Skip to comments.Live Updating Thread: 2007 Southern California Firestorms
Posted on 10/21/2007 9:48:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
UPDATE: The city of Malibu is advising residents in Puerco Canyon to begin evacuating due to a wildfire driven by powerful winds. This area is north of Pacific Coast Highway and about 1 mile west of Pepperdine University. Residents along the beach on Malibu Road may soon be evacuated. Pacific Coast Highway is closed between Kanan-Dume Road and Topanga Canyon. Residents are advised to head to the west. Evacuation centers are being set up in the Zuma Beach area.
A wildfire driven by powerful winds in the Malibu Hills this morning threatened a university, destroyed at least one home and forced the evacuation of hundreds more, authorities said.
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That is why they would not let residents back in to Bouquet Canyon. I saw Eric Spillman interviewing some residents at the blockade, they wanted to get back in to water their horses, check their homes, etc....
This really sucks, that is some beautiful land and houses around there. I used to live just north of the 56 highway, looks like they would have moved me out with this evacuation.........
new start in City of LA
“Well, the houses they save in this firestorm will get wiped out by the mudflows during the rains. Its like dejavu all over again...1993?”
That’s exactly what my husband said. All that loosened earth will cause mud slides.
Prayers for all the folks in that region. I just spoke with someone in San Diego and she said the fires are twenty minutes away from her location and they may have to leave their office.
Malibu fire still out of control!
I’m seeing Malibu and Irvine on TV... will stand by for more re City of L.A....
I pray your brother’s house can be saved, doorgunner69.
This is simply unreal. Every time I come back here, another fire has started, or more people are being evac’d.
Adding arson to the mix really boggles the mind.
These firefighters must be worn to the bone..expect you’ll be getting reinforcments from all over the country.
Our hopes from here are that you are all safe and will stay that way.
Saying small humble prayers for all of you.
Still waiting to hear from you, Julian is usually pretty hard hit during these fires...
19,000 Navy families being evacuated..San Diego .. cnn
Wildfires rage in Southern Calif.
SAN DIEGO - Wildfires fanned by fierce desert winds consumed huge swaths of bone-dry Southern California on Monday, burning dozens of buildings and threatening hundreds more from Malibu to San Diego, including a jail, a hospital and nursing homes.
More than a dozen wildfires had engulfed the region, killing at least one person, injuring dozens more and forcing hundreds of thousands of evacuations. Overwhelmed firefighters said they lacked the resources to save many houses.
“We have more houses burning than we have people and engine companies to fight them,” San Diego Fire Captain Lisa Blake said. “A lot of people are going to lose their homes today.”
Nearly 250,000 people were forced to flee in San Diego County alone, where hundreds of patients were being moved by school bus and ambulance from a hospital and nursing homes, sheriff’s spokeswoman Susan Knauss said.
About a dozen blazes erupted over the weekend, feeding on drought-parched land from the high desert to the Pacific Ocean. One person was killed and several injured in a fire near the Mexican border, and dozens of structures have burned across the region.
Warm temperatures and strong winds created “dramatically worse” conditions overnight as flames shot 200 feet high, said Bill Metcalf, chief of the North County Fire Protection District.
In Orange County, a 1,049-inmate jail was being evacuated because of heavy smoke, sheriff’s spokesman Jim Amormino said. Inmates were being bused to another facility in Irvine.
All San Diego Police Department officers and off duty detectives were ordered to return to work to help with evacuations.
The fires have burned about 100,000 acres, or 156 square miles, in San Diego County, said county Supervisor Ron Roberts. Across the region, 40,000 acres, or 62 square miles, had burned by Sunday.
“This is a major emergency,” Roberts said.
In many cases, crews couldn’t begin to fight the fires because they were too busy rescuing residents who refused to leave, fire officials said.
“They didn’t evacuate at all, or delayed until it was too late,” Metcalf said. “And those folks who are making those decisions are actually stripping fire resources.”
More than a dozen people were being treated at the UC San Diego Medical Center Regional Burn Center for burns and smoke inhalation, including four fighters three in critical condition, officials said. Some of the injured were hikers, and others may be illegal immigrants.
One blaze devoured more than 5,000 acres in northern San Diego County and forced the evacuation of the community of Ramona, which has a population of about 36,000. Several structures were burned on the edge of town and sheriff’s deputies called residents to alert them the fire was approaching the city, San Diego sheriff’s Lt. Phil Brust said.
“The winds are up, it’s very, very dangerous conditions,” San Diego County spokeswoman Lesley Kirk said. “Fires are popping up all over the place.”
Guardsmen assigned to the border were forced to evacuate one of their barracks and troops were aiding evacuations, said Col. David Baldwin, director of operations for the California National Guard.
“The border is still secure, but agents are evacuating the threatened areas and the Guard is supporting that operation,” Baldwin said.
Qualcomm Stadium, home to the NFL’s Chargers, was added to a growing list of evacuation centers.
The fires were being fueled by stronger than usual Santa Ana winds roaring out of the region’s canyons, scientists said Monday. The powerful, dry winds typically blow between October and February and peak in December.
Typically, Santa Ana conditions last about a day, but the ones that flared up over the weekend were expected to last through Tuesday.
“For it to be this strong for so many days is unusual,” said Stuart Seto, a weather specialist with the National Weather Service in Oxnard.
In Saugus, north of Los Angeles, about 120 people spent the night on cots in the gymnasium of Saugus High School, principal Bill Bolde said.
Michele Beard fled her home with her husband, mother-in-law and three older children.
“It just lit up the whole mountainside fiery red,” said Beard, 48. “I had never seen anything like that so close before.”
The fire in Malibu had destroyed or damaged 16 structures, among them a church, homes and a historic castle, and was expected to burn for another two to three days, Los Angeles County Fire Chief P. Michael Freeman said. “There will literally be thousands of homes that will be threatened” until the blaze is out, he said.
Associated Press writers Elliot Spagat in San Diego and Chelsea J. Carter and Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles and AP Science Writer Alicia Chang in Los Angeles contributed to this report.
I have to go offline for a few hours.
West Hollywood is fine, but stay tuned to this thread and especially info from Burbank Karl...
DHS has it covered, I’m sure. ;-)
Of course you are aware that the particular flapjaw motormouth to whom you refer has long been a plague on FR. As I recall, this guy was (and probably still is) one of the more vocal screechers debunking the SPP/NAU as a valid threat.
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On News/Activism 10/21/2007 11:05:38 AM PDT · 102 of 1,319
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I will explain it to you since your knee jerk self riotousness blinds you to the painfully obvious. Many of these people are fashionable greens. Not quite so much fun for them to actually bear the consequences of their Green dogmas. Proper conservation techniques would prevent these sort of disasters but because of their rabid Green dogmas, they prevent anything that might spoil their “pristine” environment. Kind of a case of their chickens coming home to roost.
By the way, our particular fire ("Santiago Fire") has been labled an arson fire having three separate origination points. It is now a criminal investigation. I would pay good money to get my hands on the perp(s) for about 15 minutes, enough time to introduce him/them to my doberman.
is that miramar?
there was a looter in Canyon Country....white male adult....armed neighbor ran him off.
May my German Shepherd help?
This image made available by NASA shows plumes of smoke drifting westward from the Santa Clarita, Calif. and Castaic Lake area on Sunday, Oct. 21, 2007 at 2:50 p.m. Wildfires fanned by fierce desert winds consumed huge swaths of bone-dry Southern California on Monday, Oct. 22, 2007, burning buildings and forcing evacuations from Malibu to San Diego. San Clemente Island is seen at bottom right with Santa Catalina Island above and San Nicolas Island at center right. (AP Photo/NASA)
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, center, tours the burned site of Malibu Presbyterian Church in Malibu, Claif., Monday, Oct. 22, 2007. He is joined by Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca, left, and Los Angeles County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky, right. Wildfires are blazing across much of Southern California, prompting hundreds of thousands of evacuations. (AP Photo/Annie Wells, Pool)
y Soren Dayton Posted
Governor Schwarzenegger has announced a state of emergency. Thousands of Americans are losing their homes. They are certainly in my thoughts and prayers.
What about Hillary? Hollywood is throwing her a birthday party, just miles away:
Rob Reiner sang a rousing rendition of "Happy Birthday, Mrs. President" in honor of Senator Hillary Clinton at his Brentwood, California, home on Sunday evening.
Celebrities came to see to see Clinton, D-N.Y., and to celebrate in advance of the former first lady's 60th birthday. Although they didn't bring gifts, celebrities from Jamie Lee Curtis, Magic Johnson, Ted Danson, Bridget Moynihan and Chelsea Handler raised a half a million dollars for the Clinton campaign and enjoyed cocktails and hors deouvres in return.
Despite the massive fires miles away in Malibu, guests were greeted by men dressed in head to toe white, with lavender bow ties saying with "Welcome to the Reiner's," as they shuffled up and down the street parking Bentleys, Porsches, and BMWs.
I hope that the wind was blowing the right direction. I bet it's hard to get the ash and soot (of people's homes and dreams) off those "head to toe white" suits "with lavender bow ties."
Next time she's says she's fighting for Americans, remember that this is what she means.
Is there a fire in Europe?
I see on Fox some Brit guy talking about a fire.
I’ve just been mesmerized by the coverage.
Qualcomm stadium is now an emergency shelter. They need one that big.
Whole neighborhoods in the San Diego area are being allowed to burn. Not enough FF.
Now Arrowhead. It’s crazy.
It is a shame lainie.So sad.
Is there anybody here giving eyewitness accounts of the situation regarding the Witch Creek fire (Rancho Bernardo, etc)? My elderly mom is on the west side of that one (and a bit north—by Encinitas Ranch). I just saw the county supervisor say that they didn’t have enough firefighters, that it was zero percent contained, and they may not be able to stop it until it reaches the ocean. I’m trying to figure out if she’s threatened.
PING to calcowgirl’s question...please help if you can..!
Just saw a report on San Diego video feed about Rancho Bernardino. Dozens of homes lost, but no visible out of control fires right now. Some homes smoldering. Looks like the wind driven flames have gone further west. There are numerous hot spots however now within Rancho Bernardino so a flare up can happen just about anywhere there tonight.
Oops. That should read. Rancho Bernardo not Rancho Bernardino.
California wildfires at a glance
Major wildfires in California:
- Buckweed Fire: 27,500 acres in northeastern Los Angeles County south of Agua Dulce. 20 percent contained. Approximately 15,000 people and 5,500 homes evacuated. Twenty-five structures and two bridges destroyed. Three people injured. Nine hundred homes without power.
- Canyon Fire: 2,400 acres in coastal community of Malibu. Out of control. About 200 homes evacuated. Five homes destroyed as well as two commercial buildings, including a church. Ten homes damaged. No injuries reported.
- Harris Fire: 20,000 acres about 70 miles southeast of San Diego north of the border town of Tecate. Five percent contained. Unknown number of homes destroyed. One civilian killed, 15 people injured, including four firefighters.
- Witch Fire: 10,000 acres in northern San Diego County between Ramona and Santa Ysabel. Five percent contained. Unknown number of homes destroyed. No reports of injuries.
- Grass Valley Fire: More than 300 acres in Grass Valley area west of Lake Arrowhead in San Bernardino Mountains. Unknown number of homes destroyed, 1,500 homes threatened, several communities evacuated.
- Slide Fire: More than 300 acres in Green Valley area of San Bernardino Mountains. Four hundred homes threatened, several communities evacuated.
- Orange County Fire: 8,800 acres in Orange County east of Irvine. Thirty percent contained. No homes destroyed. Four minor injuries to firefighters.
- Ranch Fire: 29,000 acres near Piru in Ventura County. Ten percent contained. About 200 people evacuated. One homes destroyed and no injuries reported.
- Sedgewick Fire: 710 acres near Los Olivos in Santa Barbara County. Fifty percent contained. No evacuations. No homes destroyed and no reports of injuries.
“As I recall, this guy was (and probably still is) one of the more vocal screechers debunking the SPP/NAU as a valid threat.”
Yes, and illegal immigration is the Democrats fault, not Bush’s.
” would pay good money to get my hands on the perp(s) for about 15 minutes, enough time to introduce him/them to my doberman.
May my German Shepherd help?”
Just read your posting in more detail. She is west of Rancho Bernardo ? The news reporter asked a fire chief with a convoy of 5 to 6 engines where the open flames were in Rancho Bernardo. The fire Chief said he did not know and was trying to find them. Not much help for your situation, but obviously no one really knows the true situation of that area right now. Very fluid and tonight if the winds die down we could see fires going in random directions.
hundreds destroyed in Arrowhead.
Thanks, NR. I’ve been watching CBS. They’ve had pretty good coverage on San Diego so far but it doesn’t look encouraging down there.
Your second link must be real popular—windows is spining and spinning, but won’t connect, LOL.
Thanks BG. Any input is welcome!
I think CAluvdubya is in this area too.
Prayers for her!
CBS said at least 10 homes in Rcho Santa Fe were gone. They didn’t say if one of them was Parsky’s. ;-)
I just spoke to CAluvdubya and she and her family are OK, they evacuated to a friends house.
Just talked to a friend in Carlsbad. She said she is packing up the car, the dog and her MIL. Please say some prayers for her, her name is Claudia. Thank you so much.
West of Rancho Santa Fe (vs. Rcho Bernardo).
Lots of details here, but not much prediction.
My daughter called me from Cal Stae San Bernardino - they closed the campus and she and her roommates drown down to one of their parent’s house in Temecula. She said the smoke was so bad you couldn’t even see the mountains - and the campus is right up against the base of Arrowhead mountain! I was a little nervous, but she said it is much clearer now down in Temecula - they are between the fires now...
Oh, Great!!! :-)
I just saw the cars pouring out of the area on Highway 56 (major traffic).
250,000 officially evacuated. WOW!