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Reviews Are in on Thompson's Debate Performance
Campaigns & Elections ^ | October 21, 2007 | Karen Hanretty

Posted on 10/22/2007 9:59:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

"Helped Themselves a Lot Tonight: Fred Thompson"

- National Review

"We had been waiting for any speech, any debate appearance, any event with Thompson to be a 'wow, that was fantastic.' Well, tonight was that moment we've been waiting for."

- National Review

"Fred Thompson delivers the first blow..."

- ABC News Political Radar

"Fred going on offense."

- Politico

"Thompson revved up."

- Time

"Kudos to Fred Thompson for coming out swinging tonight."

- Townhall

"He [Fred] ought to get serious points for guts."

- National Review

"'If a man can do all that and be lazy, I recommend it to everybody,' Thompson said to loud applause. Nice comeback."

- Politico

"That was a really, really strong response from Thompson" [Reference to final question]

- NBC

"Fred Thompson did quite well. Once again, he ended strong."

- Townhall

"Thompson's ability to slug it out with Giuliani, coupled with overall improvement in the quality of his answers, makes him one of tonight's winners."

- Powerline

"But if this debate is remembered at all, it will probably be because Fred Thompson, arguably a sleeping giant, seemed to wake up."

- Powerline


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Tennessee
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To: Harrius Magnus

You forgot the time he played a racist bigot on that show Wiseguy.


51 posted on 10/22/2007 10:36:06 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Ron Paul hit the nail on the head for medical insurance and the problems everyone is encountering (docs and patients). He’s shrill and I’d have to put cotton in my ears through every State of the Union address, and he sounds like the village idiot on other issues — BUT HE’S OUR IDIOT and the first guy who takes a shot at him will have to duck my ire.

1. It'd be the shortest State of the Union address; "I BELIEEEEEEVE!!!"

2. It's somehow refreshing to know that some of us on FR are willing to vote for a man, not because he's the village idiot, but because he's OUR IDIOT! That's really Kool (in an 'Aid' sort of way) :)

3. Ire away! I need a laugh.

52 posted on 10/22/2007 10:36:14 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: Resolute Conservative

Several of the candidates did really well last night, better than I’ve seen them before [like McCain]. Made good points. Rudy sounded likeable and joked, but he did not answer a direct question.

I prefer to think who helped themselves, and who didn’t help themselves, rather than think who won or didn’t win.

I support Fred and am enthused at how he did, but it was good to hear some good points from some of the other candidates. It seemed that a lot of it was centered around things Fred has been saying on the campaign trail, which was good. He framed the debate.


53 posted on 10/22/2007 10:36:49 AM PDT by daylilly
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To: LRS
LOL! He also had Sheriff Taylor to back him up when he got in over his head!

Yeah, and RP has Alex Jones :)

54 posted on 10/22/2007 10:37:28 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: bcsco
Go, FRED!


55 posted on 10/22/2007 10:37:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bcsco
:)
56 posted on 10/22/2007 10:40:14 AM PDT by LRS
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To: trisham

Good photo. But, somebody should wake McCain up...


57 posted on 10/22/2007 10:41:00 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: trisham

#55...Who are all those little people standing next to Fred Thompson?


58 posted on 10/22/2007 10:41:17 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Thats pretty much how I see it as well.


59 posted on 10/22/2007 10:42:19 AM PDT by Badeye ('Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....")
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To: steve86

Of course he came off better last night.. he died
on the vine the first time out. But I have to
tell you, I’m getting pretty tired of hearing
him iterate the resume of his work ethic.
None of the other candidates are going back
45 years to fill us in on a teen-age marriage
and fatherhood. NTL, I’m willing to give
him the boot-strap education/ambition. And,
if the powers that be decide he’s the GOP
candidate, I’ll vote for him. But then, I’ll
vote for any Republican other than McCain
or Paul.

http://www.infoplease.com/biography/var/fredthompson.html


60 posted on 10/22/2007 10:42:57 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: mimaw
I was hoping to see Fred step up and he did last night, but when I learned he voted with the trial lawyers and against the doctors he lost my vote. I can’t support a candidate who supports legalized extortion.

So Fred lost your support....ok....which one of the other candidates did he lose it to?

61 posted on 10/22/2007 10:43:36 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: Sola Veritas; All
This Mike Huckabee? http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/01/arkansas_govern.php

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/05/huckabee_some_c.html

The one who calls anti-amnesty proponents “racists?” No thanks!

62 posted on 10/22/2007 10:44:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Security * Unity * Prosperity | Fred08.com)
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To: ZULU

IMHO Hunter could have done better at the debate last night. They asked him questions that he could have taken in a different direction, which could help him break out. He’s stuck in the grove on illegal immigration. I think it was Brit challenged him on that. Illegal immigration is an important issue, but there are also other issues that are just as important. He doesn’t have much that he wants to talk about. Immigration and China trade issues mostly. He isn’t dissapointing on what he does say, but there needs to be more.


63 posted on 10/22/2007 10:44:54 AM PDT by daylilly
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To: ZULU

Thompson is not interested in VP.


64 posted on 10/22/2007 10:45:30 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Beagle8U
Who are all those little people standing next to Fred Thompson?

**************

LOL! Nobodies. :)

65 posted on 10/22/2007 10:46:24 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Great photo:

Rudy = again with the sh*t eating grin

Mitt = I am the phlegm phlagm man

Fred = I sure p3wned them tonight, yeehawwwww

McCain = please help me Dr. Kevorkian


66 posted on 10/22/2007 10:49:50 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: trisham

OK, I thought perhaps he was visiting a studio that was doing one of those shows about dwarfs.


67 posted on 10/22/2007 10:49:57 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Ron Paul hit the nail on the head for medical insurance and the problems everyone is encountering (docs and patients). He’s shrill and I’d have to put cotton in my ears through every State of the Union address, and he sounds like the village idiot on other issues — BUT HE’S OUR IDIOT and the first guy who takes a shot at him will have to duck my ire.

You know what I like about Ron Paul? He's the one guy running who would have the guts to tell us the truth about what's going on at Area 51!

68 posted on 10/22/2007 10:50:00 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Libertarianism is applied autism)
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To: steve86
Thompson wasn't a whole lot different this time from last. Both times he did what he needed to do. If he stays on course he will win the Republican nomination.

All this obsession about who best projects energy, likability, and command of the issues is monumentally beside the point. The important lesson of the last two debates is that Thompson is the only serious guy in the race who is selling what Republican’s want to buy. He’s selling it quite well enough so it isn’t hard to predict that most of them will buy it when the time comes to make a real purchasing decision.

Romney is selling an ersatz knockoff of what Republicans want to buy. Unless he can learn to fake sincerity more convincingly he’s toast.

McCain, Giuliani, and Huckabee are selling something else entirely (statism in one of it’s infinite variations). No matter how quickly and smoothly these guys talk, there is no disguising the fact that they are saying the wrong things to win a Republican presidential nomination or to unify the GOP coalition for next fall. This gets clearer with each debate.

Given his place in the field, Thompson wins whenever he debates. Anyone who tells you different is spinning like the proverbial dervish.

69 posted on 10/22/2007 10:52:20 AM PDT by fluffdaddy
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To: HerrBlucher
Interesting body language here:


70 posted on 10/22/2007 10:54:39 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ejonesie22
"But but but... He still looks old..."

But his wife doesn't!
LOL!

71 posted on 10/22/2007 10:55:43 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Beagle8U
I thought perhaps he was visiting a studio that was doing one of those shows about dwarfs.

***************

In a manner of speaking, I guess he was. :)

72 posted on 10/22/2007 10:55:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bcsco
Sorry, dearheart, I won’t be voting for Mr. Paul, but I give credit where credit is due. Yes, I believe he’d be the one guy who would give us the “truth” about Area 51, and I also admire his stance on the Constitution. Deep down inside, I also admire his federalist mentality, but times being what they are, I don’t think we’ll be able to go back to the dream that was.
73 posted on 10/22/2007 10:56:24 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Redbob

That will make you look old...

But always with a smile...


74 posted on 10/22/2007 10:57:17 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: LRS

“The name “Barney Fife” kept popping into my mind as I watched him last night...”

It was “Pee-Wee Herman”...


75 posted on 10/22/2007 10:57:37 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: mimaw

Before you blindly believe what another candidate says about a rival, or ignore Thompson’s response about tort reform, read the facts:

* Legal Reform: Supported legal reform measures with a significant interstate nexus.
o
o Supported Product Liability Reform Measures.
o Voted For “Securities Litigation Uniform Standards Act.”
o Voted For “Private Securities Litigation Reform Act” And Voted To Override President Clinton’s Veto.
o Supported “Y2K Readiness And Responsibility Act” Conference Report.

Supported Passage Of The Republican “Patients’ Bill Of Rights Plus Act” In 1999. The bill included legal protections for patients, as well as tax provisions to increase access to health insurance by reducing the cost of health care coverage.

* Believes Legal Reforms Without A Significant Interstate Nexus Are Best Left To The States. Including medical liability reform and volunteer liability protections.


76 posted on 10/22/2007 10:59:13 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: bcsco

My son refers to that “duh” look as “remedial”. I have that look from time to time (okay, a lot), and that’s what I hear, “Oh, Mom, you look so, so remedial.” (I was just thrilled that he’d mastered a word with more than one syllable.)

Someone needs to whisper “remedial” in John’s ear.


77 posted on 10/22/2007 11:01:09 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Some good reviews from established media and blogs.

I agree that FDT did okay in the debate. A little shaky here and there, but overall credible.

How come though,that reviews from established media and blogs are suddenly in vogue? These are the same media whose reviews heretofore have been largely scathing. This as recently as Debate-eve at the FL GOP confab. When posted at FR these reviews have been universally dismissed by Fredheads as biased, incorrect, or selective.

So now we are admitting the good reviews, are the previous scathing reviews admissable as well? Or does the Fredhead filter apply, wherein only good reviews are valid?

78 posted on 10/22/2007 11:01:29 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: fluffdaddy
All this obsession about who best projects energy, likability, and command of the issues is monumentally beside the point. The important lesson of the last two debates is that Thompson is the only serious guy in the race who is selling what Republican’s want to buy. He’s selling it quite well enough so it isn’t hard to predict that most of them will buy it when the time comes to make a real purchasing decision.

****************

Exactly right. It seems that some here believe the candidates are auditioning for host of the Tonight Show. The objective of all this fol-de-rol is not entertainment, but a chance to get to know the candidates.

79 posted on 10/22/2007 11:01:47 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Plutarch

Haven’t had our coffee yet, I assume?


80 posted on 10/22/2007 11:03:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Security * Unity * Prosperity | Fred08.com)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Yes, I believe he’d be the one guy who would give us the “truth” about Area 51

...Right...Right after he gives us the skinny on Tower #7, I'm sure.

If he's so great, then why not vote for the guy? I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

81 posted on 10/22/2007 11:06:02 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: Dr. Thorne

And a nose for the endzone like a pig’s for truffles!


82 posted on 10/22/2007 11:07:20 AM PDT by karnage
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To: bcsco
He must've had his hot wife backstage cooing answers in his ear.

...mmm...hot wife...drool...me like...

LOL. Fred had a good night. It'll be interesting to see new polls and whether he dented Rudi's numbers, especially in FL.
83 posted on 10/22/2007 11:07:57 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: bill1952

This is why the MSM is proping up Huckabee.

They need a ronpaul for Thompson. Essentially a vote splitter.

The only function of the Frutless Five candidates is to vote split to clear a path for Giuliani’s 27% plurality.


84 posted on 10/22/2007 11:08:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL! Good news from the MSM = bad news for true, concerned and deep thinking conservatives.
But then, with anyone under 65, situational ethics rules.

Hey, Fred did pretty well last night, but since when do you’all think the MSM is right?


85 posted on 10/22/2007 11:09:20 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Sola Veritas
That being said, how can you claim Fred won when in another post to FR the following is quoted: “The Fox News Republican Presidential debate in Orlando Florida revealed that the GOP nomination is still up for grabs. According to Fox News Viewers text voting after the debate, Ron Paul won with 34%, Huckabee came in second with 27%, and Giuliani third with 11%.”

Because those call-in type polls are not accurate and one person can vote many times. Paul supporters are notorious for spamming polls.

86 posted on 10/22/2007 11:09:38 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: indylindy

“I myself, would like a Thompson/Hunter ticket.”

Same here!


87 posted on 10/22/2007 11:11:14 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Moonman62

More like waiting for the moment.

He’s one of 12 people in a closet speaking all at once. He’s just cruising along waiting until the closet gets depopulated.


88 posted on 10/22/2007 11:12:10 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: clamper1797

>> Thompson should choose Duncan Hunter as his VP candidate

I can understand the appeal on this board to a Hunter VP nomination ... but, honestly, Hunter makes zero sense on a strategic or political level. Nobody knows who he is - so his name-recognition value is zero - and he doesn’t bring any segment of voters that Thompson couldn’t caputure.

Personally, I’d prefer J.C. Watts as a VP candidate. Watts is younger, has name recognition, and is an up-and-comer in the GOP ranks. He’d be a fine President, and would have a good shot at the WH in 8 years. Plus - his race would mute any effects Hillary could get by choosing Obama as a running mate. I’m not sure his state of origin would be particularly helpful, though.

Other names I’ve heard that might have some merit ... John Cornyn (Senator, TX), Gen. Peter Pace, Mitt Romney (might help in the Northeast), Rudy Giuliani (I’d prefer him for DHS, though), Ron Paul (just kidding). None of these are perfect candidates, but their name recognition and/or popularity in areas of the country that wouldn’t necessarily be Thompson’s strengths seem more helpful than Duncan Hunter might be.

H


89 posted on 10/22/2007 11:13:11 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Fred would do much better if he got rid of the “uh’s”...

He did better in this one than the first one. I think debate prep may be why he disappeared this last week. And he really picked up the pace.

I thought he mustered facts well and was organized. Not up to Rudi's professional debater level of preparedness but markedly improved.

It's not too late for Fred, no matter what anyone says.
90 posted on 10/22/2007 11:13:16 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I love Hunter, but I don’t think he will get the exposure or the money. I like Fred, and I was happy he took the chance to point out Rooty’s liberal history.

The Thompson/Hunter ticket would put a good strong VP on the ticket.

We are going to all have to mobilze soon if we want to keep RINO Rooty from taking the primary wins because we all split between too many candidates.


91 posted on 10/22/2007 11:16:05 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: bcsco

I’m ONLY saying he had a good take on the issue of health insurance coverage. He framed the problem very well and articulately. I believe you missed the remainder of my comment, I won’t be voting for him (I hope), but neither will I go after him for being to the Republican Party what Denis Kocynich (sp?) is to the Democrat party.


92 posted on 10/22/2007 11:16:47 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: trisham

I’ll give Romney this much — he certainly is handsome.


93 posted on 10/22/2007 11:16:50 AM PDT by Finny (There are many enemies in our work. One of them is envy. -- A British naval officer)
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To: Finny
I’ll give Romney this much — he certainly is handsome.

***************

The man is a male model, for Pete's sake! :)

94 posted on 10/22/2007 11:19:23 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Hemorrhage

how about a Governor like Crist. (hold nose)

He controls FL.

Assuming Hillary goes for Ohio Governor.


95 posted on 10/22/2007 11:20:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
but neither will I go after him for being to the Republican Party what Denis Kocynich (sp?) is to the Democrat party.

Nope, didn't miss your point about not voting for him. That's why I asked the question.

But heck, RP, Dennis Kucinich, they're both a barrel of laughs. C'mon, yuk it up with the rest of us. It's fun when you get the ol' laugh machine going.

96 posted on 10/22/2007 11:21:30 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: LRS

Cartoonish train wreck is more like it.


97 posted on 10/22/2007 11:22:02 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Finally, Fred!...Welcome aboard!..Now,Go get 'em,boy!!!!)
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To: indylindy

tancredo needs to pull out.


98 posted on 10/22/2007 11:22:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ravingnutter
Because those call-in type polls are not accurate and one person can vote many times.

Obviously, you don't know what you're talking about.

Fox News uses caller-ID on the text messaging calls and allows each phone just one vote. It was this way in the previous texting polling by FNC too. That's why it makes Vannity so mad when RP wins. They thought they could avoid spamming.
99 posted on 10/22/2007 11:22:33 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: trisham

Has Romney modeled? If we had a Most Handsome award, he would win.

He could definitely beat Hillary in that race too!

LOL


100 posted on 10/22/2007 11:23:42 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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