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Man of Honor [Gen Pace Leaves Stars at "The Wall"
Red State ^ | 15 Oct 2007

Posted on 10/16/2007 7:51:31 AM PDT by PurpleMan

"At the Vietnam Wall we saw something unbelievable. We noticed three small index cards at the base of the Wall.

I knelt down for a closer look and noticed that a 4-star general's rank was pinned to each card.

The cards were personally addressed and said something like:

These are Yours - not mine! With Love and Respect, Your Platoon Leader, Pete Pace 1 Oct 2007

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had laid down his rank for his boys who died in Nam. Oct 1 was the day he stepped down as Chairman."

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pace; peterpace; usmc; vietnamwall
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Words can't express his class.
1 posted on 10/16/2007 7:51:33 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

Just WOW!!


2 posted on 10/16/2007 7:53:10 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: PurpleMan

Amazing!


3 posted on 10/16/2007 7:53:59 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: PurpleMan

Semper Fi to General Pace.


4 posted on 10/16/2007 7:54:59 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: PurpleMan; freema

Class act, General Pace!


5 posted on 10/16/2007 7:56:07 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Rummyfan

How could the Washingotn Post, New York Times, Washington Times, CBSNBCNBCABCMSNBCFOXCNN all miss this?


6 posted on 10/16/2007 7:57:33 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

Pelosi and Reid will claim he disrespected our fallen troops by dropping “litter” at Wall.


7 posted on 10/16/2007 7:57:59 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: PurpleMan

Hope they can get General Pace to run for Virgina’s senate seat being left open by Warner!


8 posted on 10/16/2007 8:00:11 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: PurpleMan

9 posted on 10/16/2007 8:01:24 AM PDT by postaldave (republicans need spending rehab before trying to control congress again.)
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To: Bender2

Won’t happen — ever.

He’s a class act


10 posted on 10/16/2007 8:02:10 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

Ping for great honor!


11 posted on 10/16/2007 8:02:53 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: PurpleMan
In the still hours after he retires, a military commander has to relive those horrors over and over. And the greatest burden any would bear would be that his actions caused young men and women to die.

I suspect each addresses that reality in his own way. This is as classy a tribute as any I could imagine.

12 posted on 10/16/2007 8:03:28 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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Bump!


13 posted on 10/16/2007 8:03:31 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: PurpleMan

I’ve been looking for a great thread to make my donation on. this is it.


14 posted on 10/16/2007 8:03:46 AM PDT by subterfuge (It's GREAT, to be, a Florida Gator!)
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To: PurpleMan

only Rush can cover this class act with class.

The rest of the media will just ask if their hair spray is ok.


15 posted on 10/16/2007 8:06:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: PurpleMan

A man who stuck up for his principles.


16 posted on 10/16/2007 8:06:04 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: PurpleMan

God Bless this great Patriot.

If I could reach through this monitor and hug that man, I would.

Now there, is a leader.


17 posted on 10/16/2007 8:07:15 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: PurpleMan

Wow.


18 posted on 10/16/2007 8:07:38 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: PurpleMan
General Pace is the type of person President Bush fires.

While Chertoff still has his cushy Homeland Security job.

19 posted on 10/16/2007 8:07:47 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam is a clown car with guns.)
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To: Bender2
Hope they can get General Pace to run for Virgina’s senate seat being left open by Warner!

Forget the Senate, how about the White House?
20 posted on 10/16/2007 8:08:39 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: PurpleMan
Hard to type this through totally blurred eyes.

Leni

21 posted on 10/16/2007 8:10:11 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !)
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To: PurpleMan

We will ALLWAYS need men of his character and determination. Thank God we still have the Marines.


22 posted on 10/16/2007 8:10:12 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: PurpleMan

class is right!


23 posted on 10/16/2007 8:12:12 AM PDT by dennisw (France needs a new kind of immigrant — one who is "selected, not endured" - Nicholas Sarkozy)
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To: PurpleMan
How could the Washingotn Post, New York Times, Washington Times, CBSNBCNBCABCMSNBCFOXCNN all miss this?

They didn't.

They DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW.

It's that simple. Their purpose is to twist your mind, by slanting the facts you receive.

24 posted on 10/16/2007 8:12:15 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: PurpleMan
Why did someone pick them up? They should have been left alone. General Pace left a gift and a tribute to his pals, and someone came along and picked it up? Then called the press?

It seems like something personal for the General, and I bet he is pissed it is in the news.

25 posted on 10/16/2007 8:15:43 AM PDT by Semper911 ("We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." -Marge Simpson)
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To: PurpleMan

That’s one helluva man! He needs to be the next Senator from Virginia, at the very least!


26 posted on 10/16/2007 8:16:41 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: Psycho_Bunny
General Pace is the type of person President Bush fires.

Our disgusting Dem run Senate would never have reconfirmed him for a second term. Instead they would have used his confirmation hearing as a circus of accusations, further damaging the war effort.

Have we ever before been in a war with half of the country's leaders taking action to keep us from victory? I will always believe that the war in Iraq would have ended years ago if it were not for our Dem legislators and our DBM encouraging the enemy to keep fighting.

27 posted on 10/16/2007 8:17:16 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: PurpleMan

Reading something like this might make a person cry.


28 posted on 10/16/2007 8:18:16 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: suspects

Hey Michael! This needs to be publicized throughout the Conservative talk show community. Can you help?


29 posted on 10/16/2007 8:21:09 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: Semper911

From the National Park Service website:
“Items are left at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial constantly by many, although not all, of the visitors. They are usually collected by NPS rangers at the site two times per day, once during the day shift and once during the night shift. In bad weather, artifacts are collected more frequently. The artifacts are tagged, given a unique identification number, and placed in museum storage bags. Note that Memorial Day (the last Monday in May) and Veterans’ Day (November 11th) tend to be the heaviest days of the year in terms of both visitorship and artifacts left. Independence Day (July 4th), Father’s Day (third Sunday in June), and days on which there is a significant event on the Mall are also fairly heavy. Then, the artifacts are stored on the Mall until a staff member brings them to the Museum and Resource Center (MRCE). Almost everything is saved for the collection. The only things that are not saved are active organic items (such as live plant matter) and U.S. National flags, unless the flags have been altered in some way. The unaltered flags are given by the rangers to Veteran’s Hospitals, Memorial visitors, or civic groups such as the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts. Once at the MRC, the artifacts are identified, researched, and eventually cataloged. When items are cataloged, a detailed description is written of them, and a report is prepared on their condition. Cataloging is done for the security of the collections, and in order to have an easy reference on the collection for exhibits, conservation, and the like.”

http://www.nps.gov/mrc/vvmc/faqs.htm


30 posted on 10/16/2007 8:21:54 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: mkjessup
Forget the Senate, how about the White House?

I'll second that.
31 posted on 10/16/2007 8:22:06 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.... Valor.)
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To: Semper911

I believe that all messages left at The Wall are collected, catalogued and preserved every day.


32 posted on 10/16/2007 8:22:19 AM PDT by maica (Where will Americans go for treatment, when we get a Canadian-style “free” healthcare system?)
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To: Bahbah
Reading something like this might make a person cry. I got chills reading it. The General is a true class act.
33 posted on 10/16/2007 8:22:23 AM PDT by bigeasy_70118
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To: PurpleMan; MinuteGal; ArrogantBustard; subterfuge
http://www.onelastmission.org/

General Pace:

In November 2008, the United States of America will arrive at a crossroads. The two paths that lay before the American people could not diverge more sharply. Down one lies bigger government, hostility to traditional values, and the lack of will to face down the great threat of our time: Islamic fascism. The other path leads to greater opportunity, an embrace of the values that have made America “a shining city on a hill,” and a commitment to absolute victory against those who would use terror to prey on innocents.

Moments such as these call for courageous leaders who can rise above the fray and steer the nation through troubled waters. That is why we are asking you to seek the Republican nomination to represent the Commonwealth of Virginia in the United States Senate.

We understand that after 40 years of dedicated service and personal sacrifice, that spending time with your family and enjoying a well-deserved retirement are far more appealing than the slings and arrows of Washington. There are rumors circulating that you will never consider a run for the Senate.

It is, however, your reluctance to serve that suggests to us that you must serve. For too long, the halls of power have been filled with self-important politicians who crave public office and the honor that it brings. In Washington, self-interest often trumps the public interest. For six years, you could change all of that. We don’t ask that you begin a second career; we ask that you serve one term at a moment in history that such service matters most.

General, the American people need your leadership in the U.S. Senate. The outcome of even one Senate race could mean the difference between pushing on towards victory and being driven from the field and rendering meaningless the blood that has been spilt in the sands of Iraq and Afghanistan. We cannot afford to be represented by a September 10th politician. We cannot spare you now.

Sir, we respectfully ask you to take on one last mission for your country.

Demonstrate your support for General Pace by donating via the link above. Should General Pace choose not to run, approved donations will be sent to Fisher House, a charity providing housing for veteran and active military families in times of need.

34 posted on 10/16/2007 8:26:52 AM PDT by radar101 (Duncan Hunter-The only possibility)
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To: PurpleMan

I agree.


35 posted on 10/16/2007 8:27:26 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: StarCMC; MS.BEHAVIN; Kathy in Alaska; LUV W

Honor.......ping


36 posted on 10/16/2007 8:29:30 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: radar101

Don’t turn this into a political run for Senate thread.


37 posted on 10/16/2007 8:29:47 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan
Go to this link:Contribute to General Pace. It goes into a fund that will be given to a "General Pace for Senate" campaign for the Virginia Senate if we can convince him to run. A big fat pot of money from conservatives desperate to have a real hero in the Senate might go a long way towards convincing him.
38 posted on 10/16/2007 8:29:54 AM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: PurpleMan
I had the personal honor of serving with General Pace 18 years ago when he was a Colonel in command of the Marine Barracks in DC. I was a young 27 year old Corporal at that time.

Outstanding Marine. Outstanding man.

Semper Fidelis, General.
39 posted on 10/16/2007 8:30:40 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (No better friend, no worse enemy)
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To: PurpleMan

I may have seen Gen. Pace close up in September. How many four star generals are there? I saw a four star at the airport in Dublin, but forgot his name.


40 posted on 10/16/2007 8:31:08 AM PDT by narby
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To: PurpleMan

I may have seen Gen. Pace close up in September. How many four star generals are there? I saw a four star at the airport in Dublin, but forgot his name.


41 posted on 10/16/2007 8:31:18 AM PDT by narby
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To: PurpleMan

I know it sounds great, but something tells me there is something wrong here.

He KNEW someone would see this and most likely would publicize it.

I doubt he would have done something to public at such a public place that would be so public; ie, he showed his humility by doing something so publicly?

If he did this, GREAT, however, I am not so sure he actually did this. A man of his stature would avoid the public response of it all.


42 posted on 10/16/2007 8:32:15 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: justanotherfreeper

God, you make me ill.

By usung this thread in your seemingly self-serving desire to turn him into a candidate and run his campaign you miss the essence of Peter Pace.

Honor the man. Drop it and start a new thread.


43 posted on 10/16/2007 8:33:41 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

>>>Words can’t express his class.<<<

His own words should have been headlines.

I cannot find a transcript of his speech, but CNN actually did a segment which uses the words that I remember General Pace saying at his farewell ceremony.

HOLMES: I’m T.J. Holmes. So glad you could be with us this morning. Up first this half hour, a final tribute by General Peter Pace, who used his own farewell to remember some of his men. We get this story from CNN Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (on camera): On the day his 40-year military career ended, in part because of the war in Iraq, General Peter Pace remembered the first men he lost in combat in another unpopular war long ago.

CNN has obtained photos from a private moment the day General Pace retired as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on October 1st.

(voice over): After this farewell ceremony with the president, the secretary of Defense, and the new chairman, Pace went to the Vietnam wall and left some notes. Each was addressed to one of the men who died during his command in Vietnam in 1968. Look closely. Each note has a set of his four stars pinned to the card.

This note, to 19-year-old Lance Corporal Guido Farinaro reads, “These are yours, not mine. With love and respect, your platoon leader, Pete Pace.”

He remembered those same men and others when he closed his farewell speech just an hour earlier.

GENERAL PETER PACE, (RET.) U.S. MARINE CORPS.: I made a promise about 38 years ago to Guido Farinaro, Chubby Hale, Whitey Traverse, Mike Witt, Little Joe Arnold, Freddy Williams, Jon Miller that I would serve this country in whatever capacity I could, for as long as I could, and try to do it in a way that would pay respect to the sacrifice that they made following Second Lieutenant Peter Pace in combat.

STARR: Pace, of course, did not get a second term as chairman because of the Iraq war. But we now know he left office that day making one last private stop to say good-bye one more time to the men of his platoon in Vietnam.

Barbara Starr, CNN, the Pentagon.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:tgLEBEQboMQJ:transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0710/13/smn.01.html+general+peter+pace+farewell+address+transcript&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us&client=safari


44 posted on 10/16/2007 8:34:14 AM PDT by maica (Where will Americans go for treatment, when we get a Canadian-style “free” healthcare system?)
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To: PurpleMan; armymarinemom; Just A Nobody; trooprally

FYI.


45 posted on 10/16/2007 8:34:20 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: PurpleMan
Don’t turn this into a political run for Senate thread.

That was not my intent. It was simply to illustrate what esteem this man is held in, and what honor he carries.

The Caption for the PHOTO:
U.S. Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, shakes hands with a retired Marine during the Columbus Day Parade along Fifth Avenue in New York City, N.Y., Oct. 9, 2006. Defense Dept. photo by U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt. D. Myles Cullen

46 posted on 10/16/2007 8:34:57 AM PDT by radar101 (Duncan Hunter-The only possibility)
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To: postaldave
I wondered who GUIDO FARINARO was.......here's some info....

"A year later, after a year at The Basic School at Quantico, which molds all new second lieutenants, he (Peter Pace) was on his way to Vietnam. He arrived in time to be assigned as a platoon leader in Golf Company, 2d Battalion, 5th Marines, then involved in heavy fighting in the Battle for Hue City. It was an experience that marked him forever. He was the third platoon commander in as many weeks. When he joined it, there were only 14 men remaining in the platoon instead of the authorized 43. Under the glass on his desk he keeps a photo of Lance Corporal Guido Farinaro, the first Marine to die while under his command. There would be many more to die. After 37 years he can still reel off their names. He himself escaped unscathed in his 13 months of Vietnam combat."

47 posted on 10/16/2007 8:35:10 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: RaceBannon

Respectfully,

I think if it had been a weasely clark he would have called the media BEFORE, he would have had the media there DURING.

He would not have left them there where they might not be noticed.

Did he know the MSM might pick this up? yes absolutly. might is not a guarantee. Did he care either way? no.


48 posted on 10/16/2007 8:37:03 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Semper911

http://photos.si.edu/legacy/legacy.html


49 posted on 10/16/2007 8:37:31 AM PDT by radar101 (Duncan Hunter-The only possibility)
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To: PurpleMan

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=47507
Above site reports a visit by Pace to Farinaro’s high school, and cites the circumstances of his death and it’s impact on Pace. Very worth reading.


50 posted on 10/16/2007 8:37:43 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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