market pressures to get wages for what a product is worth


Bingo! no matter how mediocre a worker is he/she gets the same hourly wage as the guy who works his butt off. The govt unions are worst in that respect.

Unions are the religion of the mediocre.


25 posted on 10/10/2007 9:40:55 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: bill1952

What you will get laid in front of you is the closing notice when they shut your plant down and move.”

There are still Union menbers in South Bend, Indiana who are sitting on their porches waiting for Studebaker to come back and reopen.

The real die-hard union members will NEVER sign the front of a paycheck——only the backside.


26 posted on 10/10/2007 9:42:00 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: EagleUSA

I hope this strike lasts 6 months. I want the union to deplete its strike fund and have NO money to give to Democratic candidates this election cycle.


27 posted on 10/10/2007 9:42:01 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: EagleUSA

I reckon they need some more money to pay for all of the upcoming demoncrap propaganda that will make Hillary look like a Saint eh?


28 posted on 10/10/2007 9:42:16 AM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter '08)
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To: EagleUSA
Daimler sold Chrysler for a loss so ya....now's a good time to walk off the job.

Freakin' morons.

29 posted on 10/10/2007 9:43:25 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam is a clown car with guns.)
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To: bill1952

What you will get laid in front of you is the closing notice when they shut your plant down and move.”

There are still Union menbers in South Bend, Indiana who are sitting on their porches waiting for Studebaker to come back and reopen.

The real die-hard union members will NEVER sign the front of a paycheck——only the backside.


30 posted on 10/10/2007 9:44:26 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: LetsRok

I want the union to deplete its strike fund and have NO money to give to Democratic candidates this election cycle.
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Good point and idea. The unions need to be abolished once and for all. It would be one of the best things that could happen to American business, and liberal-supported extortion as well.


31 posted on 10/10/2007 9:51:25 AM PDT by EagleUSA (W)
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To: Sunnyflorida
When I came home from the United States Navy in the late 60s I was very qualified for jobs in the telecommunication or maritime industries. In both cases I was not allowed to join the unions. Jobs were for exclusively for next of kin. I felt betrayed as a vet and have never forgiven the unions...

Sorry about your experience - I am assuming you are referring to the trade unions primarily - for all I know they may still be like that. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the union jobs in the auto companies were the same at that time though.

I trust (hope) that you have done ok since then. Sometimes we have to bounce around a bit before landing something decent.

I got out of the Marines in '78. After about 4 years of low-paying electronic service jobs I finally got a break.

I was (and still am) an amateur radio operator and at a club I was a member of one of the older guys told me about an fellow HAM who was a supervisor at Chrysler HQ and was starting up a department to do testing. I put in a resume to Chrysler.

Afeter about 18 months I got interviewed and because I had a Technician Class amateur radio license and a First Class Commercial Radiotelephone license (with Radar endorsement) I got hired in.

So I had a lucky break.

I can only say that the UAW has lost a lot of power, and most of the people I know understand this completely.

32 posted on 10/10/2007 9:53:39 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: BallyBill
Unions: Fighting for the rights of people too lazy to fight for themselves.

At least that was my experience as a member in the 70's.

Well, times are a bit different now. You can slack off when you have the market locked up, but when you lose enough market share to go through a few rounds of layoffs the reality hits home.

33 posted on 10/10/2007 9:57:53 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: LetsRok
hope this strike lasts 6 months. I want the union to deplete its strike fund and have NO money to give to Democratic candidates this election cycle.Well, you've got a point there with the unions supporting the Democrats.

For what it's worth, about half the workers are Republicans, with a smattering of third party voters. Half the people do vote and support the Democrats (just like half the country).

I do think you're going to see big business pushing for Hiliary-Care, or some version of socialized medicine - to get out from under the health care burden for the employees, especially the retirees - which is really killing them $$$ wise.

34 posted on 10/10/2007 10:03:34 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: EagleUSA

http://tinyurl.com/2on8tb

The bargaining appeared to hinge on the UAW granting the same health care cost concessions to Chrysler as it did to GM and Ford in 2005, and on how much Chrysler would pay into a company-funded, UAW-run trust that would take on its roughly $18 billion worth of retiree health care costs. GM has already agreed to form such a trust.

Also at issue was the union’s desire for job security pledges at U.S. factories and Chrysler’s wish to contract out parts transportation now done by higher-wage union members, according to a person briefed on the talks.


35 posted on 10/10/2007 10:08:48 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: ridesthemiles
I am very bitter to unions in general.

all I hear from the one union acquaintance that I have left is how we need tariffs to protect the American jobs.

Unf*cking believable.

When I point out that it was the unions that drove those companies out of business, he starts to argue, but stops.

I was a steelworker back in the day when America still had an industrial base, and I just remind him that those industries existed long before the union crime families moved in.

And they would still be here today if there were no unions.

Hell, I liked my job.

36 posted on 10/10/2007 10:16:08 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: EagleUSA

Chrysler eyes cutting 1,500 non-union jobs
Automaker eyeing 5 percent cut in salaried staff, more than one-third reduction in contract employees as it tries to negotiate new cost savings with union.

http://tinyurl.com/35ckeb

As many as 415 of 8,300 non-union white-collar employees at the Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters may be let go, the people said. Chrysler may also shed one-third of its 3,000 workers hired on a temporary basis, said the people, who didn’t want to be named because the plan isn’t public.

The reductions would add to the 11,000 hourly and 2,000 salaried jobs Chrysler said in February would be cut over three years, before it was bought by private-equity firm Cerberus Capital Management LP. Chrysler is seeking health-care concessions from the United Auto Workers, and the union may strike if there’s no contract agreement by 11 a.m. tomorrow.

http://tinyurl.com/39u56c


37 posted on 10/10/2007 10:16:18 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: EagleUSA

Take from the working to give to the elite;

http://www.unionfacts.com/unions/unionProfile.cfm?id=149

United Auto Workers (UAW)
National Headquarters
8000 E JEFFERSON
DETROIT, MI 48214

Leadership
Top 10 International UAW Leaders & Staff (by Salary)
Name Title Total Compensation
Ronald Spurlock Servicng Rep $ 167,951
Moses Green Ass’t Minor $ 167,576
Jamesell Kee Strk Ins Rep $ 162,499
Helen Lesley Ass’t Major $ 160,163
Stanley Reasons Servicng Rep $ 160,044
Ned Scott Servicng Rep $ 159,520
Ronald Gettelfinger President $ 158,530
Timothy Novak Servicng Rep $ 157,726
Albert Carnes Servicng Rep $ 157,148
John Sangster Servicng Rep $ 156,993
[show all officers & salaries]

Source: Department of Labor, Office of Labor Management Standards LM filings
UnionFacts.com is committed to 100% accuracy. Please contact us with factual corrections & comments.


38 posted on 10/10/2007 10:19:43 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: EagleUSA
Thanks in large measure to the unions, Big Three American cars are no longer the first choice of American car buyers. Unions have become what they once fought against and I hope the UAW finally puts Chrysler, Ford and GM out of business. Perhaps then American auto manufacturing can start over.
39 posted on 10/10/2007 10:21:05 AM PDT by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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To: EagleUSA
Toyota is investing billions in the NE Mississippi area. Chrysler can go down the tubes with its Unions....There is a Union shop at the papermill at Counce, Tennessee, and many of the Union workers there are completely Democrat and have no idea of what drives an economy..Any debate with them using facts rapidly deteriorates into them threatening you physically.
40 posted on 10/10/2007 10:26:01 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: GBA

Perhaps then American auto manufacturing can start over.
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Yes, without unions. Then maybe they can compete against Japan, the world leader in quality autos. They don’t allow unions. They are much smarter than we are....the big three built GIGANTIC CORPORATE WELFARE STATES that finally caught up with them. Japan compensates workers other ways -— and is kicking the butts of the big three, as well as many Euro makers in terms of sales and quality.


41 posted on 10/10/2007 10:29:54 AM PDT by EagleUSA (W)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil; Sunnyflorida
Jobs were for exclusively for next of kin. I felt betrayed as a vet and have never forgiven the unions

Damn right he is talking about trade unions and their criminal leadership!

Back in the early 70s I stood and watched a mob of Building & Trade council members burn the King of Prussia, Pa. Sheraton site to the ground.

Lennard Tose was making the unforgivable sin of hiring non union labor so they bused in their memebers from other states to "picket."

After the riot, the Feds stepped in and imprisoned quite a few of those leaders.
When I was working my favorite job as a steelworker, I knew damn well that Alan Wood Steel could not survive with the union demands. - and it did not.
I never forgave them for that.

As far as the trades went, I remember when I was working at Western Electric (CWA) that I tried to get a job as an electrician I had to be a union member.
When I went to the person in charge at the union hall, he simply told me. "You have to know somebody"
I started giving him the references of other union members when he broke in and said "You have to know me." - It will cost you a thousand bucks to know me."

Whats the difference between a union and organized crime? Ask Jimmy Hoffa.

42 posted on 10/10/2007 10:32:18 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: EagleUSA

If the Automakers would have followed the Caterpillar model of the early 1990’s in dealing with Union extortion, both they and the economy of Michigan would be much better off today.


43 posted on 10/10/2007 10:34:01 AM PDT by hillarynot (I play in Peoria)
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To: vetvetdoug

many of the Union workers there are completely Democrat and have no idea of what drives an economy

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Democrats = High Tax Rates + Less Opportunity


44 posted on 10/10/2007 10:35:45 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: vetvetdoug

Toyota is investing billions in the NE Mississippi area. Chrysler can go down the tubes with its Unions....There is a Union shop at the papermill at Counce, Tennessee, and many of the Union workers there are completely Democrat and have no idea of what drives an economy..Any debate with them using facts rapidly deteriorates into them threatening you physically.
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The world has the unions’ number now. Just a mob of extortionist thugs. Honda is building a plant in Indiana and they cut the unions off at the knees, by announcing they would only hire from the closest 20 counties, which excludes laid-off union thugs. Again, they are wise to the UAW thugs and want nothing to do with them. Smart...much smarter than the big 3.


45 posted on 10/10/2007 10:36:25 AM PDT by EagleUSA (W)
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To: Sunnyflorida

“Jobs were for exclusively for next of kin. I felt betrayed as a vet and have never forgiven the unions. I was treated better by the anti-war dope smoking maggot invested hippies than the unions.”

Longshoremens are the worst.


46 posted on 10/10/2007 10:38:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: ridesthemiles

“There are still Union menbers in South Bend, Indiana who are sitting on their porches waiting for Studebaker to come back and reopen.”

LOL!


47 posted on 10/10/2007 10:43:50 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: bill1952

I like the idea of Tarriffs, not for protectionism, but for revenue. Get rid of Income Tax, and go to import and export tarriffs.


48 posted on 10/10/2007 10:53:06 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: hillarynot

cmon...are you going to make me go out and research the “Caterpillar model of the early 1990’s” or will you go easy on me and give me the general answer?


49 posted on 10/10/2007 10:54:02 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
I do think you're going to see big business pushing for Hiliary-Care, or some version of socialized medicine - to get out from under the health care burden for the employees, especially the retirees - which is really killing them $$$ wise.

Hillary care won't save them, and would likely make them less competitive in the long run.

Government health care isn't free. It is paid for by taxpayers. That means the middle and upper classes. That means their workers and their stockholders.

If we get socialized medicine, they will still end up paying for the health care of their workers as well as a share of the health care of lots of other people that don't work.

50 posted on 10/10/2007 10:55:31 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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