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1 in 5 Pregnancies Worldwide Ends in Abortion, Study Says
FOX ^ | 10/12/07 | Unknown

Posted on 10/12/2007 9:06:25 AM PDT by Froufrou

One in five pregnancies worldwide and one in three pregnancies in Europe ends in abortion, according to a new study published in a special female-focused issue of the Lancet.

The study also found that, on average, 90 percent of women worldwide will have an abortion before the age of 45, based on 2003 data. However, many women will have had multiple abortions and many none at all to come to this average.

Although the statistics may seem startling, worldwide rates of induced abortion actually fell 17 percent from 46 million to 42 million between 1995 and 2003.

Unsafe abortion has not declined worldwide, however, and is concentrated in developing countries, according to a study conducted by Dr. Gilda Sedgh of the Guttmacher Institute in New York, Dr. Iqbal Shah of World Health Organization in Switzerland and colleagues.

The researchers calculated worldwide and regional incidences of safe abortions using reports from national reporting systems, nationally representative surveys and published studies. Figures for unsafe abortion were estimated from hospital data, survey and other published studies.

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1 posted on 10/12/2007 9:06:27 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

Incredible!


2 posted on 10/12/2007 9:08:38 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Froufrou

This is probably the only topic I could go into an apopletic fit of rage over. All those poor children never even had a damn chance. How many scientists, scholars, priests, prophets, artists and writers have we unknowingly lost?


3 posted on 10/12/2007 9:09:59 AM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Fred/Duncan - dream team))
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To: Froufrou
1 in 5 Pregnancies Worldwide Ends in Abortion, Study Says

90 percent of women worldwide will have an abortion before the age of 45

Well, which is it?

1 in 5

or

9 in 10?

4 posted on 10/12/2007 9:11:41 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; TitansAFC; 230FMJ; 49th; 50mm; 69ConvertibleFirebird; Aleighanne; ...

The Lancet is about like the JAMA so I’m leaning toward the study having some accuracy to it.


5 posted on 10/12/2007 9:12:01 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

And I read somewhere that something like 91% of them are due to non life threatening reasons....can’t afford, don’t wan’t, too young...etc.


6 posted on 10/12/2007 9:12:45 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: jdm

Both can be true.


7 posted on 10/12/2007 9:13:23 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: Froufrou

And I read somewhere that something like 91% of them are due to non life threatening reasons....can’t afford, don’t wan’t, too young...etc.


8 posted on 10/12/2007 9:13:29 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Froufrou

“90 percent of women worldwide will have an abortion before the age of 45”

I don’t believe that statistic.


9 posted on 10/12/2007 9:14:01 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: EarthBound; jdm

What is the most shameless is that it is legal! How can any ‘law’ betray a woman and her child like this? Moral law should not be circumvented.

As jdm points out, there’s fuzzy math here. I think they are inferring that 10% of the women who abort are over age 45!


10 posted on 10/12/2007 9:15:09 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

1 in 3 pregnancies ending in abortion in Europe? I thought they were supposed to have lower rates than ours.

Very sad.

90% of women by the time they are 45 is not even statistics. “If each woman had just one aborion...” It’s just damn lies.

Mrs VS


11 posted on 10/12/2007 9:17:18 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Froufrou

In what way are the statistics they state “Fuzzy?”


12 posted on 10/12/2007 9:18:12 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: Lorianne

I wonder if they’ve counted multiple abortions by the same woman in this.....doesn’t seem like that number is right to me, either.
Is FR slow....or is it MY computer


13 posted on 10/12/2007 9:20:41 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: trumandogz; jdm; Lorianne; heartland

See #4. I did not mean ‘fuzzy’ as in ‘warm and!’


14 posted on 10/12/2007 9:27:01 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: heartwood; Lorraine
The study also found that, on average, 90 percent of women worldwide will have an abortion before the age of 45, based on 2003 data. However, many women will have had multiple abortions and many none at all to come to this average.

The key is in the second sentence. Then the way I see it there are so many outliers ("serial aborters") that this 90% figure is virtually useless. I would rather they came up with a figure to answer the questions: "What percentage of women will never have an abortion in their lifetime?", "What percentage of women will have 1 and only 1 abortion in their lifetime?", "2 and only 2" and etc. That would be more useful.

15 posted on 10/12/2007 9:29:05 AM PDT by NYCynic
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To: EarthBound

I have always been against abortion. I have also always been pro-choice. Against abortion comes first, pro-choice second. That pisses a lot of Freepers off and some don’t understand that stance but that’s the way it is.

I also fully support anything to prevent abortions from happening except making them blanketly illegal across the board. For example I fully support requiring an ultrasound be performed and the mother SEE the baby before an abortion (I thought that was the best idea ever).

That being said, this article didn’t put me into a rage, but it did give me great sadness.

Later in the article I find that abortion rates were about the same whether they were legal or illegal. This filled me with even greater sadness because obviously the legality isn’t what makes a mother choose to abort her pregnancy.

It’s how children anymore are seen as a burden instead of a blessing. How schools, media, and yes even sometimes religious organization don’t consider a child a child until it is actually born (until then it’s called a fetus).

I want to say more but I can’t form the words right now unfortunately.


16 posted on 10/12/2007 9:31:27 AM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: NYCynic

Your questions would make too many feel uncomfortable, though.

Can’t have anyone feeling uncomfortable.

Remember, they are victims, now.

/sarc


17 posted on 10/12/2007 9:33:09 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Domandred
Later in the article I find that abortion rates were about the same whether they were legal or illegal.

I find this extremely unlikely.

pro-choice second

Uh-huh, what choice did the kid have?

18 posted on 10/12/2007 9:35:54 AM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Fred/Duncan - dream team))
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To: Domandred

In one sense God is ‘pro-Choice’. He gave us free will. He could have made everyone think and act only in ways pleasing to him ... but he didn’t.

Is that what you mean?


19 posted on 10/12/2007 9:41:35 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
In one sense God is ‘pro-Choice’. He gave us free will. He could have made everyone think and act only in ways pleasing to him ... but he didn’t.

Is that what you mean?

Yes Lorianne that is exactly what I mean.

20 posted on 10/12/2007 9:44:57 AM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Froufrou

With all the available birth control what gives ?


21 posted on 10/12/2007 10:06:24 AM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: jdm
"1 in 5 Pregnancies Worldwide Ends in Abortion, Study Says

90 percent of women worldwide will have an abortion before the age of 45"


Well, which is it?

1 in 5

or

9 in 10?

It's really confusing, because those are two completely different statistics.

Presume for the moment that both are true (just for the sake of argument). That would mean 9 in 10 women are responsible for 1 in 5 births, which means the remaining 1 in 10 women have a lot of children.

Don't know if I believe that, but it's possible. The women most likely to have abortions are also the least likely to have large families - does it therefore follow that the women least likely to have an abortion are the most likely to have large families?

22 posted on 10/12/2007 10:10:17 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: jdm

They don’t care, as long as it sounds big enough to say, “Hell, everybody does it!”


23 posted on 10/12/2007 11:00:40 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Froufrou
90 percent of women worldwide will have an abortion before the age of 45

The world is, indeed, sliding toward destruction.

24 posted on 10/12/2007 11:08:30 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Domandred

So you’d classify yourself as anti-abortion, but not pro-life?


25 posted on 10/12/2007 11:10:10 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Domandred

Pro-choice = Pro-murder. You may not like the terminology but that’s the truth.

Let’s just have a look shall we at what the Holman Illustrated Bible Dictionary has to say about the heinous, murderous practice of abortion.

“ABORTION

The Bible places a high value on all human life, including that of the unborn. Biblical teaching declares that life is a sacred, God-given gift (Gen. 1:26-27; 2:7; Deut. 30:15-19; Job 1:21; Ps. 8:5; 1 Cor. 15:26), especially the life of children (Ps. 127:3-5; Luke 18:15-16), and condemns those who take it away (Exod. 20:13; 2 Kings 1:13; Amos 1:13-14). The development of unborn life is controlled by God (Job 31:15; Ps. 139:13-16; Eccles. 11:5; Isa. 44:2; 46:3; 49:5; Jer. 1:5; Luke 1:15; Gal. 1:15). The personhood of the fetus is clearly taught in Exod. 21:22 where the unborn is called a “child” (yeled) rather than a “fetus” (nephel or golem). Hos. 9:11 implies that life begins at conception, while Luke 1:41,44 recognizes the consciousness of an unborn child.

The high value placed on unborn human life in the Bible is consistent with the Mosaic law regarding negligent miscarriage (Exod. 21:22-25). This law can be compared to similar statutes in the Code of Hammurabi (nos. 209-214) in which the punishment exacted for acts of negligence that resulted in a woman’s miscarriage was dependent on the legal or social status of the mother, not the personhood (or supposed lack thereof) of her unborn child. Middle Assyrian law no. 53 (12th century b.c.) made a self-induced miscarriage (an abortion) a capital offense.”

God’s word from the Holy Bible is the highest and final authority on any moral argument such as this. Murder by definition is the taking of an innocent human life. Abortion is the taking of an innocent human life. Therefore abortion IS murder which is a violation of the 6th Commandment (Exodus 20:13).

People have to get off the fence and decide whose side they are on - either God’s side and pro-life or Satan’s side and pro-murder (pro-choice).


26 posted on 10/12/2007 11:16:37 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: Froufrou
worldwide rates of induced abortion actually fell 17 percent from 46 million to 42 million between 1995 and 2003

Once again, either this reporter is either mathematically illiterate or too lazy to take out a calculator and do a simple division. A 4 million drop is about a 9% drop, not 17%. I vote for both lazy and illiterate.

27 posted on 10/12/2007 11:17:50 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: MEGoody; sappy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1910338/posts

pinging sappy to megoody and vice versa.


28 posted on 10/12/2007 11:23:05 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: NYCynic

Are they considering “spontaneous abortion”? My mother had what was considered a “spontaneous abortion”, otherwise known as a miscarriage.


29 posted on 10/12/2007 11:30:45 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Domandred

“I have always been against abortion. I have also always been pro-choice. Against abortion comes first, pro-choice second.”

I have always been against the Death Penalty. I have also always been pro Death Penalty. Against the Death Penalty comes first, Pro Death Penalty second.

Now, does that make sense?


30 posted on 10/12/2007 11:34:24 AM PDT by sappy
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To: petitfour

I could believe the 90% number in that case. Most women have more than one child and miscarriage is not that uncommon.


31 posted on 10/12/2007 11:56:23 AM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: sappy

No it doesn’t make sense when worded like that. However it does make sense when I say that I am pro-death penalty, I don’t think we use it enough, nor fast enough. John Couey and Joseph Duncan for example should be sucking dirt instead of air. I am also pro-choice in that I think it should be up to each State to decide if their state has a death penalty provision or not.

I am against the SCOTUS decision on Roe V Wade for the same reason. I think Roe V Wade should be overturned and rolled back to each individual State deciding on the matter. That decision was completely wrong Constitutionally. If it were overturned and all 50 States made all forms of abortion illegal so be it. I would support that decision, but I would not personally vote that way if it came back to the States.

I am against the act of abortion, but I do not believe that it should be made illegal. If I knew someone that was thinking about having an abortion I counsel against having one. I would offer to help with adoption proceedings. I would even offer to help after the child was born if she didn’t adopt. I would not support making a law that said flat out abortion is not a choice.

Part of the problem is allowing for medically necessary abortions (and nobody can tell me they don’t exist because I know first hand they do or I would no longer have my Wife nor first born due next week) at the same time as banning non-medical ones.

Now certain forms of abortion should be banned. Partial birth for example has zero place in any society. Those absolutely should be banned. If the baby is that far along it can be delivered and given up for immediate adoption. No sane doctor would have ever done this form of abortion.

I am also against abortion as a form of birth control, women who refuse to use birth control but have had multiple abortions...yes these women I consider evil in the Biblical sense. Then of course there are those that think that birth control itself is also a sin.

I will (probably) never be strictly for making abortion illegal and that’s why I say I consider myself pro-life first and pro-choice second. I could say that I am pro-life, but the problem with that is pro-life in political context also means anti-choice. I hate the term pro-choice as well because in the conservative context pro-choice also means abortion on demand for any reason, any time, any method. Neither term fits me properly.

I’m sure I already have many other replies to my original post but unless I want to address something directly this will probably be my last post in this thread. I was trying to express my sadness about the article from a slightly different point of view then the usual here at FR, not get into a giant debate on abortion.

I don’t mind explaining or expanding my views the issue, but I won’t argue or debate over it. I don’t want to change the minds of anyone here from where they already are. I already accept the FR consensus view on the matter.


32 posted on 10/12/2007 12:52:06 PM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Domandred

I should have privatley replied to you. i disagree with you, however, I do hope that you continue to put your viewpoint forward. It is sometimes hard in this forumn, but, I respect anyone who sticks their neck out when they know it’s gonna get chopped to a degree.


33 posted on 10/12/2007 2:13:31 PM PDT by sappy
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To: goodnesswins
"I wonder if they’ve counted multiple abortions by the same woman in this.....doesn’t seem like that number is right to me, either."

"The study also found that, on average, 90 percent of women worldwide will have an abortion before the age of 45, based on 2003 data. However, many women will have had multiple abortions and many none at all to come to this average."

34 posted on 10/12/2007 2:19:38 PM PDT by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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To: highball; Froufrou

You are assuming that women who have abortions never have children.

What they mean is that 90% of all women will have at least one abortion. A woman who has an abortion can follow with only more abortions or only live births or a combination of the two.

I suspect the 1 in 5 number abortion/live birth is skewed because China - with the world’s largest population - limits women (at least they used to) to one child. The majority of women in China are poor and hence abortion could be the preferred method of preventing births because it’s probably provided free and birth control is costly or non-existent. I wouldn’t be surprised if the average Chinese woman has 10 to 15 abortions versus 1 live birth over her lifetime.

If I had to guess on the abortion number in the US I’d put it at 50% of all women will have an abortion over a lifetime. This is reasonable considering the 2 million babies killed in the US each year. I’d also guess that the vast majority of US women who do kill an unborn child do it once and regret it forever.


35 posted on 10/12/2007 2:37:27 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: 50mm

“I’d also guess that the vast majority of US women who do kill an unborn child do it once and regret it forever.”

I am 100% positive that you are correct.


36 posted on 10/12/2007 2:40:55 PM PDT by Froufrou
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37 posted on 10/12/2007 3:15:19 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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Steven Mosher of Population Research International says the figures are bogus. Why? Because except in countries which have totally bureaucratized, socialized medicine (like China and much of the EU), nobody knows how many abortions are performed. Even the USA does not have a nationwide abortion reporting requirement.
38 posted on 10/12/2007 3:30:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (BS detector just went BING!)
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To: madprof98

BINGO


39 posted on 10/12/2007 3:42:43 PM PDT by Tessarie (Europe's brains immigrated to America 100 years ago.)
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To: wagglebee

Ping to Moral Absolutes


40 posted on 10/12/2007 4:11:38 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: jdm

There’s more than one pregnancy per woman. Think about it.


41 posted on 10/12/2007 4:13:51 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: highball; madprof98
It absolutely makes sense. Think of all the women in the developing world that have 15 kids each and half of them die in childhood. In the western world, women maybe get pregnant on average two or three times each. What these stats are telling us is that the europeans are aborting at a higher rate AND ALSO getting pregnant at a much lower rate. This explains why europeans(the white ones anyway) are going extinct.
42 posted on 10/12/2007 4:18:32 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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43 posted on 10/12/2007 4:22:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Domandred; Lorianne
"In one sense God is ‘pro-Choice’. He gave us free will. He could have made everyone think and act only in ways pleasing to him ... but he didn’t."
"Yes Lorianne that is exactly what I mean."

This is not accurate, though, because pro-choice doesn't actually mean "endowed with free will."

I'll illustrate what I mean.

God also made us free--- in the sense that we are not puppets or robots --- so that we could choose to commit rape, torture, and armed robbery. But nobody calls themselves "pro-choice" on rape, torture and armed robbery. You don't, do you?

I didn't think so.

In this country, "pro-choice" means "Some human beings are protected by law from being murdered, but we have decided to exclude one class of human beings from the protection of the law, so that they can be attacked with impunity....if you choose."

If it were made legal to kill some other class of human beings --- say you could shoot redheads on sight---- you wouldn't call that pro-choice, would you? I hope you'd call it (at least) anti-redhead.

44 posted on 10/12/2007 4:47:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: cdbull23

Thanks....I should have read more closely.


45 posted on 10/12/2007 5:25:20 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: Domandred
I tend to hold a very similar view to you though of course not exactly the same as the Roe V Wade issue is not relevant in Britain.

We are going to get abortion re-visted during this Parliament and no doubt it will divide many in many parties. I have to admit I am not sure where my MP stands on it but I would assume would like the limit of 24 weeks reduced which IMHO must be reduced seeing as many children and children that are not severely damaged are born and surviving at 22, 23 and 24 weeks. I know younger ones are but I have not heard of any under 21 weeks who have not got many problems.

46 posted on 10/13/2007 6:20:16 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: 50mm
Have you also heard in China that fertility drugs are available over the counter in many villages to ensure that the one pregnancy that is allowed without severe taxation is either twins or more.

Parents want more than one child but cannot afford the high taxation that results in having one or more. The other sad fact is that mainly it is girls that are aborted and there is a shortage now of marriable women and men are often seen hanging around the streets and villages looking for a partner. Many are risking all to leave China just to find a wife.

Most men want a boy to carry on the family name and traditions and if a scan is provided and it is a girl then it often aborted. This is a case when providing scans has caused more abortions not less. Elsewhere in the world the opposite is true.

A question can someone explain to me the difference between late term abortion and partial birth abortion. I have heard that the practice of partial birth abortion is not allowed in Britain but we do abort up to 24 weeks so is that not one and the same or is there a subtle difference.

47 posted on 10/13/2007 6:27:26 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: snugs
Hope you're not eating while you read this.

I believe that abortions in China are mandatory for women who have already had one child.

Partial birth abortion is a specific procedure performed on third trimester babies. The procedure involves rotating the baby in-utero to present feet first. The baby is then pulled out by the feet until the head is just visible, but still in the woman. The baby at this point is a mere 3 inches from full constitutional rights (except in Illinois, more later.) The killer then inserts scissors through the base of the skull, opens the scissors and rotates to make the opening larger. Then a canula (medical mini shop-vac) is inserted into the baby's head to suction out the brains, kill the baby and collapse the skull. The dead baby is then removed completely.

Late term and third trimester are synonymous in the US. Third trimester baby killings can alternately be done by killing and dismembering the baby in-utero. This method isn't as safe as partial birth because while the killer is dismembering the baby it's possible to damage the co-conspirator's uterus.

Cases have been documented where during the partial birth killing attempt the baby's head pops out completely before the killing. Some killers complete the killing anyway on the now breathing and crying baby. Some just say oops and place the baby on a shelf to suffer and die.

By the way, in Illinois it is legal to place on a shelf to die a baby born accidentally as a result of a partial birth killing attempt. When state lawmakers attempted to enact laws mandating post birth care of partial birth killing survivors, then State Senator Barak Hussein Obama voted no.

Dummy candidate Obama's shame

48 posted on 10/13/2007 8:19:13 AM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: Froufrou
I thought 1 in 5 pregnancies end in a miscarriage?
49 posted on 10/13/2007 8:23:59 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Domandred

I am also pro-choice in that I think it should be up to each State to decide if their state has a death penalty provision or not.<<

The Roe ruling was classic Supreme Court overreach.


50 posted on 10/13/2007 8:35:56 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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