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Explosive Winds, Hotter Temperatures Expected to Intensify California Wildfires
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304276,00.html ^

Posted on 10/23/2007 8:37:08 AM PDT by Grendel9

SAN DIEGO — Thousands more residents were ordered to evacuate their homes Tuesday, bringing the number of people chased away by the wind-whipped flames that have engulfed Southern California to at least 300,000.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: wildfires
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One has to commiserate with the home owners out there, but I never fail to wonder WHY these folks build their residences in such a high risk area in the first place. It isn't as though the Santa Ana winds are a freak wind gust through those valleys; they happen all the time and every year. True, the wind velocities are higher and the fires more catastrophic than ever recorded, but still...you live on the brink of disaster annualy? I can't fathom the price of insurance premiums. And many of these home are rebuilds following previous fires that wiped them out! I refuse to buy into the idea that the view is that spectacular.
1 posted on 10/23/2007 8:37:08 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: Grendel9

They build their homes where there is land to build. The law requires them to clear-brush the areas around their homes.

The only real failure here is the government that did not clean up government land. Hence the massive amount of fuel to burn over the cleared areas.

Arnold and his government has again failed and just like four years ago with the cedar fire, after a lot of yelling, government will again take the blame.


2 posted on 10/23/2007 8:40:41 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Grendel9
My heart and prayers go out to those who are effected.

There aren't many places on Earth where it is guaranteed to be safe.

3 posted on 10/23/2007 8:42:20 AM PDT by lormand (Was once a union member and ex-democRAT, then came Reagan)
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To: Grendel9

I guess it’s like asking those of us in Kansas why do we live and build in Tornado Alley. Odds are pretty good and it’s our home. My nephew lives there because he has a great job and a wife who is from Mexico. They don’t want to live away from her family and he probably couldn’t get the job he has anywhere else.


4 posted on 10/23/2007 8:43:13 AM PDT by Mercat (Let us pause in life's pleasures and count its many tears)
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To: Grendel9

You are partially right. But these fires have hit areas that have never been hit by wildfires before, including cities like Valencia. Besides which, if you avoided putting a house where there might be fire, floods, mudslides or earthquakes, there’s pretty much nowhere you could build here.

That said, I’d agree that there should be a ban on any more large housing developments in rural/canyon areas in California. There’s a water shortage too, and that’s another reason to stop building.


5 posted on 10/23/2007 8:43:39 AM PDT by Argus
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I live in Southern California and work near Disneyland, and I’ve got to say this is really bad. The smell is just horrible. It’s really acidic and burns your eyes, there is dust and ash everywhere, you can’t walk around with your eyes open, the mail carriers are wearing masks and there is an orange tint to the light from the sun. It looks as if someone has put an orange filter on the sun, so that it looks like a planet from a 1950’s scifi show.

The winds have died down a bit here, but I’m not looking forward to cleaning up after this. There are trees and branches down everywhere. I’ve been through plenty of Santa Ana’s before, and lots of us are wondering if terrorists aren’t involved because of the number of fires in different locations cropping up at once. It would be a very cost-effective way to mess with us, and it’s predictable every year so I dunno

6 posted on 10/23/2007 8:49:39 AM PDT by yankeesdoodle
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To: Grendel9; All
Yes, Arnold signs all sorts of things into law that are literally insane...

And then days later, his job consists of flying around declaring states of emergency

Coincidence? Not likely...

7 posted on 10/23/2007 8:58:35 AM PDT by yankeesdoodle
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To: yankeesdoodle

I’m sooo sorry to hear this. Used to live in Oceanside in the Whealan Ranch area. Any word about the Wild Animal Park?

thanks and prayers out to you.


8 posted on 10/23/2007 9:03:02 AM PDT by navymom1 (Freedom is Talk Radio. Fight to Preserve It.)
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To: Grendel9

Seems like every news story has to make a stop at the “global warming” desk, to see if it can possibly be worked in.


10 posted on 10/23/2007 9:23:31 AM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: Soliton
Name one good thing ever to come out of Malibu, CA.

Me....when I got the hell out of there.

11 posted on 10/23/2007 9:25:48 AM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: navymom1

I know everyone is worried about Magic Mountain, but I heard they are moving lots of the animals to one of the Fairgrounds, so I think they’ve got them handled. I understand that President Bush is sending out some Homeland Security people because among other things, one fire had 3 ignition points, and that’s just beyond statistically possible


12 posted on 10/23/2007 9:26:10 AM PDT by yankeesdoodle
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To: Grendel9

3% humidity isnt normal....and most of these neighborhoods are up to code...


13 posted on 10/23/2007 9:27:04 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Argus

As a kid I used to live at the intersection of Mulholland drive and Topanga canyon. Real Estate was in Topanga was always discounted due to floods, mudslides and fire insurance was tough to get.

A vivid memory I have as a kid was standing on the edge of one of these hills some months after one of these fires and we had just had several weeks of good rain. I was standing at the edge of a huge crack in the ground the whole side of the hill was about to give away as there was nothing to hold it in place after the fire.

Hiking in Topanga canyon in the late 60’s I came across a the foundation of a huge house with a huge Iron gate, must have been a former actors house or something in the 20’s or 30’s it had been burned to the ground. In the canyons sooner or later you are going to get hit.

I would have thought Calabasas would be safe and surprised that it’s burning there, but then didn’t Atherton in the Bay Area get hit a few years ago ? And I thought that was a well developed area like Calabasas

California is a beautiful place to live you just have to be able to survive the occasional geologic episodes and natures fury.


14 posted on 10/23/2007 9:33:53 AM PDT by underbyte
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To: underbyte

I grew up at Tampa and Devonshire. One year one of the oil rigs at the end of Tampa caught fire, and no one could get it out. We could see it from our house between Chatsworth and Devonshire. They even had Red Adair come out, and his team couldn’t extinguish it. The Santa Anas came up and blew it out like a birthday candle.


15 posted on 10/23/2007 9:42:55 AM PDT by hoppity
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To: yankeesdoodle

You could be right. Whether foreign or domestic terrorists, makes no difference, it’s a horrible experience and we’ll be suffering for weeks until the fires are extinguished and we can clean up. When they catch the arsonists, they should be publically executed. My house smells like I lit the fireplace and forgot to open the flue.


16 posted on 10/23/2007 10:39:18 AM PDT by Snapping Turtle (Slow down and get a grip!)
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To: Snapping Turtle

Forgot to mention — I’m really thankful I still have a house.


17 posted on 10/23/2007 10:41:55 AM PDT by Snapping Turtle (Slow down and get a grip!)
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To: edcoil

Uhh, I recall a few years back Bush sent a bill to
Congress limiting the budget to 4% increases, but
specifically honing in on burning the underbrush
in the National Parks. The Democrats refuted the
whole package, demanding they get full okay on
all their cutesy little pork packages. Once
they won that argument, the Republicans jumped
in with all their pork amendments. Of course,
back in those days, Bush had no guts re vetoing,
so he took the blame. I have no idea what
Schwarzenneger did with the funds; I do know
he was between a rock and a hard place to find
monies for all the education/freebies for the
continuing mass invasion from South of the
border.


18 posted on 10/23/2007 10:42:48 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: lormand

I see what you mean...
Look for a plot of ground away from:
a river that overflows annually,
a valley/corridor with aridity so
low it’a a tinderbox
a below sea level plot with ocean
access
a plot located along tornado alley
a site that is not avalanche prone
a plot located nowhere near a major
fault line - earthquakes

In the US, it sounds like the Great
MidWest is the ideal spot. All you
have to worry about is frost bite and
shoveling snow for a few weeks.
In Europe, I’d take a chance on Italy.


19 posted on 10/23/2007 10:53:35 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: yankeesdoodle

Prayera wending aloft for you and yours.


20 posted on 10/23/2007 10:55:35 AM PDT by Grendel9
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