Posted on 10/20/2007 2:08:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
"I speak for at least half the people here, including the Founder Jim Robinson, who has stated he will not vote for Giuliani under any circumstance."
Agree.
Don't Cut and Run, vote pro-life every time. It's the way you always win.
‘We cannot diminish the value of one category of human life — the unborn — without diminishing the value of all human life.’ —Ronald Reagan
no matter how we say it;
No Rudy, No Problem
NO GIULIANI = NO PROBLEM
The rudybots want voters to vote the general election at the primary. The primary is the PRIMARY.
Giuliani is Hillary.
We would not vote for Hillary Clinton to be the Republican nominee.
We therefore should not vote for Rudy Giulaini in the primary.
No Giuliaini, NO PROBLEM.
Agreed!
Bump for LIFE!
I made no mention of his stance on that.
I referenced his cut and run policy.
Are the two connected in some way?
I must agree with this statement. If this involves voting third arty, then so be it. It that results in Democrats taking office, then so be it. I must take responsibility for my own vote, and what that says about me. I will not compromise my values and convictions just so Republicans (who do not differ from Democrats other than foreign policy) can win an office. I will stand up for what I believe.
Ditto.
Thank you!
“I made no mention of his stance on that.”
then stay on topic, this is a pro-life thread.
Ping. I will never vote for any of these baby-killers. Anyone who believes that it is ok to murder the unborn is irredeemable in my eyes.
Roe vs. Wade must be overturned and the unborn must have a voice in America! Fred will nominate just the right kind of judges to do that. Fire as many liberal attorneys as he can as he comes into office.
While he's at it, he could clean up the State Department and Pentagon of all liberal attorneys. That would be a good for America!
"Make no mistake, abortion-on-demand is not a right granted by the Constitution. Nowhere do the plain words of the Constitution even hint at a "right" so sweeping as to permit abortion up to the time the child is ready to be born."
"We cannot diminish the value of one category of human life--the unborn--without diminishing the value of all human life."
"Abraham Lincoln recognized that we could not survive as a free land when some men could decide that others were not fit to be free and should therefore be slaves. Likewise, we cannot survive as a free nation when some men decide that others are not fit to live and should be abandoned to abortion or infanticide. My Administration is dedicated to the preservation of America as a free land, and there is no cause more important for preserving that freedom than affirming the transcendent right to life of all human beings, the right without which no other rights have any meaning."
~~~ President Ronald Reagan, 1983, From: Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation
In those cases your vote for a pro-life candidate instead of Rudy will not be "letting Hillary have it" since she will win that state anyway. However, your vote for a third party pro-life candidate night do a few things: send a clear message that RINOS are not supported by the base for one and two, possibly garnering enough votes for a pro-life third party to qualify for matching funds.
PRay for the unborn.
VOTE PRO-LIFE.
Bumperoo
Did you see or read quotes from Rudy’s speech to the Values conference?
Unbelieveable.
Apparently Christianity is defined by “inclusiveness” and what we share in common, not the principles that we don’t. Well, sure, if by that you mean sex, race etc...are not/should not be dividers we’re inclusive. But I don’t see God relaxing his his laws so we can have a big love in in heaven with Buddhists, Muslims and Atheiests and I’m not relaxing my principles to accept this liberal on the top of the ticket. i accepted too many in Congress and saw where that got us.
he also states he finds it difficult to understand why people make him out an advocate for liberal causes. sanctuary cities mayor? Liberal appointments to the courts? friendship with the ACLU ring a bell?
reagan is apparently now his hero, after Reagan is dead and one of the five most popular presidents. Not so much back when his approval rating was a lot lower and he was still breathing on this earth.
Rudy says we should never let anyone tell us our faith shouldn’t be part of our political values. then he cites that 80% agreement shouldn’t make him an enemy, meaning we should compromises our faith to elect him President.
At the end he gives this huge piece about a good political leader being one who is honest. After spending an entire speech being less then honest and referencing God more times then i suspect he ever did privately as mayor of new York, attending gay pride parades and courting his mistress.
the only parts that ring true in here are his remarks on the WOT and Israel. On thse issues I have some respect for him. but that’s not enough, not near enough to e the Republican nominee.
Not even if they've had a recent "change of heart" on the subject!
Any society that stands by silently while 3500 babies per day are murdered does not have the moral authority to lead the free world.
Then it’s too late and we’ve already lost. A liberal abortionist vs liberal abortionist is no choice at all. If Rudy gets the nomination, I’ll be praying that enough pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-constitution senators, congressmen, governors, judges, religious and conservative leaders and grassroots citizens like you and I become thoroughly disgusted with the GOP’s head-long slide into socialism that they join together and form a new party dedicated to defending Life, Liberty and Freedom. There is precedence. It’s how the Republican party was formed.
What if this position results in more deaths in the long runs?
BUMP
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