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Ann Coulter Shocks Cable TV Show, Declaring 'Jews Need to Be Perfected by Becoming Christians'
FOX ^ | 10/11/07 | Unknown

Posted on 10/11/2007 10:36:00 AM PDT by Froufrou

Slash-and-burn columnist Ann Coulter shocked a cable TV talk-show audience Monday when she declared that Jews need to be "perfected" by becoming Christians, and that America would be better off if everyone were Christian.

Coulter made the remarkable statements during an often heated appearance to promote her new book on advertising guru Danny Deutsch's CNBC show "The Big Idea."

In response to a question from Deutsch asking Coulter if "it would be better if we were all Christian," the controversial columnist responded: "Yes."

"We should all be Christian?" Deutsch repeated.

"Yes," Coulter responded, asking Deutsch, who is Jewish, if he would like to "come to church with me."

Deutsch, pressing Coulter further, asked, "We should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians?" She responded: "Yeah."

Coulter deflected Deutsch's assertion that her comments were anti-Semitic, matter-of-factly telling the show's obviously upset host, "That is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews."

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Oh no, she didn't!
1 posted on 10/11/2007 10:36:08 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

So stating Christian doctrine is now shocking? That says more about our society than it does about Ann.


2 posted on 10/11/2007 10:40:06 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: Froufrou

That headline is an outright lie, and someone at Fox owes Ann an apology.


3 posted on 10/11/2007 10:42:20 AM PDT by lapster
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To: dblshot

Is she dating Andrew Stein to save him?


4 posted on 10/11/2007 10:42:47 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Froufrou

I do not disagree with her, but she could have been a little more circumspect...........


5 posted on 10/11/2007 10:43:10 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Froufrou
Ordinarily Christians are supposed to keep all of this stuff secret so that non-Christians are not offended by their presence or their beliefs.(/sarc).

Deutsch's response to Coulter's statements clearly indicates he doesn't know all that many Christians ~ if any.

I know a Jews for Jesus fellow (former rabbi in fact) who could have this Deutsch guy jumping and hollering in about 10 seconds.

6 posted on 10/11/2007 10:43:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Froufrou

‘Jews Need to be Perfected by Becoming Christians’
the words are in quotes, meaning that she said the words. This is not true. She agreed with an equivalent statement, but didn’t say those words.
No matter. She has opened herself to criticism and will have to take the consequences of her words. It’s getting harder and harder to justify her rantings.


7 posted on 10/11/2007 10:43:26 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Froufrou

As a Jew, who has come to know the King of the Jews, I say she’s exactly right.


8 posted on 10/11/2007 10:43:38 AM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: Froufrou

She’s right. If it upsets you, take it up with Jesus Christ. He said it first.

If you don’t BELIEVE in Jesus Christ, than you should not be upset at what one of his followers says you need to do, as it is of no consequence.

But if the Bible is correct, and Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died for our sins, the message is clear — Accept Jesus Christ.

Only God decides who gets into heaven, don’t get me wrong. And I’m only repeating what I believe God said through his word, and you can certainly ignore that as well.

But it would be absurd, and a moral crime, for a Christian to NOT tell an unbeliever about the need for Christ when asked.

And yes, if we were all true Christians, the world WOULD be a much better place. There would still be sin in the world, but everybody would be striving to do good.

Of course, everybody wouldn’t be Christian. It is destined that many will reject the message.

People sure do get upset though when people who have firm beliefs assert the obvious meaning of those beliefs.


9 posted on 10/11/2007 10:43:47 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Froufrou
Every time I think that this woman couldn't possibly say something more outrageous she tops herself.

But then, since she has advocated invading the entire Moslem world and forcing them to convert, why should her opinions on Jews be any different?

She reminds me of a political version of Brittany Spears. A train wreck happening whenever she opens her mouth.

10 posted on 10/11/2007 10:44:05 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
?

You're going to have to justify yourself theologically in terming what she said a "rant", and I don't think you can do it.

11 posted on 10/11/2007 10:45:18 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Petronski

She’s on a roll..


12 posted on 10/11/2007 10:46:00 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Froufrou

So the question is, is the criticism of her for saying what seems to be an obvious statement for a Christian to make,

really driven by people upset about what she said about Fred Thompson?

Is Ann Coulter going to be thrown under the bus to keep up the illusion?


13 posted on 10/11/2007 10:46:10 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

“and will have to take the consequences of her words. It’s getting harder and harder to justify her rantings.”

What should she have said?

The Messiah has always been sought by Jews. They just need to realize he has already arrived..


14 posted on 10/11/2007 10:46:37 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious. Orwell)
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To: muawiyah
I know a Jews for Jesus fellow (former rabbi in fact) who could have this Deutsch guy jumping and hollering in about 10 seconds.

Many people, Christians and Jews alike, do not realize that you can be BOTH a CHRISTIAN AND A JEW!..........Becoming Christian does not make you not Jewish anymore! You still fulfill all the Jewish traditions and religious rites and are completely free to do whatever your requirements are..............

15 posted on 10/11/2007 10:46:55 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Froufrou

Coulter is going to catch Hell for saying so, but her statements are pretty basic stuff.


16 posted on 10/11/2007 10:47:02 AM PDT by gridlock (C'mon people now / Smile on your Brother / Everybody get together / Try to love one anoth-kaBOOM!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"DITTO"
17 posted on 10/11/2007 10:47:55 AM PDT by Right_Rev ("We need to get back to winning arguments by our ideas, not our ability to call people names.")
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To: Nachum
A train wreck happening whenever she opens her mouth.

What did she say that was bad?..............

18 posted on 10/11/2007 10:48:26 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Froufrou

I stated on another thread that few of us warned freepers that Anne Coulter is an “attention *****” and she really does go over the top on many issues. This idiotic remark by her, even if it is a joke, is stupid beyond belief, and smart conservatives should not come to her defense. Let her be marginalized, the Republicans and Conservatives do not need her stupid over the top rhetoric during the next 12 months of the Presidential elections campaign.


19 posted on 10/11/2007 10:48:43 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Froufrou

I am neither Christian or Jew and I see nothing wrong with Ann’s statement. She is merely stating what she believes to be true. I will say this much: If jews would stop voting left, and I can’t understand why they do, they would be a lot better off. The Democrats do NOT have the jews best interest at heart(or any interest except for getting their vote).


20 posted on 10/11/2007 10:48:53 AM PDT by calex59
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Get some help.


21 posted on 10/11/2007 10:49:03 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: Froufrou
Why does she even go on the Danny Deutsch show. He is a nobody liberal. I think she just loves to see him cringe when his world steps out of the realm of political correctness.
22 posted on 10/11/2007 10:49:34 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Froufrou

As a Jew, I disagree with the substance of that statement, whether she actually uttered those exact words or not. No one is going to convince me otherwise under any circumstances, so please don’t waste my time or yours by trying to get me to change my mind.

As an American and a free person, I defend her right to say what wants to.

As a conservative American, I wish that she would occasionally engage her brain before she wags her tongue. Regardless of how much she may believe what she says is true (about nearly any issue), it seems to me that most of the time all she does is give the Leftist media and politicians a tool with which to bash conservatives and Republicans. In short, I think that her rash statements hurt the causes that she supports and in which she believes.


23 posted on 10/11/2007 10:52:15 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Froufrou
In an era of greater intellectual clarity and courage, Ann's discourse would have been considered evangelization.
24 posted on 10/11/2007 10:52:44 AM PDT by jobim
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To: Froufrou

It’s amazing how powerful words are.


25 posted on 10/11/2007 10:52:58 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: jveritas
You will have to tell just about all of us what part was idiotic or a joke?

And make sure you are responding to what SHE SAID, not what Deutsch said, or what the headline writer said.

If you had ever bothered to find out you'd already know that this is all pretty much what's said every Sunday in every Christian church on Earth ~ even the ones at the fringe. (an exception may be the Episcopals ~ they're deep into Jesus Denial these days so maybe they don't talk about "going into all the world" and "teaching the gospels".)

26 posted on 10/11/2007 10:53:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Froufrou

This is about the 5th Ann thread today and like most is shockingly non-compliant with the rules.


27 posted on 10/11/2007 10:53:51 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: calex59
I will say this much: If jews would stop voting left, and I can’t understand why they do, they would be a lot better off. The Democrats do NOT have the jews best interest at heart(or any interest except for getting their vote).

Yes, but the more that she and people like her make statements like this, the more determined the Leftist Jews will be to stay right where they are. People like this scare them, and the Dems capitalize on it constantly. I agree with her most of the time (not this time), but sometimes she should learn the virtues of a well-timed STFU.

28 posted on 10/11/2007 10:55:49 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Red Badger
I do not disagree with her, but she could have been a little more circumspect...........

How?

29 posted on 10/11/2007 10:56:10 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Froufrou

The title in quotes doesn’t quite match what she appears to have said. I know Christians think Jews should become Christian. That doesn’t bother me, because I know what G-d told me to do, which He explains loud and clear in the Torah. Perhaps it is the history of forced conversions and mass murder which is the threatening undertone to the sentiment.

But there is a big difference between words and actions.


30 posted on 10/11/2007 10:56:48 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: All

Secretly, she was hoping to be thrown over his shoulders. :)


31 posted on 10/11/2007 10:58:13 AM PDT by Right_Rev ("We need to get back to winning arguments by our ideas, not our ability to call people names.")
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To: dblshot
So stating Christian doctrine is now shocking?

I am amazed how easily self described non-Christians can be offended by essential Christian doctrine.

Whats it to them since they've chosen not to believe? And why do many become infuriated because there are those that choose to believe?

32 posted on 10/11/2007 10:58:25 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Ancesthntr

Replace your “Jew” with my “non-believer” and your post reflects my thoughts perfectly.

Guess it sells her books though. That’s what she cares about.


33 posted on 10/11/2007 10:59:00 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: jveritas
I stated on another thread that few of us warned freepers that Anne Coulter is an “attention *****” and she really does go over the top on many issues. This idiotic remark by her, even if it is a joke, is stupid beyond belief, and smart conservatives should not come to her defense. Let her be marginalized, the Republicans and Conservatives do not need her stupid over the top rhetoric during the next 12 months of the Presidential elections campaign.

You are one of the Freepers I most respect, and I even agree with you that Ann can be an attention whore, but I disagree with you on this one. She's stating simple Biblical Christian doctrine as she sees it, and I agree with her. As another poster said, if it's true, there's no reason not to say it. And if it's not true, her words are of no consequence, so why get riled up by them?

34 posted on 10/11/2007 10:59:18 AM PDT by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: Red Badger
What did she say that was bad?..............

She is entitled to her common Christian theology, but during an election year and a war on terror, what she sad was bad. Instead of attacking Henry Waxman, Hillary's money laundering, the Fairness Doctrine, the military haters, and Arab threats on Rudi Guiliani's life, this is another bad distraction. The left is jumping on everything as an excuse to push their agenda.

Having said that, it will give great fodder for the drive-by media to skewer anything that she says, and by proxy what the conservative movement says.

35 posted on 10/11/2007 10:59:19 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Ancesthntr
Oh come on...Jews say such things as Jesus is not the Messiah or that he “fooled em” and that does not cause raised eye brows among Christians who expect Jews to have such views. Why are Coulter’s comments more offensive?
36 posted on 10/11/2007 11:00:04 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Froufrou

I can’t help but laugh at this one. Of course, leftwingnuts will go berzerk tonight over it, thereby giving her and her new book plenty of free advertising.

Don’t think much of this weeks Coulter column, but I do admire the self employed that are as creative in sales as she clearly is.


37 posted on 10/11/2007 11:01:07 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: dblshot

Amen, Bro.

Christ said: John 14:6 “I am the way, the truth and the life; no man cometh to the Father except by me.”

The Apostle Paul said: Acts 4:12 “Neither is there salvation in any other (than Jesus Christ) for there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.”

I see no exception clause for Jewish people or anyone else.


38 posted on 10/11/2007 11:01:11 AM PDT by Tucker39 (God bless the U.S.A.)
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To: Froufrou

She sounds like someone desperate to have something more shocking to say than “phony soldiers”.

As a Christian, I understand what she was trying to say but in general conversation you don’t say that because of the outrage it generates. This mirrors her previous comment about converting Muslims.

God’s ways are not man’s ways and there are things that only make sense from a Christian perspective but are sure to be rejected by those who do not share that perspective. I think Ann is smart enough to understand that but is making millions by being outrageous so she doesn’t mind who she insults while being outrageous.


39 posted on 10/11/2007 11:02:04 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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To: Tucker39

You know the rules: where is the picture?


40 posted on 10/11/2007 11:02:10 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
She has opened herself to criticism and will have to take the consequences of her words.

Oh my, I'll bet she's shaking in her shoes! not!

41 posted on 10/11/2007 11:02:20 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
She has opened herself to criticism and will have to take the consequences of her words.

Oh my, I'll bet she's shaking in her shoes! not!

42 posted on 10/11/2007 11:02:30 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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I don’t see the problem. Maybe the perfected Jew part needs to go, but all Jews should become Christian, along with everyone else, and this country would be better off, so would the rest of the world. We just don’t need any governments trying to do it, or any churches, for that matter. Leave it up to Christ. Ann is on the right track.


43 posted on 10/11/2007 11:03:57 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Froufrou

Woohoo! Man, they’ll roast her alive for this one!

Way to go, Miss Coulter!


44 posted on 10/11/2007 11:04:05 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: calex59

“....If jews would stop voting left, and I can’t understand why they do, they would be a lot better off. The Democrats do NOT have the jews best interest at heart(or any interest except for getting their vote).”

I could not agree more. And that particular Jewish stanch continues to fascinate me.


45 posted on 10/11/2007 11:04:12 AM PDT by pilipo
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To: Froufrou

I think the more accurate term for Jewish Christians is “completed”.

Becoming a Christian, for a Jew, does not mean jettisoning their Jewish tradition. If anything, it should become even more meaningful, as Jesus fulfills the Messianic prophecies in the Old Testament.

The book of Matthew and the letters of Paul (who was a Pharisee) are excellent resources in terms of proof of who Jesus is.


46 posted on 10/11/2007 11:04:52 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

“She...will have to take the consequences of her words.”

Don’t you mean the consequences of somebody else not being able to handle the truth? Christ was a Jew. Christ was the Messiah. Does that mean Christ was anti-semitic? Now there’s an absurdity for you.


47 posted on 10/11/2007 11:05:20 AM PDT by beelzepug ("One should never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.")
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To: Froufrou

Media Matters is the instigator for this story.


48 posted on 10/11/2007 11:05:29 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Red Badger
"That is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews."

That is incorrect. Gentiles have been grafted into the tree of judaism. Rom 11:17 I do not condsider myself a perfected jew. Only Jesus was that.

49 posted on 10/11/2007 11:05:37 AM PDT by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: xjcsa
if it's true, there's no reason not to say it

You go around telling people, "You have B.O.", "You're a fat slob", "I can tell that's a toupee", etc?

You must get beaten up a lot....

50 posted on 10/11/2007 11:05:45 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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