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Massive Evacuation Ordered West Of I-15 Qualcomm Stadium Opened For Evacuees
NBC San Diego ^ | 10/22/2007

Posted on 10/22/2007 8:06:14 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper

SAN DIEGO -- With fire spreading quickly westward, San Diego County officials ordered the evacuation of a huge area east of Interstate 15 between Del Dios Highway and Highway 56 early Mon"This is the worst fire this county has ever seen -- worse than the Cedar Fire [of 2003]," Sheriff Bill Kolender said.

At a news conference shortly after 6 a.m., officials said fires had spread dramatically overnight, whipped by fierce Santa Ana winds. They said fire had jumped Interstate 15 at Lake Hodges and was burning in parts of Rancho Bernardo. Because of the explosive and unpredictable nature of the blazes, all residents living between Interstate 15 and Interstate 5 from Del Dios Highway in the north to Highway 56 in the south were told to begin evacuating.

"This fire is moving very quickly," San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders said. "Watch TV, listen to the radio and have your car prepared to leave."

Among the communities in the evacuation area are Rancho Sante Fe, Carmel Highlands, Rancho Bernardo, Del Mar Heights and Fairbanks Ranch and parts of Rancho Penasquitos.

Officials have opened Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley to handle the large number of evacuees.

Sanders asked everyone in San Diego County to minimize the use of cell phones to leave the airways free for the use of emergency personnel.day.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcsandiego.com ...


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KEYWORDS: evacuation; sandiego; wildfire; wildfires
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To: Quix

I am viewing local television and the City of Irvine is engulfed in thick brown smoke... a horrible sight.
Prayers for our Orange County FReepers.


201 posted on 10/22/2007 11:17:09 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Crosslinking to thread from Yesterday:

Live Thread: Wildfire threatens Pepperdine U., Malibu homes ( Celebs Homes...Mel Gibson...etc)
LA Times ^ | 9:35 AM PDT, October 21, 2007 | Associated Press

202 posted on 10/22/2007 11:17:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: La Enchiladita

PRAYERS INDEED.

Have had the TV now out in the carport and unconnected for last year or so.


203 posted on 10/22/2007 11:18:51 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: La Enchiladita

It’s pretty damn smokey here too in Brea (from Irvine.) Hopefully some nut doesn’t set Brea Canyon on fire.


204 posted on 10/22/2007 11:19:25 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Slapshot68
Do you think that there will be looting, raping and pillaging inside of Qualcomm?

No, and why would you even think such a thing could happen in this country?

205 posted on 10/22/2007 11:20:07 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: ArmstedFragg

The neighborhood where we lost six houses was on the north side of Hodges. The fire was running down the riverbed for a while, but this latest wind change probably will take it in the back door of RSF. It’s also busily making its way up Black Mountain halfway between RSF and the 15.
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Got it now,,,still lookin’ for maps,,,


206 posted on 10/22/2007 11:21:19 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: La Enchiladita
I am viewing local television and the City of Irvine is engulfed in thick brown smoke... a horrible sight. Prayers for our Orange County FReepers.

Awful. Is this a fire of unprecedented magnitude? Will keep praying.

207 posted on 10/22/2007 11:21:52 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Quix
All San Diego County schools closed tomorrow (well, those that weren't closed today will be closed until further notice). Some schools closing now. My son's, and daughter's, closing at noon.

The change, just in a few hours...I looked at my son's school website just an hour ago, and there was no plan to close. The wind died down in SOuth COunty, the area is smoky and ashy.

208 posted on 10/22/2007 11:21:55 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty (Liberalism: Someone craps their pants, and we all have to wear diapers....)
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To: La Enchiladita

San Diego is in big trouble.
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All the way to the coast...


209 posted on 10/22/2007 11:23:08 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Mrs.Liberty
All San Diego County schools closed tomorrow (well, those that weren't closed today will be closed until further notice). Some schools closing now. My son's, and daughter's, closing at noon.

I think that's a good thing. I would rather have my children at home with me with all of this going on. Stay safe!

210 posted on 10/22/2007 11:24:09 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Mrs.Liberty

WOW THX


211 posted on 10/22/2007 11:26:55 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: trumandogz

“Do you think that there will be looting, raping and pillaging inside of Qualcomm?

No, and why would you even think such a thing could happen in this country?”

Katrina ring a bell?


212 posted on 10/22/2007 11:29:03 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Rennes Templar

An interstate highway, including the total width of its easement, is about 10X wider than any common firebreak, ad it didn’t stop this monster.

So, what would you suggest, denuding a mile-wide swath of Earth?

Have you thought about how you might address the soil erosion issues involved with having so much bare dirt; both by water and wind?

Not to be harsh, just to point out that these things are more complex than they seem to be, and, quite often, solutions come with their own set of new problems. If we’re lucky, the ratio is 1:1 and we trade a difficult problem for an easier one. Most of the time, we’re not that lucky.


213 posted on 10/22/2007 11:29:35 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: Strzelec
"I’m up in Carlsbad...."

My sister-in-law is in Carlsbad (just east of I5)...she's a bit freaked and panicking to some extent...

I've been attempting to reassure her that the worst looks south, and unless the wind changes, she should be spared....also to keep on top of the news and be prepared to leave if requested...

Please be so kind as to ping me if you believe things are taking a turn for the worst in your area....

Thanks ahead of time...
214 posted on 10/22/2007 11:30:35 AM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: Shion
My family is in Poway, and they were evacuated. My little brother works for the FD in San Marcos... I was able to talk to him for about 20 seconds... I can try and keep people apprised as to what's going on... I know where Pomerado Hospital is... my family used to live in Scripps, not too far from there... They were evacuated in 2003 as well. I still can't reach some of them right now...

I'm in St. Louis... so I know as much as anyone else not in the thick of it.

215 posted on 10/22/2007 11:31:16 AM PDT by erikm88
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To: SelectiveJNJ
You all are far too sensitive and are certainly taking my comment out of context.

You made a stupid comment and got the appropriately caustic responses. You had it coming; you'd be better off apologizing.

216 posted on 10/22/2007 11:31:24 AM PDT by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: Abathar

My guess would be that some schools are being used as evacuation centers. In that case, kids may be staying at their own school or going to another school building, but classes can’t stay in session when a building is being used as an evacuation center.

Also a lot of staff and some students at schools which aren’t in immediate danger, would have to travel through dangerous areas to get there, or are busy evacuating their own homes. And school buses generally cover a very large area, with the same buses being used for high schools, middle schools, and elementary schools in a staggered schedule, and with drivers often coming to work from locations outside the area they drive in.


217 posted on 10/22/2007 11:34:51 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: erikm88

Here’s a pretty good blog that’s keeping up on the greater San Diego area fires.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/fireblog/


218 posted on 10/22/2007 11:36:25 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: Slapshot68
Katrina ring a bell?

Well of course Katrina rings a bell. But can you cite any valid reports of rapes took place in the Superdome during the aftermath of Katrina?

The reports of rape inside the Superdome were rumor and not fact.

219 posted on 10/22/2007 11:37:39 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: La Enchiladita; All

Another . . . Quixy . . . . type . . . request . . .

Please keep, as you are moved and able conviently to do . . .

please keep a kind of oversight eye to what you are doing in this situation . . .

I believe these SITUATIONS will be . . . very educational precursors to other massively devastating situations looming on the horizon . . .

and, personally,. I believe FREEPERS CAN AND WOULD DO WELL TO LEARN ALL WE CAN AT THESE MOMENTS so we can be at least a little ahead of the ROP and globalist idiots in their tyrannical moves in such situations.

IF NOTHING ELSE, WE SHOULD BE AHEAD OF THE PACK IN HELPING FELLOW FREEPERS, CONSERVATIVES, AUTHENTIC CHRISTIANS . . .

just a thought . . . a modest proposal . . .


220 posted on 10/22/2007 11:39:35 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

SF, I’ve been trying to figure out if my brother’s family is in the evacuation area. I’m nearly sure it is. I’ve found I-5, I-15, and Lake Hodges on mapquest, but can’t find state route 56. Do you happen to know whether it’s known by another name?


221 posted on 10/22/2007 11:41:41 AM PDT by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: American Quilter

Had the same problem...I believe that 56 is the Ted Williams Parkway...


223 posted on 10/22/2007 11:43:10 AM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: trumandogz

” Well of course Katrina rings a bell. But can you cite any valid reports of rapes took place in the Superdome during the aftermath of Katrina?

The reports of rape inside the Superdome were rumor and not fact.”

It was a joke. My comment was to highlight the difference in the human element between the two cities.

And just because nothing was REPORTED, doesn’t mean crimes didn’t happen.


224 posted on 10/22/2007 11:44:42 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Quix

Mandatory evacuations all of Rancho Santa Fe.


225 posted on 10/22/2007 11:44:56 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: PigRigger

That is correct, Ted Williams Pkwy = 56.

It’s 56 from the I-15 West, and Ted Williams Pkwy from the I-15 East.


226 posted on 10/22/2007 11:45:01 AM PDT by Shion (Hunter 2008! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

They’re different fires. The University fire is on the hills above it... started about 3:30 this morning. Funny thing is, I just saw something on the tube to the effect that residents of the area could return so I’m really confused now.

To cap it off, some idiot took it upon himself to pull the manual pull station for our fire alarm system. Guess he’d decided to evacuate and didn’t want to be the only one. Piercing enunciator and bells ringing. Normally the maintenance crew would come shut it off, but they disappeared at 10 today. What fun!!


227 posted on 10/22/2007 11:45:51 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: American Quilter

SR 56 is also known as Ted Williams Freeway


229 posted on 10/22/2007 11:46:36 AM PDT by erikm88
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To: American Quilter

56 is the former Ted Williams Parkway


230 posted on 10/22/2007 11:47:19 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I’m in the NM Mountains, and we’re way past due.

Was up in Cedar Crest yesterday -- enjoyed the first flurries of the season coming down! Means we beat the odds for another year.

231 posted on 10/22/2007 11:47:53 AM PDT by CedarDave (The only access Hillary-care will bring is access to a waiting list.)
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To: CedarDave

We had some flurries yesterday too. But unless it’s raining or there’s a foot of snow on the ground, I don’t relax all the way.


233 posted on 10/22/2007 11:49:10 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim ("mountainous pomposity and cloying spirituality")
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To: PigRigger

I see. If that’s true, then my brother’s house is only about 200 yards south of the evacuation area. Thanks very much. Prayers up for my family, as well as all of the other people in danger.


234 posted on 10/22/2007 11:50:09 AM PDT by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: justa-hairyape

THX THX BIG


235 posted on 10/22/2007 11:50:41 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: sandyeggo

GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THX THX THX


236 posted on 10/22/2007 11:51:31 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: justa-hairyape

Del Mar being evacuated ! Motels filling up. Evacuation centers filling up.


237 posted on 10/22/2007 11:51:34 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Southack; forester; calcowgirl; Amerigomag
Logging roads, when placed strategically, can double a natural firebreak as well as provide quick access for heavy fire-fighting equipment to ingress into the fight.

BWA HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!!!

Just try and get a water quality permit from Arnold's bureaucrats to put in a fire access road. Besides, with embers spotting for over a mile a road is a cruel joke for a fire break. Hell, the QLG fuel breaks in Plumas County were over a hundred feet wide and proved inadequate.

Arnold is a TOTAL flake on forest policy, echoing whatever proves politically expedient:

Sierra Club Applauds Gov. Schwarzenegger’s Move to Protect California’s Roadless Forests

SCHWARZENEGGER WON’T PROTECT ROADLESS AREAS IN CALIFORNIA

Mary Statement by Mary Wells, the Executive Director of the California Wilderness Coalition:

Governor Schwarzenegger is a true hero today. The petition to save all of California’s unprotected roadless areas in our National Forests is a giant step toward the permanent protection of California’s last remaining wilderness.

...all of this was pioneered in the Appalachian mountains of Alabama (and yes, we routinely get 40mph winds in the Appalachian chain).

Fuel moisture content, water availability, and terrain in Alabama are nothing like summer in California mountains. Nor do they have the kind of fire adapted chaparral found here.

This is why the forest fires of Alabama that made the news back in 1940 are no longer newsworthy, because scientific forest management reduced 50,000 acre wildfires down to 100 acre brushfires...and that’s what is attempting to be copied by California (at least, where the enviro-wackos haven’t halted such efforts).

The NRDC wrote Arnold's environmental plan for him. They're the people behind the current, counterproductive, and unscientific TMDL water quality regulations that have virtually killed logging in California. Everybody in the business knows that California's forests are overstocked. Even with the Healthy Forest Initiative the Bush Administration couldn't get it done here either and Arnold helped the RICOnuts make sure of it.

You asked for this mess with your craven support for Arnold in the recall. Now own it. Just because that lying SOB says he's supporting adequate fuel management, doesn't mean that it works out that way. He's just covering his butt.

238 posted on 10/22/2007 11:51:34 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: sandyeggo; Shion

Thank you, sandyeggo and Shion. I hope my brother and his family are already out of there, and I hope the fire doesn’t reach their house.


239 posted on 10/22/2007 11:51:36 AM PDT by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: sandyeggo

Did you hear about this one?

http://fireblog.signonsandiego.com/

Parts of Solana Beach, west of I-5, ordered voluntarily evacuated
11:40 a.m.
Solana Beach’s Fire Department officials are going door to door on 12 streets to ask residents to voluntarily evacuate. The streets are all west of Interstate 5. Fire officials said they are concerned that fire could move through the San Elijo Lagoon area into coastal neighborhoods.


241 posted on 10/22/2007 11:52:22 AM PDT by KylaStarr (..keeping watch in east county SD)
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To: KylaStarr

I didn’t hear that one, but I just heard mandatory evacuations for Del Mar and Rancho Santa Fe.

Seems like only the Pacific Ocean will stop these fires.


242 posted on 10/22/2007 11:53:27 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: PigRigger

I’m north of the airport. Based on latest info, if she lives south of Batiquitos Lagoon I would suggest she listen to KOGO AM 600 or watch KUSI (cable channel (?) for info.

Lastest as of 1152 - officials request voluntary evacuations of areas of Solana Beach west of I5.


243 posted on 10/22/2007 11:53:29 AM PDT by Strzelec
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To: KylaStarr

We used to live in Solana Beach, it’s a beautiful place. I hope these fires don’t burn to the sea.


244 posted on 10/22/2007 11:54:06 AM PDT by pbear8 (Padre Pio please pray for Tony Snow)
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To: KylaStarr

Solana Beach?!!?!? They expect it to move that far west?!


245 posted on 10/22/2007 11:55:15 AM PDT by erikm88
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To: SandyInSeattle

I fear you are right.


246 posted on 10/22/2007 11:55:19 AM PDT by KylaStarr (..keeping watch in east county SD)
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To: justa-hairyape
Del Mar being evacuated ! Motels filling up. Evacuation centers filling up.

Nowhere to go but due north, up the 5.

248 posted on 10/22/2007 11:55:35 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: erikm88

Evidently so. Del Mar is mandatory evacuations now.

This is a wicked fire.


249 posted on 10/22/2007 11:56:36 AM PDT by KylaStarr (..keeping watch in east county SD)
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To: KylaStarr

This is scary. I lived in So. Orange County for several years and worked in San Diego at MCAS Miramar... I traveled the “5” every day. That these fires are traveling from the 15 all the way to the 5 is beyond my comprehension.


250 posted on 10/22/2007 11:58:20 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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