Skip to comments.Fred Doesn't Fall: Thompson makes it through his first debate
Posted on 10/10/2007 8:54:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
If Fred Thompson is lazy, he sure didn't act it preparing for his first debate. Over two weeks, the former Tennessee senator and his aides held more than half a dozen question-and-answer sessions. Bush's first economic adviser, Larry Lindsey, was involved, as were Vice President Cheney's daughter Liz Cheney and GOP veteran Mary Matalin. There were also two full-blown rehearsals in which Liz Cheney's husband played John McCain, Rep. Adam Putnam stood in for Mitt Romney, and former New York Sen. Al D'Amato played Rudy Giuliani. To add verisimilitude to his character, D'Amato pretended to take a phone call in the middle of one session.
The preparation paid off. Thompson didn't win the nightRudy Giuliani didbut he got through gaffe-free and at times seemed informed and in command. He came off as genuinely unaffected instead of irritatingly folksy. This may seem like a limited achievement, and it was, but Thompson has had such tough going recently that even a limited success is a win for him. Nervous staffers can now feel a little better about their boss, and disaffected GOP voters anxious to believe that Thompson is the candidate they've been looking for were given enough material to extend their dream.
The low expectations that Thompson cleared were a little phony. In retrospect, it shouldn't surprise us that an actor trained in memorizing short snippets of dialogue was able to perform in a setting where candidates are cut off if they speak in anything but short snippets of dialogue. But for those who watch debates like car racesonly for the crashesThompson's first appearance had offered promise.(continued)
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Stands to reason. CFR member Fred is prompted by this globalist CFR administration to shine. This administration who is pushing to get L.O.S.T. passed, and get comprehensive amnesty for illegals sneaked into any bill coming up; who has signed away our sovereignty with the NAU, and is now pushing to get one of their very own nominated to inherit “the throne”. No thank you very much!
Yeah, that’s why Chrissy Matthews, Saturday Night Live, George Will, and 98% of the drive-by media are going after him hammer & tongs. Right, that’s them trying to get him coronated as King of the NAU. Do you realize how freaking silly you sound? You’re a Hunterite? You sound more like a Paulestinian to me...
Fred? An absolute outrage, I mean who the heck wants some Mayor of Massachusets as President. Those people haven’t gotten over their energy crisis yet, what would he know?
Now, did I call you any names for how you view the situation?
The country is just where it is because no one wants to listen to what has been going on for decades now, or take the responsibility to do anything about it.
Actually, I’ve heard some rather nice things said about Fred Thompson’s appearance in the debate, though I think Duncan Hunter called him out royally.
It could be he is just a nice guy who is being used. It wouldn’t be the first time.
Don't forget the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission .
< / sarc >
He lets Clinton off the hook on obstruction of justice charges, and his NBC/Hollywood pals reward him with more face time. Now he's recognizable because America watches TV.
The drivebys are going after him because they see him as a threat to Hillary.
Fred's a midget when you compare his record to Hunter's.
At least Fred knows the correct procedure if he ever has to take out certain Nuclear, Military and Industrial complexes that threaten the lives and safety of Americans... He also does not have to ask his “attorney’s” what to do... he is an experienced US Attorney... a three term Senator... and by golly... he is somewhat of a Constitutional Scholar... but them mitt did look so dashing in that $2800.00 suit!
Fred stood tall above the herd. He is real and down to earth. He impresses me as someone who understands the common man. Unlike Rommney the fact spewing robot. Rudy is too liberal. Huckabee suffers from inheriting Bll Clintons former position in Arkansas. Do they watch cartoons and Andy Griffith reruns all day in the Governors mansion what was up with his two tv references. The rest of them haven’t got a chance much less a clue.
Obviously, somebody missed this major article from yesterday.
Bartlett on the GOP Field: A Hick, a “Dud” and a “Flip-Flopper”
Washington Post ^ | 10/9/08 | The Trail
One of President Bush’s closest advisers has a brutally candid analysis of the Republican nomination battle: Fred Thompson is the campaign’s “biggest dud,” Mitt Romney has “a real problem in the South” because people will not vote for a Mormon, Mike Huckabee’s last name is too hick and John McCain could end up repeating 2000 by winning New Hampshire but losing the nomination... ...Bartlett was harshest in his judgment of Thompson, the former Tennessee senator who jumped into the contest a month ago and faces his first televised debate today.
Not quite. He voted guilty on article II, obstruction of justice. He voted not guilty on article I, perjury. He stated that in spite of his personal feelings in the matter, the evidence actually presented on the first article did not support a guilty vote. If you're going to knock him, at least do so for the correct thing.
Paperdoll, your support of Hunter is admirable. Your connect-the-dots game with Fred is silly.
Rudy didn’t win the night although he did very well. I would say that Fred won the night with Mitt right behind. Mitt’s huge gaff may have really hurt his chances. Rudy is by far the most articulate and personable with no fear of mixing it up. Obviously not a Republican.
Pray for W and Our Troops
For all of Romney’s problems in the South, Giuliani has it worse. As the primaries approach and people pay more attention, he will have a hard time carrying any southern states. I find it funny that Thompson takes it on the chin for being part of the Powers That Be and yet also takes it on the chin from those same Powers because they fear him.
I started as a Hunter fan. Seeing the attitude of some of the others made me drop back and watch. When Fred came along, I decided that I could support my former Senator. At least he is someone that I learned to trust to follow his convictions and to tell the truth. If Hunter pulls a miracle and becomes competitive, I would reevaluate him and I would pull the lever for him in the General with no hesitation.
Romney has changed too much, too recently. He leaves me with the feeling that he is saying whatever it takes with no real understanding or conviction. Giuliani is no Conservative, at least not one that I could pull the lever for. Huckabee has problems of his own on immigration and other issues that disqualify him in the primary for me.
There is no candidate with a chance for me to support other than Thompson.
Look at my profile. I know all about what you are commenting on. If it’s true, they’re hiding it from some VERY bright people.
A three term Senator? That’s news to me. I didn’t criticise Thompson’s appearance in the debate or anything he said. I thought he did rather well as a matter of fact.
The only other candidate I mentioned was not the “dashing” Mitt Romney, but the serious and sincere Duncan Hunter. :)
*FRed Derangement Syndrome
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You could hardly manage a more absurd claim. Thompson's record in Congress is at least the equal of Hunter's, and I'm not knocking Hunter. He's a good man, just unable to get significant traction, that's all.
And it is really disingenuous to drag out the "let Clinton off the hook" canard. Fred voted to convict on the perjury count. Either one of them would have been enough to remove the bent one from office, but you know as well as I do that the ENTIRE Senate chickened out of doing its duty.
Funny how Fred is in favor of NONE of that...
Wake me up when you have something substantial to say!
I love seeing the left and the RINOs FEAR Fred's candidacy. GOOD !
>Look at my profile. I know all about what you are commenting on. If it’s true, they’re hiding it from some VERY bright people.<
2nd, we checked each other out months ago, remember?
Incidentally, today in the parking lot of Borders Books, a young man approached me because of my Duncan Hunter bumper sticker and waxed so enthusiastic about DH. I asked him if he had a bumper sticker, or if he wanted one. Of course he did, so I opened the trunk and gave him about six, with a brochure and a contribution envelope. We stood there and talked for quite a while, mostly why he likes Hunter so much.
Came to find out that he’d just retired from the military after 22 years, and had been stationed on a ship in the middle East where the president had visited. He said the men and women serving over there are spectacular people, very dedicated. He said the media here has the story all wrong, that things are going very well in Iraq.
A very nice young man actually thanked me for the gift of meeting me! We exchanged phone numbers so he can help with the Hunter campaign here. A very pleasant experience. We really do have unusually fine people in our military, very polite and clean cut. Prayers going up for each and every one of them daily. And thank you again for your fine service.
Gee, is being wrong a habit.
Thompson did not let Clinton "off" on anything. He voted FOR the obstruction charge and in a very well prepared statement could not support that the perjury rose to an impeachable offense.
The end result is Fred said he should be impeached, the obstruction charge was more than sufficient.
Remember RIF many years ago, Reading is fundamental? Try it, and get your damn facts straight.
Just want to keep clarity.
are the dems freeping the FR poll and voting for ron paul?
i suspect they are...
Yes, and FRed has still managed to be on top, with over twice as many votes as the runner up.
Have I mentioned that Free Republic is FRed Country?
Most folks think "Campaign finance reform" when instead it means councle of foreign relation, etc.
Please, please use the full wording instead of the initials, since everyone winds up looking like they are fighting in the tower of babble.
You are right. I had it backwards. Thanks.
Looks like we keep the cork in it on this one, folks.
Good. I don’t think I should drink and ping.
Hunter’s a midget when you compare his electability to Fred’s.
Thank you, Sonny, I’ll do that. :)
That’s a great story! Thanks for sharing!
Oh, ye of little vision.
You are welcome, ups. It makes all our hard work well worth the trouble when you meet people like that doesn’t it? :)
Sure does. I have been telling my youngest brother about Duncan and have been sending him emails to educate him. Last nite, I went to pick him and my 13 yr old nephew up to go out for supper. His son was on the computer and asked his dad who he liked for president. My brother said Duncan Hunter, why? Nephew replied he just took an online test and found out he agreed most with Duncan Hunter. He had never heard of Hunter so was impressed that his dad supported him, too. Ron Paul and all the dems were at the bottom of his list.
Before I talked to my brother about Hunter, he had never heard of him. That is our challenge, to educate the public. The more one learns about him, the more they like him. Duncan Hunter is an easy sell to educated people.
My husband said at diner tonight the R.G.will be last man standing againt the Hill and he felt he was the only man to beat her.I have been taking a little thrift store poll and they are all for the Hill.
Of course they are! She’s a female Santa Claus with a big bag of goodies bought with your & my money! Of course the underclass and illegals will be voting (several times each) for her. The dems might not even have to bribe as many voters with smokes and Thunderbird wine as they did in 2000!!
I am only telling you from people walking in the door.Lower to middle class.They like her position on abortion and health care.
We have a choice: A socialist, socialist weenies or a conservative who will help in the fight to preserve your freedom and keep you from being turned into a socialist slave.
Wish Hunter could make a stronger showing, perhaps in the next administration?
I've seen "Secretary of Defense" suggested on several occasions, each time by Freepers more knowledgeable than me on his qualifications.
The biggest thing I got out of the debate was that Ron Paul lives in an alternate reality. His commentary regarding "Imminent Attacks" was jaw dropping.
The Secretary of Energy and FEMA director are usually military veterans or people familiar with that area, as well.
No prob, just want to keep it straight for the Gnats.
Gosh, us morons must not get it then...