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New Jersey: Clinton 51% Giuliani 40%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | October 16, 2007 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 10/16/2007 10:17:02 AM PDT by Kuksool

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To: Clemenza
Much of South Jersey is comprised of blue collar suburbs with Philly union and mafia rats who vote for idiots like Rob Andrews.

What's most amazing is that most of the people who actually vote for an treasonous idiot like Rob Andrews don't even know the treasonous idiot's name. All they know is that he had the D next to his name on election day.

It's stunning how little people in this area know... about anything, really. I preferred the activist leftists in California to the unwitting, uninformed dupes here on the east coast. These people are beneath contempt.

81 posted on 10/16/2007 12:32:16 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Use Dogpile. Tell a friend.)
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To: bill1952

Ohio’s teetering like Pennsylvania was twenty years ago. It will fall, it’s only a matter of when.

Same goes for Virginia, Missouri and Colorado. It’s just a matter of time.

I can’t think of a single blue state could swing red in the coming years. Not one.

The future prospects for the GOP are bleak. And if Ohio falls sooner rather than later and Hillary takes the throne in January of 2009, those prospects go from bleak to dead.


82 posted on 10/16/2007 12:47:04 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Use Dogpile. Tell a friend.)
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To: Jigajog
Well if Rudy can’t compete in either NJ or NY why are we considering him as a nominee?

I'm not

83 posted on 10/16/2007 12:48:26 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: DallasJ7

Giuliani has a much better shot at PA than NJ.


84 posted on 10/16/2007 12:58:12 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: RockinRight

Just giving you the last poll numbers I saw. I think it was Survey USA.


85 posted on 10/16/2007 12:58:43 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: TitansAFC
I have not seen any polling data on Rudy in TN, LA, AR, or IA vs. Hillary. Probably he loses IA.

The data I have seen (now about 2 weeks old) is that Rudy ties in WI, wins OH and KY, loses MN. Fred wasn't close in any except KY, but still lost to Hillary bigger than Rudy.

86 posted on 10/16/2007 1:00:20 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Kuksool
and Mitt Romney by twenty-four (55% to 41%).

Call me crazy but isnt 55 - 41 = 14.

Talk about a typo or is it called just trying to fit the template.

87 posted on 10/16/2007 1:01:06 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Cleveland Indians 2007, Fred Thompson 2008)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Yes, there is. As I said in the post, Rudy was ahead in OH, tied in WI and ahead in KY. I consider OH right now to be blue; WI is blue.

Unfortunately, there wasn't one non-South state where Fred had a lead over Hillary. None. And he was much further behind her than Rudy was in the competitive states.

88 posted on 10/16/2007 1:02:06 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS

Somehow, Giuliani is currently ahead of Clinton in MO, my home state...that’s a bit of a shocker at this point in time...


89 posted on 10/16/2007 1:03:41 PM PDT by jonathanmo (So many phobes, so little time...)
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To: wagglebee

Ah....but the “real conservatives” (at least those who support this unpopular war) are losing everywhere too. Unless the GOP switches course on that issue, say hello to President Hillary.


90 posted on 10/16/2007 1:04:18 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: jonathanmo
It's not a shocker to me. Hillary is hugely disliked. People are on the fence about Rudy.

My take---and I can be way off---is that people (especially on the broadly-defined right)---prefer Fred, but are still waiting to see him actually DO something. His initial speeches have not been viewed as "energetic" or "inspiring." He says the right things, but not in a way that has people running out to hand out campaign literature. I think if Fred doesn't do something to really inspire people in the next month, Rudy's numbers will go back up again.

If it is Rudy vs. Hillary, you'll get the 5% of uber-conservatives who will never vote for a pro-abort candidate to sit home, but I think the other 95% of conservatives who vote on a wide variety of issues will (often grudgingly) support Rudy. So far, he is the only one to consistently attack Hillary and his anti-Moveon ad was terrific.

He missed a chance to weigh in on Rush---Fred nailed it---but it hasn't bumped Fred up the way Rudy's NY Times anti-Moveon ad did.

91 posted on 10/16/2007 1:08:33 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: jonathanmo
It's not a shocker to me. Hillary is hugely disliked. People are on the fence about Rudy.

My take---and I can be way off---is that people (especially on the broadly-defined right)---prefer Fred, but are still waiting to see him actually DO something. His initial speeches have not been viewed as "energetic" or "inspiring." He says the right things, but not in a way that has people running out to hand out campaign literature. I think if Fred doesn't do something to really inspire people in the next month, Rudy's numbers will go back up again.

If it is Rudy vs. Hillary, you'll get the 5% of uber-conservatives who will never vote for a pro-abort candidate to sit home, but I think the other 95% of conservatives who vote on a wide variety of issues will (often grudgingly) support Rudy. So far, he is the only one to consistently attack Hillary and his anti-Moveon ad was terrific.

He missed a chance to weigh in on Rush---Fred nailed it---but it hasn't bumped Fred up the way Rudy's NY Times anti-Moveon ad did.

92 posted on 10/16/2007 1:08:47 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Kuksool

Going from Rokuema (sp?) to Garrett has to be one of the greatest trades up in all time.


93 posted on 10/16/2007 1:14:30 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Cleveland Indians 2007, Fred Thompson 2008)
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To: Captain Kirk
Ah....but the “real conservatives” (at least those who support this unpopular war) are losing everywhere too. Unless the GOP switches course on that issue, say hello to President Hillary.

This still isn't a reason to nominate Rooty Toots as he also supports the war.

94 posted on 10/16/2007 1:14:32 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Captain Kirk

Hillary will fight the war with less restriction and more success than Bush has, with the media behind her all the way. And popular support will follow suit.

The war’s unpopular because the box in everybody’s living room is telling them how bad it is. Keep deluding yourself with these notions that the American people are tossing and turning at night over questions of the mission’s worthiness or the war’s constitutionality. It’s pure fantasy.

They believe what the people on the box tell them to believe. Especially when the box spends the better part of five years hammering home a narrow, singular message (THE WAR IS BAD). The way you Paulestinians walk around like that’s a feather in your cap is laughable.

The socialist media controls this war. All you’re doing is cheering them on.


95 posted on 10/16/2007 1:58:23 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Use Dogpile. Tell a friend.)
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To: Kuksool

Of course the Dem will ultimately get the usual blue states. The thing is, not only will Rudy not get the blue states, he’ll lose some of the red because conservatives will not vote for a liberal.


96 posted on 10/16/2007 2:02:41 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: Kuksool

I can’t wait to move away, don’t worry Southern Folk, I won’t be coming to vote Democrat and ruin your state. (I will be trying to take your hottest women though)


97 posted on 10/16/2007 2:14:35 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: LS

So according to these polls...we have to choose between a gun-grabbing socialist wench, or a gun-grabbing capitalist turd.


98 posted on 10/16/2007 2:35:38 PM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: LS

To clarify, I love capitalism and don’t automatically classify a capitalist as a turd. Just Rudy, who also happens to be a turd...and is at least capitalist in his personal affairs...not so sure on his public ones.


99 posted on 10/16/2007 2:43:57 PM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: Jigajog

Do you think Fred has a chance in either one?


100 posted on 10/16/2007 2:45:45 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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