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Live Updating Thread: 2007 Southern California Firestorms
LA Times ^ | 9:35 AM PDT, October 21, 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/21/2007 9:48:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

UPDATE: The city of Malibu is advising residents in Puerco Canyon to begin evacuating due to a wildfire driven by powerful winds. This area is north of Pacific Coast Highway and about 1 mile west of Pepperdine University. Residents along the beach on Malibu Road may soon be evacuated. Pacific Coast Highway is closed between Kanan-Dume Road and Topanga Canyon. Residents are advised to head to the west. Evacuation centers are being set up in the Zuma Beach area.

A wildfire driven by powerful winds in the Malibu Hills this morning threatened a university, destroyed at least one home and forced the evacuation of hundreds more, authorities said.

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KEYWORDS: 0interestloans; albabysfault; arson; breathofsatan; firestorm; heros; ididitfatnotlazy; jamul; julian; lakearrowheadfire; malibu; orangecofires; prayforrain; ramona; sandiegofire; santaanawinds; wildfire; wildfires
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To: BurbankKarl

That is why they would not let residents back in to Bouquet Canyon. I saw Eric Spillman interviewing some residents at the blockade, they wanted to get back in to water their horses, check their homes, etc....

1,301 posted on 10/22/2007 11:21:28 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The smoke we have in Rancho Cucamonga is coming from the Arrowhead Lake fires up on the Rim of the World. Hard to believe that since usually the smoke from the mountains travels high up into the atmosphere. The Santa Ana’s here are blowing as fast as they ever do. The smoke from the Rim is coming down the mountain with the Santa Ana winds and then traveling just above our heads here in Rancho. Gonna be almost impossible for them to handle a fire up in those mountains right now with the resources spread so thin. Traveled along Route 66 and they are piles of dirt collecting on the road deposited by the winds. Many small trees down. Gonna be living under the smoke from the Rim for a few days.
1,302 posted on 10/22/2007 11:27:06 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: La Enchiladita
My brother's house in Rancho Santa Fe is threatened, and he is on business in Oregon. Luckily he had a house/dog sitter to get his pooch out of the area. His ex-wife's house to the east has burned, if I understood his garbled phone message.

This really sucks, that is some beautiful land and houses around there. I used to live just north of the 56 highway, looks like they would have moved me out with this evacuation.........

1,303 posted on 10/22/2007 11:29:10 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: La Enchiladita

new start in City of LA

1,304 posted on 10/22/2007 11:33:18 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

“Well, the houses they save in this firestorm will get wiped out by the mudflows during the rains. Its like dejavu all over again...1993?”

That’s exactly what my husband said. All that loosened earth will cause mud slides.

Prayers for all the folks in that region. I just spoke with someone in San Diego and she said the fires are twenty minutes away from her location and they may have to leave their office.

1,305 posted on 10/22/2007 11:38:24 AM PDT by bunches (Irish people enjoy whimsical humor)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

Malibu fire still out of control!

1,306 posted on 10/22/2007 11:42:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: BurbankKarl; bd476

I’m seeing Malibu and Irvine on TV... will stand by for more re City of L.A....

Thanks, Karl.

1,307 posted on 10/22/2007 11:42:56 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: doorgunner69

I pray your brother’s house can be saved, doorgunner69.

1,308 posted on 10/22/2007 11:44:06 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

This is simply unreal. Every time I come back here, another fire has started, or more people are being evac’d.

Adding arson to the mix really boggles the mind.

These firefighters must be worn to the bone..expect you’ll be getting reinforcments from all over the country.

1,309 posted on 10/22/2007 11:44:32 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: justa-hairyape
There is a thread going on that fire:

Butler II Fire Restarts ("Hundreds of homes are going to burn today.")
The Daily Bulletin ^ | 10/22/2007 | Stacia Glenn
Posted on 10/22/2007 9:59:31 AM PDT by Smogger

1,310 posted on 10/22/2007 11:51:45 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: La Enchiladita
Hey La Enchiladita and all CA FReepers.

Our hopes from here are that you are all safe and will stay that way.

Saying small humble prayers for all of you.


1,311 posted on 10/22/2007 11:54:36 AM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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To: jwfiv

Still waiting to hear from you, Julian is usually pretty hard hit during these fires...

1,312 posted on 10/22/2007 12:01:56 PM PDT by Serb5150 (There is nothing so unnatural as the commonplace.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

19,000 Navy families being evacuated..San Diego .. cnn

1,314 posted on 10/22/2007 12:41:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge
I just had a terifinng thought what if some sleeper cell was in so cal and ready to hit a major soft target
1,315 posted on 10/22/2007 12:44:41 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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Zero-percent contained

Wildfires rage in Southern Calif.

SAN DIEGO - Wildfires fanned by fierce desert winds consumed huge swaths of bone-dry Southern California on Monday, burning dozens of buildings and threatening hundreds more from Malibu to San Diego, including a jail, a hospital and nursing homes.

More than a dozen wildfires had engulfed the region, killing at least one person, injuring dozens more and forcing hundreds of thousands of evacuations. Overwhelmed firefighters said they lacked the resources to save many houses.

“We have more houses burning than we have people and engine companies to fight them,” San Diego Fire Captain Lisa Blake said. “A lot of people are going to lose their homes today.”

Nearly 250,000 people were forced to flee in San Diego County alone, where hundreds of patients were being moved by school bus and ambulance from a hospital and nursing homes, sheriff’s spokeswoman Susan Knauss said.

About a dozen blazes erupted over the weekend, feeding on drought-parched land from the high desert to the Pacific Ocean. One person was killed and several injured in a fire near the Mexican border, and dozens of structures have burned across the region.

Warm temperatures and strong winds created “dramatically worse” conditions overnight as flames shot 200 feet high, said Bill Metcalf, chief of the North County Fire Protection District.

In Orange County, a 1,049-inmate jail was being evacuated because of heavy smoke, sheriff’s spokesman Jim Amormino said. Inmates were being bused to another facility in Irvine.

All San Diego Police Department officers and off duty detectives were ordered to return to work to help with evacuations.

The fires have burned about 100,000 acres, or 156 square miles, in San Diego County, said county Supervisor Ron Roberts. Across the region, 40,000 acres, or 62 square miles, had burned by Sunday.

“This is a major emergency,” Roberts said.

In many cases, crews couldn’t begin to fight the fires because they were too busy rescuing residents who refused to leave, fire officials said.

“They didn’t evacuate at all, or delayed until it was too late,” Metcalf said. “And those folks who are making those decisions are actually stripping fire resources.”

More than a dozen people were being treated at the UC San Diego Medical Center Regional Burn Center for burns and smoke inhalation, including four fighters — three in critical condition, officials said. Some of the injured were hikers, and others may be illegal immigrants.

One blaze devoured more than 5,000 acres in northern San Diego County and forced the evacuation of the community of Ramona, which has a population of about 36,000. Several structures were burned on the edge of town and sheriff’s deputies called residents to alert them the fire was approaching the city, San Diego sheriff’s Lt. Phil Brust said.

“The winds are up, it’s very, very dangerous conditions,” San Diego County spokeswoman Lesley Kirk said. “Fires are popping up all over the place.”

Guardsmen assigned to the border were forced to evacuate one of their barracks and troops were aiding evacuations, said Col. David Baldwin, director of operations for the California National Guard.

“The border is still secure, but agents are evacuating the threatened areas and the Guard is supporting that operation,” Baldwin said.

Qualcomm Stadium, home to the NFL’s Chargers, was added to a growing list of evacuation centers.

The fires were being fueled by stronger than usual Santa Ana winds roaring out of the region’s canyons, scientists said Monday. The powerful, dry winds typically blow between October and February and peak in December.

Typically, Santa Ana conditions last about a day, but the ones that flared up over the weekend were expected to last through Tuesday.

“For it to be this strong for so many days is unusual,” said Stuart Seto, a weather specialist with the National Weather Service in Oxnard.

In Saugus, north of Los Angeles, about 120 people spent the night on cots in the gymnasium of Saugus High School, principal Bill Bolde said.

Michele Beard fled her home with her husband, mother-in-law and three older children.

“It just lit up the whole mountainside fiery red,” said Beard, 48. “I had never seen anything like that so close before.”

The fire in Malibu had destroyed or damaged 16 structures, among them a church, homes and a historic castle, and was expected to burn for another two to three days, Los Angeles County Fire Chief P. Michael Freeman said. “There will literally be thousands of homes that will be threatened” until the blaze is out, he said.


Associated Press writers Elliot Spagat in San Diego and Chelsea J. Carter and Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles and AP Science Writer Alicia Chang in Los Angeles contributed to this report.

1,316 posted on 10/22/2007 12:44:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Lizarde

I have to go offline for a few hours.
West Hollywood is fine, but stay tuned to this thread and especially info from Burbank Karl...

1,317 posted on 10/22/2007 12:45:22 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: al baby

DHS has it covered, I’m sure. ;-)

1,318 posted on 10/22/2007 12:46:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
"Another FReeper (jerk) seemed happy to see Malibu burn because a some liberal movie stars live there."

Of course you are aware that the particular flapjaw motormouth to whom you refer has long been a plague on FR. As I recall, this guy was (and probably still is) one of the more vocal screechers debunking the SPP/NAU as a valid threat.

1,319 posted on 10/22/2007 12:47:24 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar

Posted by MNJohnnie to al baby; La Enchiladita; dragnet2
On News/Activism 10/21/2007 11:05:38 AM PDT · 102 of 1,319

( Celebs Homes...Mel Gibson...etc)
I will explain it to you since your knee jerk self riotousness blinds you to the painfully obvious. Many of these people are fashionable greens. Not quite so much fun for them to actually bear the consequences of their Green dogmas. Proper conservation techniques would prevent these sort of disasters but because of their rabid Green dogmas, they prevent anything that might spoil their “pristine” environment. Kind of a case of their chickens coming home to roost.

1,320 posted on 10/22/2007 12:49:55 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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