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GOP Governors Grit Teeth and Raise Taxes (2003 Huckabee Archives)
Wash. Post ^ | Dale Russakoff and Edward Walsh

Posted on 10/22/2007 9:28:06 AM PDT by pissant

Idaho Gov. Dirk Kempthorne, a proudly conservative Republican, was determined to solve his state's fiscal crisis without raising taxes. Last year, he pulled it off, but the pain was everywhere: large layoffs and tuition increases at state colleges; reduced child-care subsidies for parents among the working poor; an end to dental care for adults on Medicaid.

This year, facing another 10 percent budget gap, Kempthorne said these were his only options left: Close the state parks; end state aid to public health clinics; abolish state support for community colleges and student financial aid; cut public education; slash Medicaid and programs for seniors and veterans.

(snip)

When Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) of Arkansas earlier proposed a sales tax increase to help close that state's budget shortfall, the idea received an icy reception from lawmakers. So when Huckabee went before those lawmakers earlier this month to deliver his State of the State address, he told them, in effect, he didn't care whether they adopted his proposal or came up with their own, but that Arkansas needed to raise more money to balance the budget.

"And if you deem that all new revenue sources, your proposals or mine, are indeed dead on arrival, then you'll be saying that teacher pay increases are dead, scholarships are dead, medicine for the elderly is dead, that long [prison] sentences are dead, and that we'll have to have a massive early release of thousands of inmates from the system," Huckabee said. "To be blunt, our problems aren't that simple, and the answers aren't either."

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Well, at least he did not say it was for the 'children'
1 posted on 10/22/2007 9:28:06 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

A Republican is never so brave or admirable as when he is raising taxes... At least according to the MSM.


2 posted on 10/22/2007 9:30:53 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: pissant
Any Republican who pulls the “padlock the parks” routine is off my list. It is the oldest trick in the tax-raiser’s book, and one of the most disingenuous.
3 posted on 10/22/2007 9:33:12 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

It apparently works. The Values Voters though the was the cat’s meow.


4 posted on 10/22/2007 9:34:28 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

The Values Voters do not care so much about taxes. They keep a different list.


5 posted on 10/22/2007 9:35:26 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: pissant

Dude, I’m still moving to WY instead of ID or MT because of taxes. I vote with my feet.


6 posted on 10/22/2007 9:35:55 AM PDT by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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To: Paladin2

I hear Wyoming is 140 degrees in the Summertime and covered by 20 feet of snow in the Wintertime, and has flies as big as crows, that carry off small unattended chidren.

At least that’s what all my friends in Wyoming say...


7 posted on 10/22/2007 9:37:24 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

They claim they do care. But Huck has been giving him the “i’m a tax cutter” line of baloney as well. They believe him, even when he claims he’s gonna get tough on illegals. LOL


8 posted on 10/22/2007 9:37:45 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Paladin2

That’s the land of Brokeback Mountain, according to hollywood. LOL


9 posted on 10/22/2007 9:40:37 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

So Huck had to brow beat a Democrat legislature into raising taxes.


10 posted on 10/22/2007 9:43:08 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (FDT 2008, Security, Prosperity, Unity)
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To: pissant
They claim they do care.

You know how every Democrat demonstration starts about one thing, and then every stupid little interest group horns in until the whole thing collapses of it's own weight on internal conflicts? Same deal here.

The Values Voters care about one thing a great deal. They care about a few other things, but not quite as much.

Taxes and fiscal conservatism are way down on the list.

11 posted on 10/22/2007 9:43:43 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: pissant
It apparently works. The Values Voters though the was the cat’s meow.

Fiscal cons will bolt. Huckabee is as divisive as Rudy.

12 posted on 10/22/2007 9:44:01 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (FDT 2008, Security, Prosperity, Unity)
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To: All

Hucksterbee is a fraud...a tax raising illegal-alien loving liberal.

The Value Voters need to recheck their “values”


13 posted on 10/22/2007 9:44:38 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: NeoCaveman

Who’d of thunk it?


14 posted on 10/22/2007 9:46:00 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
Who’d of thunk it?

Surely he was forced into it by circumstances beyond his control, kicking and screaming, etc...

15 posted on 10/22/2007 9:48:11 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

You should see their “skeeter’s”, Grizzly Bears and Wolves.

Know how to tell a cowboy from Wyoming from a cowboy from Texas? The cowboy from Texas has $h!t on his boots and an cowboy from Wyoming has wool in his zipper.


16 posted on 10/22/2007 9:49:07 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: pissant

Teton County has the largest per capita (or household, I don’t quite remember) US total tax (income, death, personal corporate, etc.) in the whole US. Other than Teton County, WY is not too likely BM oriented. ;-)


17 posted on 10/22/2007 9:49:47 AM PDT by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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To: gridlock

I’ve found that to be true and would recommend that no one from CA, OR, MA, NY, etc. could possibly survive there. Heck, I’m going to be homeless when I get there.


18 posted on 10/22/2007 9:51:54 AM PDT by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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To: Paladin2

Yep. That’s what my Wyoming friends keep telling me. So I guess I will have to stay here in New Jersey...


19 posted on 10/22/2007 9:53:00 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; NeoCaveman; gridlock; Calpernia; WalterSkinner

From: The Washington Times
Date: May 17, 2006

Huckabee ‘serious’ about presidency

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Mr. Huckabee said he approved of virtually everything in the Monday night speech on immigration by Mr. Bush, including his National Guard and guest-worker initiatives, even though that agreement put Mr. Huckabee at odds, he said, with some fellow conservative Republicans.

“I do believe some of it is driven by racism or nativism,” he said of the opposition within his party to Mr. Bush’s view that illegal aliens should not be deported but rather fined and eventually allowed U.S. citizenship.

“It’s not amnesty to make people pay for breaking the law,” Mr. Huckabee said.

As president, he said, he would have no problem working on common goals with fellow Arkansan Bill Clinton or with other Democrats for that matter.

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On the environment, he said: “We have done more to abuse than use the planet.” He added that it’s better for Americans “to act as if global warming” is a scientific fact because there is “no downside in conserving our resources.”

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-145938811.html


20 posted on 10/22/2007 9:54:52 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Pawlenty pulled it off in MN and nobody suffered at all. He stood up to democrats and RINOS who howled for giant increases.


21 posted on 10/22/2007 9:57:08 AM PDT by DManA
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To: pissant

Bump!

A flashback from one of Giuliani’s “Fruitless Five”


22 posted on 10/22/2007 9:57:53 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: gridlock

I don’t think I would stay in New Wave Oh Hersey. Maybe some more could be convinced to move to those socialist havens like Venezuela, Zimbabwe and Cuba.


23 posted on 10/22/2007 9:59:06 AM PDT by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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To: pissant

Is he trying to antagonize us? Calling us racists, looking forward to gleefully working with Bill Clinton, treating global warming as real because “there is no downside” (to expanding government power)...

Huckabee 2008: for the children - if you don’t support me, you are probably a racist, and women, children, and minorities will be hit hardest.


24 posted on 10/22/2007 10:00:25 AM PDT by M203M4 (The Tancredo, Thompson, and Hunter wing of the party - preventing the Rs from Whigging out.)
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To: pissant
On the environment, he said: “We have done more to abuse than use the planet.” He added that it’s better for Americans “to act as if global warming” is a scientific fact because there is “no downside in conserving our resources.”

That is a Kiss Of Death, right there.

The Democrats are not interested in us conserving our resources. They are interested in the dismantling of our industrial economy. If we "act as if global warming is a scientific fact", we are giving them license to do whatever they think needs to be done to save the planet.

It is not just the camel's nose, but the entire FReepin' camel standing in the middle of the damn tent.

This kind of attitude is just too cute by half. If Huckabee is willing to base national energy policy on a convenient lie, what else is he willing to lie about?

25 posted on 10/22/2007 10:01:26 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Paladin2
I don’t think I would stay in New Wave Oh Hersey.

I just gotta make my pile, then I'll get out. Everybody in New Jersey is saying pretty much the same thing.

Of course, an fortunately for the rest of the country, that piling-up process can take a lifetime. That pile never does seem to be quite tall enough...

26 posted on 10/22/2007 10:04:24 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: pissant
Who’d of thunk it?

When he called the Club for Growth the Club for Greed, I knew he was bad news.

I know Rudy is no so con but atleast he doesn't attack em and name call em.

27 posted on 10/22/2007 10:06:38 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (FDT 2008, Security, Prosperity, Unity)
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To: gridlock
Any Republican who pulls the “padlock the parks” routine is off my list. It is the oldest trick in the tax-raiser’s book, and one of the most disingenuous.

Yup. They always cut parks, schools, fire and police FIRST. Whatever is the most visible and painful. They never fire the armies of unionized fat-assed useless eaters in the civil service bureaucracy.

-ccm

28 posted on 10/22/2007 10:07:21 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: pissant
..no doubt in my mind now

Huck is the darling of the "establishment" religious right--I still am not convinced he is that popular with the average religious conservative...

29 posted on 10/22/2007 10:11:23 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: M203M4; Calpernia; All

Some detect bigotry in immigration debate.

From: St. Louis Post-Dispatch (St. Louis, MO)
Date: June 4, 2006

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Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, a potential Republican presidential candidate in 2008, told a group of reporters here recently “that some anti-immigration Republicans are guilty of demagoguery and racism.”

“I’m not saying everybody who is very, very angry (about immigration) is a racist. I want to be very clear about that,” he said. “But I’ve had conversations with people, and it became evident what they really didn’t like is that people didn’t look like them, didn’t talk like them and didn’t celebrate the holidays they do, and they just had a problem with it.”

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada raised the issue when legislators took up an amendment to the Senate immigration bill it approved last month to mandate that English be the nation’s official language.

“While the intent may not be there, I really believe this amendment is racist,” Reid said on the Senate floor. “I think it is directed basically to people who speak Spanish.”

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-146605348.html

Hey, at least he is in tune with Dingy Harry....


30 posted on 10/22/2007 10:11:26 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: WalterSkinner

Yep. I guess they are unaware of his history, or don’t mind being labeled as racists.


31 posted on 10/22/2007 10:12:13 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Good job shedding the light on this guy.

I suspect you’ll now get swarmed by Huck supporters or as I call them Huckaberries.


32 posted on 10/22/2007 10:14:24 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (FDT 2008, Security, Prosperity, Unity)
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To: pissant

So, basically what you’re saying/doing is that Hunter is going nowhere and you’re trying to tear down one of the remaining credible alternatives to Rudy and Mitt.


33 posted on 10/22/2007 10:16:05 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: NeoCaveman; Paperdoll

Unlike Thompson, who I do not support (see tagline), at least I understand why others DO support him. Huck, as someone earlier quipped, was ‘more slippery than a greased pig’


34 posted on 10/22/2007 10:16:26 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Corin Stormhands

It’s his record and words, not mine.


35 posted on 10/22/2007 10:17:33 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

I admire your support for your candidate.

My anti-Huckaberry comes from not wanting a 5 man race, as Rudy911 would win that.

I like Fred, I’d settle for Mitt, if Hunter gets the nomination I’d be shocked but pleased but the one thing that scares me is a Rudy911/Huckabee combo. The only thing they agree on is banning smoking.


36 posted on 10/22/2007 10:21:48 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (FDT 2008, Security, Prosperity, Unity)
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To: pissant
It’s his record and words, not mine.

Never said it wasn't. Just still fascinated at the people who think the way to build up their own candidate is to trash the others.

37 posted on 10/22/2007 10:24:14 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: Corin Stormhands

What else are we to judge a man on? His words, votes and deeds in office are pretty much it. If we base it on current rhetoric, we would have 7 Ronald Reagans and one Ron Paul.


38 posted on 10/22/2007 10:26:14 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Not my point. But carry on.


39 posted on 10/22/2007 10:33:13 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: NeoCaveman

I do not think Huckabee helps either Fred or Hunter with his presence. All he needs to do is bite his lip and say “I feel your pain” and the mushy conservatives will start swooning.


40 posted on 10/22/2007 10:35:03 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Huckabee is the compassionate conservative. I have a severe case of compassionate conservative derangement syndrome.

That and all he does is split the vote, helping the New York mayor in a dress....


41 posted on 10/22/2007 10:36:40 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (FDT 2008, Security, Prosperity, Unity)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Than what is your point. I have posted literally scores of articles on Hunter, his record, speeches, press releases, etc.

Do you not want to know Huck’s weak sister record?


42 posted on 10/22/2007 10:39:39 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Lemme see, now. When was Dirk Kempthorne governor of my current home state? Dirk Kempthorne took the oath of office as the 49th Secretary of the U.S. Department of the Interior on May 26, 2006. Prior to this date Kempthorne served nearly two terms as Governor of Idaho, elected first in 1998 and reelected in 2002. C. L. Otter has been governor since Jan. 1, 2007. During the interim Jim Risch served as Governor.


43 posted on 10/22/2007 10:54:55 AM PDT by Elsiejay (,)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Never said it wasn't. Just still fascinated at the people who think the way to build up their own candidate is to trash the others.

The facts are friendly.

We need to know all we can about each and every candidate. We should not be overlooking anything because we are trying to support "our guy".

Huckabee supporters should be talking about his Padlock the Parks trick, and explaining it. But they should not be ignoring it or attacking others for bringing it up. Thompson supporters should not shy away from talking about their guy's support for CFR. They need to explain how it is not a disqualification to the rest of us. Rudy supporters... Well, they should just run and hide!

44 posted on 10/22/2007 11:00:37 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: pissant

The REAL problem for Idaho.... and every
other state in the Union!

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_research6f04


45 posted on 10/22/2007 11:01:51 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: pissant

>Unlike Thompson, who I do not support (see tagline), at least I understand why others DO support him. Huck, as someone earlier quipped, was ‘more slippery than a greased pig’.<

Hey pissant! Trying to get a rise out of me? :) The more I see of Huckabee, the less I think of him. I’ll even go so far as to say Huck is a honey coated phony. The greased pig comment could also describe Mitt Romney.

Let’s see, in my book that leaves what you see is what you get, tell it like it is, no fluffy stuff, straight shooter and right on, Rep. Duncan Hunter! Faux polls be hanged! There is only one number one! See MY tag line. :)


46 posted on 10/22/2007 11:02:21 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: pissant

What particular courage or intelligence does it take to raise taxes?

That’s always the easy way, the coward’s way, and is equally true if done by a Dimocrat or a Republican.


47 posted on 10/22/2007 11:04:58 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: gridlock

As to the 7 candidates...
The only serious question to consider at
this point is...WHO is going to drop out
of the race between now and February, 2008.
The first primary will be held in January.

You might want to keep this list on hand:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/


48 posted on 10/22/2007 11:08:50 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: Paperdoll

I’m with you, doll. But this Huckabee ‘surge’ from starry eyed values voters needs to be nipped in the butt.


49 posted on 10/22/2007 11:10:11 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Somehow we always hear about the terrible pain experienced by the taxeaters, whenever their benefits don’t rise quickly enough, but seldom about the pain experienced by taxpayers, as they are robbed of more and more of their hard-earned money every year.


50 posted on 10/22/2007 11:19:17 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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