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Hispanics see red over proposal
The Eagle ^ | 10/10/2007 | Anabelle Garay

Posted on 10/11/2007 10:12:08 AM PDT by dr.zaeus

FARMERS BRANCH -- Some residents of this Dallas suburb that tried to ban apartment rentals to illegal immigrants now want the city to regulate which colorful hues people can paint their homes.

Although the City Council hasn't decided whether to consider any house paint restrictions, Hispanic leaders say it's yet another effort to target Latinos in the city.

"I believe controlling the color you paint your house is basically profiling the Hispanic community," said Elizabeth Villafranca, whose family owns a Mexican restaurant in Farmers Branch. "We all know who paints their homes tropical colors."

Two residents asked that the council discuss mandatory exterior color standards for buildings.

Such paint ordinances are usually set by homeowners' associations in the suburbs. Historical districts also regulate colors in an effort to preserve the original appearance of homes, said Jeffrey Rous, a University of North Texas professor who teaches urban economics.

Farmers Branch resident Tom Bohmier wonders whether there's a way to balance ruling out some shocking colors while keeping individuality. One of his neighbors has a home painted in several colors, including a flashy blue.

"It tends to harm the value of the neighborhood when people are shopping for homes," he said.

But Rous, who's building a home in Farmers Branch, questions whether it's proper for government to decide which color palette is considered garish or beautiful.

"To say that we're going to have government officials dictate what constitutes good aesthetics, I'm not sure local elected officials should be making those decisions," Rous said. "I'm not sure what the need is for this."

Victorian homes are often painted bright blue or peacock green. Buildings in South Beach typically have outside lights in electric purples and yellow. Structures in Santa Fe blend into the desert landscape with earthen reds or dark tans.

But most homes in Farmers Branch are brick, with trim or shutters painted in neutral colors. A handful are more brightly colored, such as one wood home with Kelly green trim and an upscale two-story house with one burnt orange side.

Residents Matt Burton and Robin Bernier proposed the color standards at a City Council meeting this month, presenting photos showing homes with shades they found unsightly.

Burton didn't immediately respond to a message for comment, and a telephone number for Bernier was not available.

But Bernier, who also supported the city's apartment ban, told The Dallas Morning News: "When you paint your house some fluorescent or garish color scheme, you negatively affect my [home] value."

For now, city officials plan no action.

"We're going to look into it and see what the legal ramifications are," said city spokeswoman Nicole Recker.

Farmers Branch leaders have become involved in the nationwide political debate over immigration.

The City Council approved an ordinance that would require apartment managers to verify that renters are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants before leasing to them, with a few exceptions. Landlords would have faced fines of up to $500 a day for violating the measure.

Voters endorsed the ordinance in May, but a federal judge has blocked its enforcement, saying Farmers Branch had attempted to regulate immigration in a different way than the federal government does.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; hispanics; immigrantlist; immigration; texas
Although I support private property rights, this has always been a pet peeve of mine.
1 posted on 10/11/2007 10:12:13 AM PDT by dr.zaeus
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To: dr.zaeus

I don’t think the city should rule on this, because they are setting themselves up for a lawsuit—but if subdivisions and neighborhoods want to set up HOAs (home owner associations) and determine what colors are allowed, more power to ‘em. It is quite disconcerting to be traveling through a nice neighborhood and come upon a house painted in bright neon colors—personally, we wouldn’t look for a home in that neighborhood because we’d be worried about the neighbors being as loud and rowdy as their housepaint! ;-)


2 posted on 10/11/2007 10:17:20 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: dr.zaeus

3 posted on 10/11/2007 10:20:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: dr.zaeus
Something like this?


4 posted on 10/11/2007 10:22:18 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: dr.zaeus

This is really easy. These people are illegal criminals. They have no rights.


5 posted on 10/11/2007 10:22:27 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: dr.zaeus
"We all know who paints their homes tropical colors."

This is said, mind you, by a woman who doesn't approve of profiling.

6 posted on 10/11/2007 10:25:10 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: dr.zaeus
Hispanics see red over proposal

Wouldn't they see, "rojo"?

7 posted on 10/11/2007 10:25:53 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: dr.zaeus

“Hispanic leaders say it’s yet another effort to target Latinos in the city.”

Now who’s promoting racial stereotypes?


8 posted on 10/11/2007 10:26:22 AM PDT by Spok
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To: dr.zaeus

By their reasoning it could be argued that people who paint their houses bizarre colors are the racists as this tends to drive away whites.


9 posted on 10/11/2007 10:27:48 AM PDT by Hacklehead (I'm not here to make friends.)
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To: dr.zaeus

If you don’t like my choice of color for MY home, then BUY it and paint it whatever color you wish. Otherwise, just don’t look at it.

Attitudes like what you appear to be espousing are what lead to bylaws where I have to apply for permission from the town to cut down MY trees on MY property. I WASTED 4 months this summer waiting for the township to approve my app to remove trees that were threatening both my house AND my neighbor’s. Then the tree police gave me grief for taking so long to apply!

I lost my place in line for the sawmill AND the roofer because the town took so long to finally inspect my trees.

Now I sit here with a yard full of 11 foot logs, and a leaking roof because someone decided that they didn’t like property owners dealing with their own property.

Oh, I have to apply for a permit from the town to replace my roof, too.

Unintended consequences is the term, FRiend. Be careful what you wish for, as you just might get it in the end...


10 posted on 10/11/2007 10:28:05 AM PDT by Don W (I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You’re right! I missed that little slip when I read the article.


11 posted on 10/11/2007 10:28:17 AM PDT by dr.zaeus
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To: dr.zaeus
This one is just lovely...


12 posted on 10/11/2007 10:29:48 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: dr.zaeus

Clown Houses should all be painted the same color.....


13 posted on 10/11/2007 10:30:50 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: dr.zaeus

There was a huge controversy in San Antonio several years ago when Sandra Cisneros painted her house purple. How’d you like to live next door to one of those? What these people are saying is, “We don’t give a damn how we relate to our pinche gringo neighbors. They have to adjust to us, we don’t have to adjust to them.” See my tagline.


14 posted on 10/11/2007 10:31:02 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

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15 posted on 10/11/2007 10:34:29 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: TLI

I don’t know, I kinda’like it... it’s better than the old people that look like they were dressed by 5 year olds with “muted color perception”.


16 posted on 10/11/2007 10:35:10 AM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: TLI

Oh BARF!


17 posted on 10/11/2007 10:38:28 AM PDT by rottndog (This Tagline currently closed for maintenance and rehabilitation.)
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To: dr.zaeus
"We all know who paints their homes tropical colors." ********
18 posted on 10/11/2007 10:42:34 AM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: Don W
On the other hand, we have immigrant home owners building tin lean-to's for their relatives to live in and slaughtering chickens & cooking pigs in their backyard here in the SF bay area.

That watching what you hope for thing works two ways. There has to be some middle ground

19 posted on 10/11/2007 10:43:47 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: TLI

It looks like a McDonald’s.

But that’s their choice. If they think they can find a buyer when they want to sell it, they better hope their property is zoned for retail/residential.


20 posted on 10/11/2007 10:46:37 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: dr.zaeus

Why don’t we just pass a law officially stating that Hispanics are above the law. They can drive drunk, be in the country illegally, use fake documents, whatever they want to do. Everyone else may have to obey the law, but they simply do not. That’s what “Hispanic groups” want, advocate and insist upon, and what Hispanderers are eager to grant them. Might as well just get it over with.


21 posted on 10/11/2007 10:47:45 AM PDT by Nea Wood (I'm not a bad Christian because I refuse to join you in giving other people's stuff away.)
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To: dr.zaeus

” said Elizabeth Villafranca, whose family owns a Mexican restaurant in Farmers Branch. “We all know who paints their homes tropical colors.”

If by “tropical” she means the color of those big ugly parrots she could be correct. Bright red,yellow, and blue.


22 posted on 10/11/2007 10:53:24 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Travis McGee

BUMP


23 posted on 10/11/2007 10:57:19 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: TLI

Yeah!


24 posted on 10/11/2007 10:57:57 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Nea Wood

“Why don’t we just pass a law officially stating that Hispanics are above the law. They can drive drunk, be in the country illegally, use fake documents, whatever they want to do. Everyone else may have to obey the law, but they simply do not. That’s what “Hispanic groups” want, advocate and insist upon”

EXACTLY!


25 posted on 10/11/2007 11:01:45 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Don W

The question is, were those rules in place when you bought your home? If so, then you had the choice not to buy there.


26 posted on 10/11/2007 11:02:10 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: dr.zaeus

So-called “Hispanic groups” want:

1. A set of laws that apply to them, and a different set for native born and legal immigrants.

2. They get to do, act, and whatever as much as they damn well please and anyone that disagrees with them is “racist”, “xenophobic”, “mean”, and “not open to multiculturalism and diversity”.

3. They get to take over wherever they please and the hell with everyone else.

4. They will get in everyone’s face, “protest”, “strike”, stamp there feet, hold their breath until they turn blue, turn out en masse with their non-US flags, “boycott” and in general make pains of themselves until they get their way like the spoiled brats they are.

5. They have no intention of learning English or remotely integrating into American culture like the millions of L-E-G-A-L immigrants did 100-some years ago or like L-E-G-A-L immigrants do today that are proud of the USA and proud to become A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N-S.

6. They want to make the USA into Mexico North by any way or means available.

If they don’t like the rules here, they should leave. The USA is not Mexico or wherever. Not yet, anyway.


27 posted on 10/11/2007 11:11:34 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: TLI
We have one in town which really stands out like a sore thumb - mustard yellow with purple trim (and it's a rental). I think three families live in this small house. There are cars on the (what used to be a) lawn, and trash everywhere.

The neighbors aren't happy, and many of those neighbors are (legal) Mexican-Americans.

28 posted on 10/11/2007 11:16:10 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: MEGoody

My home predates the township. I bought the place after living in it for 4 years as a renter.

There are so many petty little bylaws here it would blow your mind. There is even a per faucet fee for replacing existing plumbing!

Needless to say, many folk ignore most of these laws, but a $3000 fine for not asking permission to cut my own trees is ridiculous no matter when it was passed.


29 posted on 10/11/2007 11:16:47 AM PDT by Don W (I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.)
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To: Don W
If you don’t like my choice of color for MY home, then BUY it and paint it whatever color you wish. Otherwise, just don’t look at it.

I'm not fond of illegal colonization, but if they are here legally, I don't care what color they paint their home. In fact, I rather like the tropical colors to break up the monotony of uniformity.

I, for instance, have encouraged clover growth in my lawn to the extent that the grass is almost gone. One neighbor (a liberal busybody) thinks it's terrible because it might send seed into his uniform lawn for which he spends a small fortune fertilizing, watering and constantly mowing.

Another neighbor loves it because it stays greener, needs cutting half as often and requires no fertilizer and watering. He's asked for some starter clumps for his yard this fall. As I told him, it is great to live in a 1970's neighborhood built before the lawn nazis took over.

Your story is, I'm afraid, all too typical of what happens when the lawn nazis and local nannies take over neighborhoods.

30 posted on 10/11/2007 11:58:29 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Don W

Where do you live?


31 posted on 10/11/2007 12:03:06 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: rottndog

The ghettoization of a neighborhood.


32 posted on 10/11/2007 12:06:02 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

“So-called “Hispanic groups” want:

1. A set of laws that apply to them, and a different set for native born and legal immigrants.

2. They get to do, act, and whatever as much as they damn well please and anyone that disagrees with them is “racist”, “xenophobic”, “mean”, and “not open to multiculturalism and diversity”.

3. They get to take over wherever they please and the hell with everyone else.

4. They will get in everyone’s face, “protest”, “strike”, stamp there feet, hold their breath until they turn blue, turn out en masse with their non-US flags, “boycott” and in general make pains of themselves until they get their way like the spoiled brats they are.

5. They have no intention of learning English or remotely integrating into American culture like the millions of L-E-G-A-L immigrants did 100-some years ago or like L-E-G-A-L immigrants do today that are proud of the USA and proud to become A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N-S.

6. They want to make the USA into Mexico North by any way or means available.”

You nailed it!


33 posted on 10/11/2007 12:08:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

It happens in good neighborhoods too...

I used to drive through a neighborhood in Huntington Beach on my way to work....very nice houses....some idiot painted his house the ugliest s#!t brown I have ever seen. Sticks out...well....like a pile of s#!t. His neighbors had to be pissed.


34 posted on 10/11/2007 12:09:41 PM PDT by rottndog (This Tagline currently closed for maintenance and rehabilitation.)
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To: rottndog

“I used to drive through a neighborhood in Huntington Beach on my way to work....very nice houses....some idiot painted his house the ugliest s#!t brown I have ever seen. Sticks out...well....like a pile of s#!t. His neighbors had to be pissed.”

A house like that can murder property values!


35 posted on 10/11/2007 12:14:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: dr.zaeus
On my last trip to San Diego, I took a path through part of La Mesa on the way to my mom's new house. There were businesses along the side of the road with paint jobs that looked just like the streets of Tijuana.

I think this falls in the same category as typical zoning regulations. Some regulations are create to protect property rights. If your next door neighbor chooses a paint scheme that looks like a circus, it will definitely have an impact on your property value...likely a negative impact. The same applies to leaving junk cars on the front lawn, lawns overgrown with weeds or covered with garbage.

36 posted on 10/11/2007 12:16:53 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: dr.zaeus
"I believe controlling the color you paint your house is basically profiling the Hispanic community," said Elizabeth Villafranca, whose family owns a Mexican restaurant in Farmers Branch. "We all know who paints their homes tropical colors."

Sounds like Elizabeth is making fun of Black folks.


37 posted on 10/11/2007 1:12:44 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: dr.zaeus
All that talk about "assimilating" is just BS..

sw

38 posted on 10/11/2007 1:54:39 PM PDT by spectre (spectre's wife (Susan Estrich, "Hillary sucks all the oxygen out of the room".)
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To: dr.zaeus

Its quite possible that the latinos are acting in a racially charged manner that itself needs investigation.


39 posted on 10/12/2007 7:08:38 AM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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