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NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE
Free Republic post ^ | 10/20/2007 | by ex-snook

Posted on 10/20/2007 2:08:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

"I speak for at least half the people here, including the Founder Jim Robinson, who has stated he will not vote for Giuliani under any circumstance."

Agree.

NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE

Don't Cut and Run, vote pro-life every time. It's the way you always win.

‘We cannot diminish the value of one category of human life — the unborn — without diminishing the value of all human life.’ —Ronald Reagan


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; elections; electionsgiuliani; giuliani; moralabsolutes; prolife; rudy; wordup
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To: longtermmemmory

BUMP


301 posted on 10/20/2007 4:51:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: All

Good movie:
My Fair Lady

on TCM at 8:00 eastern...

The movie opens as Henry Higgins (Rex Harrison, who originated the role on stage) meets Colonel Hugh Pickering (Wilfred Hyde-White, also a member of the original cast) as they are leaving the theater. It turns out that the two have admired each other’s work in linguistics for years. Higgins hears Eliza Doolittle (Hepburn) bawling in a cockney accent of singular gracelessness and makes a bet with Pickering that he can turn her into a lady with an accent so pure no one will guess her background.


302 posted on 10/20/2007 4:51:29 PM PDT by dakine
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To: wagglebee

It’s easy for her. She’s proudly pro abortion. She doesn’t pretend otherwise.


303 posted on 10/20/2007 4:51:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Liz
Rooty has more baggage than Paris Hilton

And bigger breasts!

304 posted on 10/20/2007 4:51:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

His dresses are much more modest too.


305 posted on 10/20/2007 4:53:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Reagan Man

Like I said you win, we don’t vote.

Wonderful, yes?


306 posted on 10/20/2007 4:54:11 PM PDT by mike h (God bless Ronald Reagan,)
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To: wagglebee; Liz

LOL!


307 posted on 10/20/2007 4:54:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: mike h

If your vote would’ve went for a gun grabbing abortionist liberal, I’d say great! Cogratulations! Welcome to the fight for Life and Liberty!


308 posted on 10/20/2007 4:55:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Reagan Man
You settle for very little: "Reagan's record on abortion is pretty good",

Actually, remember since 1973 we have had 3 years of President Ford, 8 years of President Reagan, 4 Years of President Bush I, and 7 years of Bush II. This is 22 years out of the 34 years since Roe vs. Wade.

Abortion is unchanged in America. In 2006 14,000 abortions were done in Minnesota. They don't even bother to record in what trimester the abortions were done.

This has been a top drawer issue, actually a litmus test issue, for "social conservatives" and "value voters" for 34 years. In that time little or nothing has been accomplished that actually reduced the number of abortions. Your suggested progress is all window dressing provided by the politicians to pander for your votes.

309 posted on 10/20/2007 4:55:58 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Jim Robinson; wagglebee; Liz

“His dresses are much more modest too”

Maybe somebody should tell Rudy his dresses are looking rather frayed!


310 posted on 10/20/2007 4:56:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Theo

He’s playing the Wizard. Regardless, he said he won’t vote for Fred. I might have had McCain there inst. of Mitt, but Dobson may not endorse a Morman anyway...as far as I’m concerned, the audio says it all...


311 posted on 10/20/2007 4:56:49 PM PDT by pookie18 (I'm voting for the Republican nominee!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Fifty six patriotic Americans signed that document. Many of them did lose everything, EXCEPT their honor. I can't imagine what they would think about the cold-blooded murder of 3500 innocent Americans EVERY DAY.

312 posted on 10/20/2007 4:57:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: dakine

Great film!


313 posted on 10/20/2007 4:57:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

LMAO!


314 posted on 10/20/2007 4:57:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jim Robinson

“NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE”

Darn tootin’


315 posted on 10/20/2007 4:58:37 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://franz.org/quiz.htm)
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To: shrinkermd

If you’re not going to fight against abortionist liberals, why are you on Free Republic?


316 posted on 10/20/2007 4:58:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: wagglebee
Reality is that politicians will lie their asses off to get elected.

Then what's the difference between Rudy and one of your Pol's who says he'll make Pro-life part of his litmus test?? If all politicians will lie to get in office??

Reality is, judges should rule by the law...not politics. The only litmus test should be will you uphold the laws of this nation...(not create them or involve your personal opinions....Too much today, from both conservative and liberal judges...we have judges who see their court rooms as their own playpens).

317 posted on 10/20/2007 4:59:01 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: wagglebee; All

“Fifty six patriotic Americans signed that document. Many of them did lose everything, EXCEPT their honor. I can’t imagine what they would think about the cold-blooded murder of 3500 innocent Americans EVERY DAY.”

Sure you can......they would be mortified!


318 posted on 10/20/2007 4:59:04 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

“If your vote would’ve went for a gun grabbing abortionist liberal”

Isn’t that the beast?


319 posted on 10/20/2007 4:59:58 PM PDT by mike h (God bless Ronald Reagan,)
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To: mike h

Yup. Both of them.


320 posted on 10/20/2007 5:00:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: DevSix
Then what's the difference between Rudy and one of your Pol's who says he'll make Pro-life part of his litmus test?

Because the politicians I vote for have proven pro-life records, Rooty Toots openly supports abortion (and my suspicion is that a majority of the Rooty Rooters support abortion as well).

321 posted on 10/20/2007 5:01:50 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
No. I am saying that the WH is job title that requires more then the mind frame of one-issue thinking. The job of the WH is much larger than the issue of abortion.

Furthermore, those who believe litmus tests should be on our judges regarding abortion are wrong... The only litmus test should be will you uphold the laws of this nation / constitution....WITHOUT interjecting your own opinion or politics.

322 posted on 10/20/2007 5:02:12 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: mike h
That is an unintelligible statement. IOW, off the wall.

Either you support the sanctity of life, or you don't.

I'm not about to vote for a liberal to appease you and others like you.

323 posted on 10/20/2007 5:03:01 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: mike h

You have met the enemy. The she beast wears pants and the other a dress. Otherwise they are equally evil.


324 posted on 10/20/2007 5:03:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: wagglebee; stephenjohnbanker

Surgery can work wonders.................LOL.


325 posted on 10/20/2007 5:04:15 PM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: mike h; Reagan Man

Conservatives don’t vote for abortionists!


326 posted on 10/20/2007 5:04:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Hildy
What a selfish rat you are.

John Q Adams told me to stand up on principle!

A dem Congress (and we will be losing seats this election) and a Hillary president? There might not be a country to save after 8 years.

We survived 8 years of Slick, didn't we? This without the blogs, Internet, FR, etc.

And you willing to take that chance makes me say again that you and people like you are NOT PATRIOTS.

I ain't voting for no Fruity if he's the nominee, forget it! Those who say that I'm helping to elect Hillary can kiss my behind.

If I may take a phrase from the day: you're PHONY PATRIOTS...you can't be a patriot and believe the whole country rests on one issue.

You're the phony patriot, not me. I ain't scared of Hillary like you guys are, hiding under your blankets with the light on and crap.

327 posted on 10/20/2007 5:05:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("Just 3 hours a day with Rudy Guiliani is all I ask" -- Sean Hannity is on!)
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To: DevSix
No. I am saying that the WH is job title that requires more then the mind frame of one-issue thinking. The job of the WH is much larger than the issue of abortion.

If he had some special qualifications to be president, I might overlook my suspicion that he's another Larry Craig and that Hillary's thugs are going to expose him after he gets the nomination.

But I don't see any special qualifications. What are you seeing there that's so damned special?

328 posted on 10/20/2007 5:05:24 PM PDT by tear gas
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To: wagglebee
There is a difference between supporting abortion...and saying it doesn't belong in the federal govt's hands.

I doubt very much Rudy supports "abortions" (the act itself). Though he may support the notion that it is not the federal govt's role (or courts) to regulate it. Perhaps giving it back to the States to decide individually.

The WH is a job title that requires a larger mind frame then simply tying oneself to a one-issue voting base. Especially understanding that the pro-life side is winning. Facts, education and technology are all pushing the tide for the pro-life'ers.

Rudy agrees with conservative judges on the whole. That he may differ on the issue of abortion is immaterial on the whole.

329 posted on 10/20/2007 5:07:02 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Jim Robinson

OK fine, I promise not to vote for eater beast, Happy? Is that a win?


330 posted on 10/20/2007 5:07:24 PM PDT by mike h (God bless Ronald Reagan,)
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To: tear gas
If he had some special qualifications to be president

Mayor of New York City easily qualifies one for president. It is a job that is harder than most governorships and even running most countries. There is a reason it is referred to as the second hardest job in America. This says nothing about the positions of someone that has been NYC mayor, but they are nonetheless very qualified.

331 posted on 10/20/2007 5:08:12 PM PDT by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: Hildy; Extremely Extreme Extremist
you can't be a patriot and believe the whole country rests on one issue.

No, it rests on "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." Without LIFE the other two will eventually disappear, which I suppose is the ultimate goal of you and your liberal ilk.

332 posted on 10/20/2007 5:08:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: shrinkermd
>>>>>Your suggested progress is all window dressing provided by the politicians to pander for your votes.

You're pathetic!

Anytime, anyone stands up for the sanctity of life, they'll get my vote. Reagan was pro-life. He got my vote. Fred is pro-life. He wants an end to Roe v Wade and abortion on demand abolished as the national policy of the US government. That is something I can wholeheartedly support.

333 posted on 10/20/2007 5:09:03 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: tear gas
But I don't see any special qualifications. What are you seeing there that's so damned special?

Sound position - I'd suggest Rudy has actually run something. He has actual had to be a leader, an actual decision maker! - Compared to the DEM alternatives, right there, that makes him special.

I've never said Rudy's "my man/candidate" - But I understand the seriousness of what is facing our next POTUS/CinC....and we cannot allow the ilk of the Democrat party in that position.

I clearly understand Rudy would be without question the correct choice (on the whole) for this nation over the Democrat candidate. Full stop.

334 posted on 10/20/2007 5:10:35 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: BenLurkin

I agree fully. Lesser then two evils... I wont sit by and let another KLINTON be president. NEVER NEVER NEVER!


335 posted on 10/20/2007 5:11:03 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: BenLurkin

I’m with you, if you mean Rudy > Hillary/ Obama/ Edwards, yes.

No way I’m voting for Rudy in the primary.


336 posted on 10/20/2007 5:12:00 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: DevSix
I doubt very much Rudy supports "abortions" (the act itself).

He is on record as saying he would pay for his daughter to get one, as president he would try to get the American taxpayers for them.

The WH is a job title that requires a larger mind frame then simply tying oneself to a one-issue voting base.

Agreed, Rooty Tooty showing up at Ground Zero on 9/11 is "one issue" so he should just drop out now.

337 posted on 10/20/2007 5:13:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jim Robinson
The changes will have to be gradual with broad support including across the aisle.

Calling people names has not worked. “Carrying the fight” has not worked.

Just look at the results after 34 years. Paltry to no real change has been the rule. Even by those “pro-life” politicians who seem to get religion just before every election.

As a beginning, go across the aisle and try to make the law of the land require fetal sonograms required and available to all planning to abort their child. Then add one day of waiting before permitting the procedure. Primates visually seek out others and are reinforced and identify with others. This is why this will work. Appeal to the better angels of human nature rather than worst also underlies this principle.

People, and especially potential mothers, basically believe they are removing jello from their womb. This is a good first step and one that would likely work. it is also consistent with "Casey" SCOTUS decision.

It cannot work, if you demonize anyone who differs with your opinion; they may be your allies in gradually reducing the number of abortions. Immediately criminalizing 1,000,000 women a year (approx no abortions) is not going to happen in Congress or SCOTUS. Other than discharging emotion, trying to achieve this criminalization has no real workable goal.

338 posted on 10/20/2007 5:13:27 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: postaldave
once again, stay ON TOPIC

Sorry, I don't take orders from folks who don't know when to capitalize or use punctuation.

339 posted on 10/20/2007 5:14:18 PM PDT by humblegunner ()
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To: Liz

:-)


340 posted on 10/20/2007 5:14:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: crazydad

Hell, yes.

If doing everything one can to keep Hillary from being president is not voting one’s conscience I don’t know what is.


341 posted on 10/20/2007 5:15:55 PM PDT by Perfesser
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To: Reagan Man; stephenjohnbanker; wagglebee; Jim Robinson
NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE

It is paramount for a Nation to have values worth defending......the sanctity of life is just such a pre-eminent value.

What kind of a democracy would Rooty be defending around the globe?

Rooty bills himself as the WOT candidate----yet he would preside over defending and promoting home-grown terrorism on the unborn.

In the last analysis, it is positively nauseating to contemplate Rooty ordering even one brave American soldier into battle to defend his belief in the public financing of government-sanctioned killing of unborn babies.

342 posted on 10/20/2007 5:16:08 PM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: scarface367
Nobody ever elected “Mare” of NYC has EVER been elected to even a statewide office after they left!

I don’t think it qualifies one for much of anything, and it never has.

343 posted on 10/20/2007 5:16:13 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Jim Robinson

Life is the standard of all value.

life


344 posted on 10/20/2007 5:16:21 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: scarface367
Mayor of New York City easily qualifies one for president. It is a job that is harder than most governorships and even running most countries. There is a reason it is referred to as the second hardest job in America.

What a crock. How about Mayor Koch and Mayor Dinkins - are they qualified to be president just because they were mayors of NYC? Just being the mayor of New York doesn't even qualify any of them to be the manager of the Yankees. I keep hearing about all he did on 9-11 but all I remember is seeing him running around with a hankie over his mouth.

His candidacy is a joke. Thompson and Hunter are both far more qualified.

345 posted on 10/20/2007 5:16:45 PM PDT by tear gas
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To: Beagle8U
I don’t think it qualifies one for much of anything, and it never has.

You can think what you want, reality says otherwise.

346 posted on 10/20/2007 5:17:34 PM PDT by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: Jim Robinson

As far as I am concerned, Life is the only issue. That means NO RUDY!!!!


347 posted on 10/20/2007 5:17:52 PM PDT by thepresidentsbestfriend (God Bless Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter, and Huck.)
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To: mike h

If you say so. But if Rudy is the nominee, we’ve already lost.


348 posted on 10/20/2007 5:18:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: wagglebee
as president he would try to get the American taxpayers for them.

Show me where he said this? Or has suggested he would try and make abortions federal paid for again. I don't buy this whatsoever.

Rudy is more than ground zero. He appears right on taxes, WOT and Iraq to name a few......Though I don't like his pro-police state type opinions, nor his past positions on guns.

349 posted on 10/20/2007 5:18:45 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Liz; Reagan Man; wagglebee; Jim Robinson

“Rooty bills himself as the WOT candidate——yet he would preside over defending and promoting home-grown terrorism on the unborn.

In the last analysis, it is positively nauseating to contemplate Rooty ordering even one brave American soldier into battle to defend his belief in the public financing of government-sanctioned killing of unborn babies.”

Excellent Liz!!


350 posted on 10/20/2007 5:19:33 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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