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Zogby Poll: Half Say They Would Never Vote for Hillary Clinton for President
Zogby ^ | October 20, 2007

Posted on 10/20/2007 11:22:06 AM PDT by keepitreal

While she is winning wide support in nationwide samples among Democrats in the race for their party’s presidential nomination, half of likely voters nationwide said they would never vote for New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, a new Zogby Interactive poll shows.

The online survey of 9,718 likely voters nationwide showed that 50% said Clinton would never get their presidential vote. This is up from 46% who said they could never vote for Clinton in a Zogby International telephone survey conducted in early March. Older voters are most resistant to Clinton – 59% of those age 65 and older said they would never vote for the New York senator, but she is much more acceptable to younger voters: 42% of those age 18–29 said they would never vote for Clinton for President.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; clinton; election; electionpresident; elections; hillary; negatives
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To: Liberty Wins
Wait til the Clintons lure a third-party candidate like Ross Perot into the race - - then she won’t need 51% of the votes.

Soros could buy the WH and Bubba could keep the change.

Right wing dictatorship looking better every day.

The founding fathers are long dead.

101 posted on 10/20/2007 6:06:05 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Mygirlsmom

I believe there’s a fair amount of the public who normally does not vote, but dislike her strongly enough to the point where they will make the effort


I’ve said since 2000 that MEN-those who haven’t voted for years-or have never voted at all- would register in RECORD droves just to vote against them (yes, plural-it’s always been 2 for the price of one). we shall see.


102 posted on 10/20/2007 6:15:36 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("Vote Hillary - the unanimous choice of vacuous Liberal newsreaders!")
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To: keepitreal
...half of likely voters nationwide said they would never vote for New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, a new Zogby Interactive poll shows.

Hard to win when 50% of the voters will NEVER vote for you!

This misses the real question: They won't vote for her, to be sure, but will all of these people vote for somebody else?

They can't just sit at home and be pissed off. They can't piss away their vote for a third party candidate.

Otherwise, she'll be President...and they defeat their own purpose.

You know, too, that Hillary and the Democrats' campaign will be directed against this very fact -- trying to make sure that the 50% who would never vote for her stay home and not vote for anybody else.

103 posted on 10/20/2007 6:31:14 PM PDT by okie01
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

I have no doubt she is taking voice lessons but there is no way she can change her voice that much.

You are right about one thing. Hillary is ice cold calculating and will make VERY few mistakes next year.


104 posted on 10/20/2007 6:43:53 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: L98Fiero
A valid point but she does not have near the charm that Bubba did.

She's charming like an anal wart.

105 posted on 10/20/2007 6:45:56 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: okie01

They can’t just sit at home and be pissed off. They can’t piss away their vote for a third party candidate.

Otherwise, she’ll be President...and they defeat their own purpose.


Call it what you want-there is no way in hell I will vote for Romney or Huckabee, although the latter doesn’t stand a chance as first on the ticket-but I won’t vote for a ticket that has them as VP either. I could probably force myself to go vote for McPain MAYBE Rooty9/11. If that causes her to win, then she does.


106 posted on 10/20/2007 7:00:55 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("Vote Hillary - the unanimous choice of vacuous Liberal newsreaders!")
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney
If that causes her to win, then she does.

Well, there you are.

If it was up to you, Hillary would be President.

107 posted on 10/20/2007 7:07:09 PM PDT by okie01
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To: keepitreal
"The online survey of 9,718 likely voters nationwide showed that 50% said Clinton would never get their presidential vote"

So what.

50% of Freepers aren't inclined to vote for the Republican candidate unless he has been a pro-life activist since birth and agrees we have the right to carry cancealed machine guns.

I'm starting to think the "intractable single issue" Republicans are busy paving the path for a Clinton II Presidency and no argument will stop them.

I would be more than happy to be proven wrong.

108 posted on 10/20/2007 7:09:18 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: okie01

Oh, horse$hit. You people keep using the Klintons as the Boogeyman. I’m through voting for someone just because they have an R by their name. That’s given us Ron Paul, Olympia Snowe,Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Ah-Nuld, and Hatch, to name a few. I’m tired of cRAT lite. It didn’t bother me a bit that DeWanker got beaten by a true socialist here in oHEILo-at least you know where you stand with the real thing. A LIAR like DeWanker or RHINOvich, on the other hand, will always knife you in the back. DeWine is now one of McPains campaign managers, by the way ,in case no one knew -they don’t talk about it much.


109 posted on 10/20/2007 7:46:39 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("Vote Hillary - the unanimous choice of vacuous Liberal newsreaders!")
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To: finnman69

I don’t know. I think the stress of campaigning will produce a meltdown moment somewhere. Just depends if someone catches it on camera and if that someone can outrun her goons.


110 posted on 10/20/2007 7:51:42 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Mrs Clinton! How'd your campain fund get so big????? "Ancient Chinese Secret!!!!")
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To: hiredhand

I’m afraid you are correct. The Dems have beem very successful in dividing us over how “pure” our candidates are.

The most RINO of GOP cadidates is a better choice (and an
imperativre for true patriots) than Hillary.


111 posted on 10/20/2007 8:04:19 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: hiredhand

Disgusting.


112 posted on 10/20/2007 8:08:18 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: keepitreal
Older voters are most resistant to Clinton – 59% of those age 65 and older said they would never vote for the New York senator, but she is much more acceptable to younger voters: 42% of those age 18–29 said they would never vote for Clinton for President.

Even better... the 65 y/o and older do vote. There is smaller percentage of the younger crowd that vote.

113 posted on 10/21/2007 12:37:38 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: rahbert

In summary.........

Conservatives are divided. That must change.

The media is just starting their pro-Hillary campaign where women and weak-kneed men will be cajoled into voting for the “first” female president.

The big unknown is the traditional non-voter. Because this election will feature the first female candidate at the top of the ticket, we may see a huge influx of non-traditional voters this time. College campuses will push young girls to vote. The media will push women everywhere to vote out of a sense of feminism.

A man somewhere will make a stupid comment and the media will showcase this as the typical male voter.

This election will become man versus woman.....and conservatives will lose.


114 posted on 10/21/2007 12:55:55 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: rahbert
Disgusting? I'll tell you what's disgusting.

For over four years our SOLE communication with the GOP was "SECURE THE BORDERS!". For four years, they sent us solicitations for donations, and called us. Our response never changed.

This culminated with that amnesty debuncle. At this, we jammed legislative switchboards in D.C., flooded e-mail systems, and ran their fax machines out of paper. We pressured enough Senators to stop the bill from passing.

But what was the response? The response was the President's scorching rebuttal to us a day later. Did you see it? I was amazed. I felt like he was talking to me personally! He was obviously angry at us! I logically thought that since we had managed to exert enough pressure, that he would be the man we voted for and do what was voiced by us.

But instead, a few days later he went to our enemy, Harry Reid and asked him to resurrect the bill. THIS is what split the GOP.

The reason this is dangerous is because there is a large base of now former GOP voters who wouldn't vote for "Rudy McRomney" if it meant life or death. We're just some of those people. We're going to vote for Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Fred Thompson, or Ron Paul. But collectively, we'll have no strength because these men are all some very good picks! They will divide our vote! Some are better than others, but they're all preferred over the current GOP front runners, and certainly the DNC picks.

But if the GOP doesn't nominate somebody like Duncan Hunter or one of those I mentioned above, this election is OVER. We'll be too divided as a conservative base to have any effect in the outcome. The result will be that Hillary Rodham Clinton will become the 44the President of the United States of America.

We won't vote for a "second best" again. We won't vote for a "Rudy McRomney" just to keep Hillary from winning the Presidency. But there are masses of cowards out there who will support the GOP come hell or high water, and they will. Of course they'll blame people like us for voting for a good man such as Duncan Hunter as Hillary is being sworn into office and we're all lamenting it. But it won't change the fact that we did what was right, and correct and they did NOT.
115 posted on 10/21/2007 6:10:26 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney
You people keep using the Klintons as the Boogeyman.

But we're not going to help elect her President.

You are.

That's your right. But be honest about what you propose to do.

116 posted on 10/21/2007 7:57:23 AM PDT by okie01
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

Thank you VERY much. You just proved a point that for some reason, too many people have a hard time grasping. See #115.


117 posted on 10/21/2007 12:29:42 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: keepitreal

“The online survey....”

There’s your demographic guys.......


118 posted on 10/21/2007 12:31:15 PM PDT by mo
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To: hiredhand

We won’t vote for a “second best” again. We won’t vote for a “Rudy McRomney” just to keep Hillary from winning the Presidency. But there are masses of cowards out there who will support the GOP come hell or high water, and they will. Of course they’ll blame people like us for voting for a good man such as Duncan Hunter as Hillary is being sworn into office and we’re all lamenting it. But it won’t change the fact that we did what was right, and correct and they did NOT.


THANK YOU.


120 posted on 10/21/2007 4:34:53 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("Vote Hillary - the unanimous choice of vacuous Liberal newsreaders!")
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney
You've probably noticed that nobody has any fight in them against what is written in #115. Oh sure, they "protest" and complain with indignation at me having insulted their choice of candidate, but what I've written is irrefutable. Worse than this, there's no realistic solution to the problem....at least not with the current voting base in its present "state".

I've felt very much lately like somebody watching a huge train wreck in slow motion. We can see it happening, and we try to warn people. But they only get mad or frightened. However, they do NOT do what they must in order to avert disaster. I don't think they have it in them anymore personally. They're all rooting for the "best of the worst" that the GOP has to offer and hoping desperately in vain that their pick is "gentler" on them than Hillary is going to be. It's unthinkable to them to consider my suggestion, because it brings with it an entire set of harsh realizations, nearly to the point of a paradigm shift. For a good number of us, we're already there. I've merely tried to warn others about this fact, even though they willfully refuse to believe it.

But while they're distracted by doing this, they're not paying attention to something far more serious. This something will make their worst fear a reality. I feel as though I explained it well in #115, even though too many people misunderstand what I've written. As time slips by, the opportunity of rallying support behind a truly worthy candidate becomes less and less a reality, and it becomes more probable that a "Rudy McRomney" be nominated.

...and as we both know, if that happens, on the day it happens, Hillary is the winner.
121 posted on 10/21/2007 7:18:47 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: keepitreal

“Gravel (D)

47%

Paul (D)

47% “

Paul is a Democrat now?


122 posted on 10/22/2007 10:41:36 AM PDT by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: bigjoesaddle

CF: post 122...


123 posted on 10/22/2007 12:08:20 PM PDT by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: MojoWire
All the more reason why the GOP must not choose Rudy Guliani, and instead opt for Romney, Thompson ... or ?

Excellent point. If we nominate Guliani, although he would be better than the Hildabeast, there is a real threat that many social conservatives might just stay home or vote for a third party candidate. Guliani has a long ways to go before he can placate many in our base.

124 posted on 10/22/2007 12:16:05 PM PDT by daviscupper
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