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Are You Ready For WWIV? Author Says Fight Is Now
TheBulletin ^ | October 11, 2007 | By: Herb Denenberg, The Bulletin

Posted on 10/14/2007 9:12:34 PM PDT by PRePublic

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1 posted on 10/14/2007 9:12:38 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic

Yes.
The war is against ISLAM, period. And I fight it every day, in every way I can. I trust NO Muslim, deal with no Muslim knowingly, and reject them on every level of public interaction.
If it comes to more violent means to protect our civilization, on a personal level I am ready for that too.
My father earned 2 Silver Stars and a Bronze Star in WW2. He didn’t raise a coward.


2 posted on 10/14/2007 9:17:11 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: PRePublic

Bring it on


3 posted on 10/14/2007 9:23:34 PM PDT by wastedyears (I don't wanna grow up, help : /)
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To: PRePublic

WWIV began on 9/11


4 posted on 10/14/2007 9:25:33 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: ClearBlueSky

I hope the Islamofascists don’t manage to do anything massive enough to convince our otherwise useless Congress to declare war, but if it happens, we’ll know how to deal with traitors.


5 posted on 10/14/2007 9:25:47 PM PDT by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: doc1019

What about 1993? I guess Pearl harbor wouldn’t have counted if Japan didn’t sink any ships?


6 posted on 10/14/2007 9:29:52 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: PRePublic
"Are You Ready For WWIV? Author Says Fight Is Now"

Yes, but my fellow Americans have no will to fight and would rather distract with lots of noise about celebrities and finger pointing at other groups of Americans.

I'll have to wait until the Arabs/Persians build nuclear weapons, impoverish our Nation with extortions and eventually attack.


7 posted on 10/14/2007 9:34:37 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Eyes Unclouded

1993 was a precursor, 911 was war. The Japanese did many things against the US trying to provoke us into war … Pearl Harbor was the 911 of its day.


8 posted on 10/14/2007 9:39:59 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: ClearBlueSky
To be fair, there are a lot of "good" Muslims here in America. I have met several, and they are sincerely good people.

If you find one that is true, it is important to let them know somehow that the storm is coming, and that they will be forced to choose sides in coming days.

If their loyalty is to Islam and the mullahs, well, then they won't have a pleasant time in America. If they enjoy the wealth and freedom of America, they need to get on our side.

When the stuff hits the fan, anyone sitting on the fence will be a good target for both sides.

9 posted on 10/14/2007 9:42:29 PM PDT by Sender (Can I just post until I need glasses?)
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To: PRePublic

save


10 posted on 10/14/2007 9:49:13 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: PRePublic
" sometimes act as if they are on the other side. "

Herb: THEY'RE NOT ACTING!

"But I'm afraid Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards do not hold the same promise of responsible action as Dwight David Eisenhower did in the 1950s. "

You can say that again!

11 posted on 10/14/2007 9:55:07 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Draft John Bolton for President! He's pre-vetted by the move-ons.)
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To: doc1019

There were a lot of ‘precursors’.


12 posted on 10/14/2007 9:57:15 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: PRePublic

No they aren’t ready, they are watching American Idol, and text messaging at the mall.


13 posted on 10/14/2007 9:59:51 PM PDT by lawnguy (The wand chooses the wizard, Mr. Potter.)
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To: CJ Wolf

Just cited one … never said there were not more. ;-)


14 posted on 10/14/2007 10:05:40 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: PRePublic

Marker


15 posted on 10/14/2007 10:09:18 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: PRePublic

It is not a war if one side refuses to fight.


16 posted on 10/14/2007 10:11:34 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: lawnguy
No they aren’t ready, they are watching American Idol, and text messaging at the mall.

That's the truth, and the shame of it is that the reason they feel that way is because the "rough men" have kept the wolf from their door for so long (in American attention-span terms) that they think it's actually safe to vote Democrat. To his credit, and this is something the MSM (with their "Mission Accomplished" and "immediate withdrawal" fixations) have forgotten, President Bush told the American people as far back as September 2001 that this was going to be a "long war" of a decade or more.

17 posted on 10/14/2007 10:17:11 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: doc1019
"WWIV began on 9/11"

WWIV began in the 7th century, when Islam declared:

Ishaq:204 "‘Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man?' ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'"
Ishaq:208 "When Allah gave permission to his Apostle to fight, the second Aqaba contained conditions involving war which were not in the first act of submission. Now we bound themselves to war against all mankind for Allah and His Apostle. He promised us a reward in Paradise for faithful service. We pledged ourselves to war in complete obedience to Muhammad no matter how evil the circumstances."

18 posted on 10/14/2007 10:24:10 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ClearBlueSky
Global War on Terror Islam
19 posted on 10/14/2007 10:27:41 PM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: doc1019
WWIV began on 9/11

I do understand what you are saying here, but I believe WWIV began in 1979 with the hostages taken at the embassy in teheran. We just didn't have the wits to realize it. Of course, JC was in office when it happened. Reagan came into the presidency the hostages were freed, but the Iranians never paid a price for that act.

20 posted on 10/14/2007 10:28:54 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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To: Sender
"To be fair, there are a lot of "good" Muslims here in America. I have met several, and they are sincerely good people."

They usually are "nice people" until they blow up, or kill someone when they begin their own personal Jihad.

They all follow the same koran, and ways of the prophet Mohammad. There is no "peaceful" koran in existance, and there is only one record of Mohammad's sayings, which are considered just as "Holy" because they were inspired by Allah, as the koran (even though both came out of Mohammad's mouth).

21 posted on 10/14/2007 10:29:47 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Sender
Where is the Islamic fatwa or jihad against radical Islam and Osama Bin Laden?

There is no repudiation of radical Islam in the Muslim world at large, so there most certainly will be a WW4 between Islam and the whole non-Islamic world.

There is next to no chance that Muslims will reform Islam in a civilized direction, so IMO “It’s On!”

22 posted on 10/14/2007 10:33:55 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ClearBlueSky
The war is against ISLAM, period. And I fight it every day, in every way I can. I trust NO Muslim, deal with no Muslim knowingly, and reject them on every level of public interaction.

My sentiments, exactly.

23 posted on 10/14/2007 10:56:00 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: PRePublic

whoa whatever happened to WW 3? I think I must’ve slept during that time...


24 posted on 10/14/2007 11:01:07 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: A CA Guy; Nathan Zachary

“It’s on”, and may the best God win. Seriously. Some of them will defect to our side. Others will heed the call of jihad. We need to tell them that there will be no virgins, just death. Invite them to salvation. Not only salvation in the Biblical sense, but also in the personal sense. If they choose Islam, then so be it.


25 posted on 10/14/2007 11:05:38 PM PDT by Sender (Can I just post until I need glasses?)
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To: Sender
72 imaginary virgins when dead and all the goats you can sodomize, isn’t Islam great?
26 posted on 10/14/2007 11:12:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: PRePublic
Mark Steyn: The Ideologues Have It - Getting comfortable.

That link answers some of the problems mentioned in this editorial.

27 posted on 10/14/2007 11:22:35 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: Sender
Perhaps a modest start in this war would be canceling "diversity" visas, and next outlawing politicians from using the word, unless they are referring to the lesser mammals, fish, fowl, insects, minerals and suchlike.
28 posted on 10/14/2007 11:30:47 PM PDT by ashtanga
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To: PRePublic
World War IV: How It Started, What It Means, and Why We Have to Win

It's a long essay, but worth the read. This thread shows the virtue of posting complete essays, not excerpts. Commentary wants folks to pay for it now.

29 posted on 10/14/2007 11:45:40 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: FARS; Founding Father; DAVEY CROCKETT; LibertyRocks; milford421; CarolinaGOP

Ping.


30 posted on 10/15/2007 1:32:27 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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To: PRePublic
Unfortunately human history is really one long war with intermittent ceasefires...
31 posted on 10/15/2007 1:41:54 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: PRePublic

bookmark for later


32 posted on 10/15/2007 1:42:54 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: ClearBlueSky

I’m with you!


33 posted on 10/15/2007 2:07:11 AM PDT by sport
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To: PRePublic
World War IV refers to the ongoing war against Islamofascism

Don't forget LEFTOFASCISM. Ask Rush, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly or anyone else in the media who doesn't march in synchronous goosestep with the radical left in this nation.

34 posted on 10/15/2007 2:24:50 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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World War 4?

What about World War 3?

The Cold War was not World War 3.

World War 1 and 2 cost the lives of tens of millions, each, and the theaters covered large portions of two continents (Africa and Eurasia). They are not very comparable to the Cold War, which, while long-lasting, did not take nearly as many lives due to war, nor devastated cities and countries close to the extent that the two World Wars did.



The above is opinion, and you may have--and are free to have--another one. So don't get angry that the opinion here is that the Cold War does not deserve to be called a World War.

The war against islamofascism could become World War 3, but if it already is, then it is at the Japan just starting to invade Manchuria stage.

35 posted on 10/15/2007 2:46:37 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Sender

bump.


36 posted on 10/15/2007 2:48:14 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: PRePublic

China is the real enemy. Islam is only the first wave.

We are refusing to stand up to either. My guess is that we will be utterly destroyed.

Hell, we can’t hold our own in the war with miserable Mexico.


37 posted on 10/15/2007 2:55:58 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I am a proud anti-invasion racist!)
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To: All

The two questions were rhetorical.


38 posted on 10/15/2007 4:08:17 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: RobinOfKingston
...but the Iranians never paid a price for that act.

And that is something that has stuck in my craw for 28 years.....if storming another country's embassy and taking hostages isn't an act of war, I don't know what is.....

39 posted on 10/15/2007 4:39:17 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Thinking of voting Democrat? Wake up and smell the Socialism!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

But one of the features of the Cold War was what was called “the proxy wars”. Also there was the buildup of the nukes between the USA and what was the old Soviet Union.


40 posted on 10/15/2007 4:41:36 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: ClearBlueSky
If it comes to more violent means to protect our civilization, on a personal level I am ready for that too.

The Marines are always looking for a few good men.

41 posted on 10/15/2007 4:47:01 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
What about 1993? I guess Pearl harbor wouldn’t have counted if Japan didn’t sink any ships?

1993 is disregarded because the leadership in this country, at the time, was too corrupt and inept to fight.

42 posted on 10/15/2007 5:02:40 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: PRePublic

Our republic is hopelessly saturated with the poison of liberalism and political correctness. The poison is in the universities, the grade schools, the media, the entertainment industry, the churches and synagogues, the courts, the Congress, and the White House.

Americans who recognize the threat from Islam as such, and are willing to fight against it, are in a miniscule minority. Openly saying so will soon be a hate crime for which you must forfeit your guns.

One day the Muslim world will openly and collectively acknowledge that it IS Islam as such, which is attacking the West. Most likely it won’t happen until at least one American city is destroyed by a nuclear weapon, and our leaders unanimously decide there is nowhere on earth we can deliver appropriate retaliation.

Despair, yes. That’s how I see it. If Flight 93 was heading for the Capitol, they were wasting their time going after a congress of dhimmis.


43 posted on 10/15/2007 5:05:50 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (You can endorse the murder of 50 million unborn babies; but don't say "macaca.")
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To: doc1019

It began when Sirhan Sirhan assasinated a US Senator in 1968. Then the airline hijackings began..


44 posted on 10/15/2007 6:47:17 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: ClearBlueSky
With all due respects, this sounds very similar to those Americans who demanded that ALL Japanese-Americans in the early WWII days should be all rounded up and thrown into a camp, just because they were of Japanese descent.

Let's treat each individual-Muslim, Catholic, atheist, Baptist on their own merits or shortcomings, not as a group, OK? Just my opinion....

45 posted on 10/15/2007 7:34:46 AM PDT by China Clipper
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To: sheik yerbouty
It began when Sirhan Sirhan assasinated a US Senator in 1968. Then the airline hijackings began..

OK, I'm seeing a trend backwards in time here. If you take the long view, it began the day that mohamed first p!ssed on territory taken at the edge of a sword. This the 1,400 year war. (Or thereabouts)

46 posted on 10/15/2007 8:07:31 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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To: China Clipper

You know what? Putting yourself in the mindset of 1942-not 2007- Japanese internment made sense .It was a protective measure. Rights were TEMPORARILY abridged for the good of the nation. They didn’t know who could be trusted among the Japanese here, and we had been ATTACKED by Japan.
Bottom line- there were no Japanese ‘terrorist’ attacks on American soil during WW2. And don’t believe for a minute that there weren’t any Japanese here who would have acted against the US.
The internment worked, it protected us from internal attack. When Japan was defeated, those internment camps closed.

When the enemy is among you, and you can’t tell friend from foe, it is suicidal to trust blindly rather than ‘offend’.Would you rather offend several million Muslims in this country, or prevent more 9-11’s?
I will treat every Muslim according to their beliefs. And they- by identifying themselves as Muslim- tell me that they believe every word in the Koran INCLUDING THE WORDS THAT THREATEN MY LIFE AND MY CULTURE.
Theirs is an ENEMY IDEAOLGY. Identify with it and you are my enemy.
I believe a Marine walking down the street believes in the Marine Corp creed. I believe that a member of NAMBLA believes in sex with boys. I believe people who call themselves Klansmen hate blacks and Jews.I believe that every human can expect to be judged by the organizations and groups to which they belong. Why belong to them otherwise?
Islam is a world thug-gang that is earning it’s bloody reputation every day. I would no more consider treating a Muslim as a kindly individual than I would a member of the Bloods or the Crips.
To call oneself a Muslim is to say they believe in the Koran.
The Koran is the evil handbook of an evil belief system. You cannot believe in evil, hold it holy and defend it, and claim any sort of goodness.
Angels do not dance with Satan.


47 posted on 10/15/2007 9:48:13 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I am female, and past the age where the Marines would accept me. But thanks for the compliment!
This soldiers daughter would give our military free-reign in war. One directive only. Defeat the enemy, utterly and finally. No rules, no questions asked, and no apologies.


48 posted on 10/15/2007 9:53:02 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky
We need to eliminate the enemies at home first. If we don’t, our forces will be undercut at every turn. Step one is defining the line between “free speech” and treason. Step two is rigorously enforcing it.
49 posted on 10/15/2007 9:56:08 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Little Ray

There you go! Plain common sense!
You don’t spend a fortune, and years, eliminating rat-holes miles from your house, while ignoring the ones crawling under your bed.
There can be no internal terrorist attacks in this country if there are no terrorists here. The source of terrorism now is a rats nest called Islam. It IS PRODUCING the terror.
The source must be destroyed. First where we live, then on the planet.
Don’t trust what comes out of the hole.
Fire burns. Rain is wet. Islam kills.


50 posted on 10/15/2007 10:03:30 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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