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Thompsonís Plan to Fight Illegal Immigration
The Page-Time/CNN ^ | 10/23/2007 | Mark Halperin

Posted on 10/23/2007 10:39:15 AM PDT by Neville72

Thompson’s Plan to Fight Illegal Immigration

From Thompson campaign:

Thompson Announces Plan to Secure Border, Enforce Existing Immigration Laws

Senator Fred Thompson today unveiled a comprehensive border security and immigration enforcement proposal that would make America safer by increasing security at our nation’s borders, enforcing our country’s existing laws to reduce the incentive for illegal immigration and streamlining the legal immigration process.

“A country that cannot secure its borders will not remain a sovereign nation and you cannot have national security without border security,” said Thompson. “It’s not only necessary for any meaningful immigration reform, but border security plays a key role in both the interdiction of illegal drugs and in defending America against terrorist threats. Weak borders allow terrorists and smugglers, as well as millions of illegal aliens, easy entrance to the United States.”

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1 posted on 10/23/2007 10:39:16 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: Neville72

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. Get elected and put those ideas in place. Talk without action is just words.


2 posted on 10/23/2007 10:41:37 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: Long Island Pete
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. Get elected and put those ideas in place. Talk without action is just words.

you got it. let's vote for someone who won't even talk about defending our borders.
3 posted on 10/23/2007 10:43:20 AM PDT by jjw
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To: Long Island Pete

Getting elected is what he is trying to do.

We never hear the current administration or, the DNC with this position.


4 posted on 10/23/2007 10:43:38 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Neville72

Sounds like Fred is spot on regarding illegal immigration, just as he is with almost all his other positions.

Fred Thompson ‘08!


5 posted on 10/23/2007 10:45:15 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Long Island Pete

Are you like, 15?

You know, when folks run for office it’s good for them to talk about what they plan to do. Yahoo.

I like Fred’s proposals.


6 posted on 10/23/2007 10:46:12 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: snippy_about_it

Agreed! I hope to see more of this from him.


7 posted on 10/23/2007 10:48:02 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Long Island Pete

He can’t do the action until elected, so words are what he has for now. That’s part of evaluating a candidate, listen to what he or she says. Even more so, look at their voting record. To paraphrase a well-known proverb, “where a politician’s agenda is, there will his vote be also.”


8 posted on 10/23/2007 10:48:27 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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To: snippy_about_it

No Im not 15 and I am only speaking the truth. Yes its good to hear what they want to do, its better to actually do it. With a Democrat controlled Congress, it just might be a little tough.


9 posted on 10/23/2007 10:48:43 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: Disambiguator
“where a politician’s agenda is, there will his vote be also.”

Kind of like, "Read my lips. no new taxes." Boy we all fell for that one.

10 posted on 10/23/2007 10:50:03 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: Neville72
Absolutely the best plan on immigration I have seen from any of the candidates. He addresses both legal and illegal immigration issues. Superb, especially the following:

Modernize Immigration Law/Policy: Change the nature of our legal immigration system to welcome immigrants who can be economic contributors to our country and are willing to learn the English language and reduce the scope of chain migration by giving family preference in the allocation of lawful permanent resident status only to spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens, and no one else (no siblings, no parents, no adult children, etc.)

•English as Official Language: Make English the official language of the U.S. to promote assimilation and legal immigrants’ success, and require English proficiency in order for any foreign person to be granted lawful permanent resident status.

11 posted on 10/23/2007 10:50:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Long Island Pete

You’re right. We don’t need to know any of the candidates’ positions on anything. I’m going to vote the guy with the best necktie.


12 posted on 10/23/2007 10:52:27 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: jennyjenny
You’re right. We don’t need to know any of the candidates’ positions on anything.

Can you please point out where I posted that? I must have been typing with my eyes closed.

13 posted on 10/23/2007 10:54:18 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: kabar

Where’s the fence!


14 posted on 10/23/2007 10:54:52 AM PDT by notaliberal
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To: Long Island Pete
Ronald Regan knew how to handle Congress. Get out in front of the cameras, talk sense to the American people, and shame the bastards into doing what is right. The fact that both men are actors gives me great hope. We need someone who can present compelling facts, clearly and believably, to the voting public.

Once, Regan joked "We just outlawed Russia, and the bombing starts in five minutes." It appeared to be a "whoops, left my mike on" misstep, and it carried with it the velvet glove warning to the Soviets "watch it, Ivan. We mean business." We need this kind of communicator again, someone who doesn't WANT to get along, and gets along by making his political opponents cave through public humiliation over their own failures. I hope Fred turns out to be the one who will walk in these really big shoes.

15 posted on 10/23/2007 10:55:20 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: jellybean; Politicalmom

Fred ping!


16 posted on 10/23/2007 10:55:30 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: edcoil
We never hear the current administration or, the DNC with this position.

Corrected for accuracy: We never hear the current administration or, the DNC nor the RNC with this position.
17 posted on 10/23/2007 10:55:52 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Neville72

Border Security and Immigration Reform Plan
In the post-9/11 world, immigration is much more of a national security issue. A government that cannot secure its borders and determine who may enter and who may not, fails in a fundamental responsibility. As we take steps to secure our borders and enforce our laws, we must also ensure that our immigration laws and policies advance our national interests in a variety of areas, and that the immigration process itself is as fair, efficient, and effective as possible.

Securing the Border and Enforcing the Law

A fundamental responsibility of the federal government is to secure the nation’s borders and enforce the law. The following policies and initiatives will put the nation on a path to success:

1. No Amnesty. Do not provide legal status to illegal aliens. Amnesty undermines U.S. law and policy, rewards bad behavior, and is unfair to the millions of immigrants who follow the law and are awaiting legal entry into the United States. In some cases, those law-abiding and aspiring immigrants have been waiting for several years.

2. Attrition through Enforcement. Reduce the number of illegal aliens through increased enforcement against unauthorized alien workers and their employers. Without illegal employment opportunities available, fewer illegal aliens will attempt to enter the country, and many of those illegally in the country now likely will return home. Self-deportation can also be maximized by stepping up the enforcement levels of other existing immigration laws. This course of action offers a reasonable alternative to the false choices currently proposed to deal with the 12 million or more aliens already in the U.S. illegally: either arrest and deport them all, or give them all amnesty. Attrition through enforcement is a more reasonable and achievable solution, but this approach requires additional resources for enforcement and border security:

1. Doubling ICE agents handling interior enforcement, increasing the Border Patrol to at least 25,000 agents, and increasing detention space to incarcerate illegal aliens we arrest rather than letting them go with a promise to show up later for legal proceedings against them.

2. Adding resources for the Department of Justice to prosecute alien smugglers, people involved in trafficking in false identification documents, and previously deported felons.

3. Maximizing efforts to prosecute and convict members of criminal alien gangs, such as MS-13 and affiliated gangs. These gangs have brought unusual levels of violence to more than 30 U.S. states and have also become very active in drug-smuggling, gun-smuggling, and alien-smuggling.

4. Implementing fully and making greater use of the expedited removal process already allowed under federal law.

5. Enabling the Social Security Administration to share relevant information with immigration and law enforcement personnel in a manner that will support effective interior enforcement efforts.

3. Enforce Existing Federal Laws. Enforce the laws Congress has already enacted to prevent illegal aliens from unlawfully benefiting from their presence in the country:

1. End Sanctuary Cities by cutting off discretionary federal grant funds as appropriate to any community that, by law, ordinance, executive order, or other formal policy directs its public officials not to comply with the provisions of 8 USC 1373 and 8 USC 1644, which prohibit any state or local government from restricting in any way communications with the Department of Homeland Security regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of an alien in the United States.

2. Deny discretionary Federal education grants as appropriate to public universities that violate federal law by offering in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens without also offering identical benefits to United States citizens, regardless of whether or not they live in the state, as required by 8 USC 1623.

3. Deny discretionary Federal grants as appropriate to states and local governments that violate federal law by offering public benefits to illegal aliens, as prohibited by 8 USC 1621(a).

4. Reduce the Jobs Incentive. Ensure employee verification by requiring that all U.S. employers use the Department of Homeland Security’s electronic database (the E-Verify system) to confirm that a prospective employee is authorized to work in the U.S. Now that the technology is proven, provide sufficient resources to make the system as thorough, fast, accurate, and easy-to-use as possible.

5. Bolster Border Security. Finish building the 854-mile wall along the border by 2010 as required by 8 USC 1103. Extend the wall beyond that as appropriate and deploy new technologies and additional resources to enhance detection and rapid apprehension along our borders by 2012.

6. Increased Prosecution. Deploy the additional assets outlined above to prosecute alien smugglers (”coyotes”), alien gang members, previously deported felons, and aliens who have repeatedly violated our immigration laws much more vigorously.

7. Rigorous Entry/Exit Tracking. Complete the implementation of a system to track visa entrants and exits, as has been required by federal law for more than ten years, and connect it to the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC), in order to curb visa overstays and permit more effective enforcement.

Improving the Legal Immigration Process
The United States is a nation of immigrants. We must continue to welcome immigrants and foreign workers who come to our country legally, giving priority to those who can advance the nation’s interests and common good. Immigrants and foreign workers who play by the rules need to be rewarded with faster and less burdensome service, not delays that last years. Advancing the following initiatives will require close cooperation between all levels of government, the business community, and concerned citizens:

1. Maximize Program Efficiency. Reduce the backlogs and streamline the process for immigrants and employers who seek to follow the law. Also, simplify and expedite the application processes for temporary visas. This can be accomplished by hiring more personnel at Citizenship and Immigration Services and the FBI. Caps for any category of temporary work visa would be increased as appropriate, if it could be demonstrated that there are no Americans capable and willing to do the jobs.

2. Enhanced Reporting. Improve reporting to the government by businesses that rely on temporary workers so that the government can track whether the visa holder remains employed.

3. Modernize Immigration Law/Policy. Change the nature of our legal immigration system to welcome immigrants who can be economic contributors to our country, are willing to learn the English language, and want to assimilate.

1. Reduce the scope of chain migration by giving family preference in the allocation of lawful permanent resident status only to spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens, and no one else (no siblings, no parents, no adult children, etc.).

2. Eliminate the diversity visa lottery.

4. English As Official Language. Make English the official language of the United States to promote assimilation and legal immigrants’ success, and require English proficiency in order for any foreign person to be granted lawful permanent resident status.

5. Freedom from Political Oppression. Preserve U.S. laws and policies to ensure that the United States remains a beacon and a haven for persons fleeing political oppression, while assuring appropriate admission standards are maintained.

6. Service to Country. Place those foreign persons who are lawfully present in the country and who serve honorably in the Armed Forces of the United States on a faster, surer track to U.S. citizenship.


18 posted on 10/23/2007 10:56:26 AM PDT by TNPatriot (No arsenal ... is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. -RR)
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To: Long Island Pete

So, you’re not fifteen. Then, what’s your excuse for that pointless post?

Trying to pick a fight?


19 posted on 10/23/2007 10:56:47 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: notaliberal
Where’s the fence!

The posted article is just a summary of the plan. At Fred08, you can read the entire plan, including:

Bolster Border Security. Finish building the 854-mile wall along the border by 2010 as required by 8 USC 1103. Extend the wall beyond that as appropriate and deploy new technologies and additional resources to enhance detection and rapid apprehension along our borders by 2012.

20 posted on 10/23/2007 10:57:39 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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To: notaliberal

Automatic citizenship for babies whose parents come here illegally. Where is that addressed?


21 posted on 10/23/2007 10:58:15 AM PDT by notaliberal
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To: Long Island Pete

Can you please point out where I posted that you posted that?


22 posted on 10/23/2007 11:02:31 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: John Valentine
So, you’re not fifteen. Then, what’s your excuse for that pointless post? Trying to pick a fight?

Uh, no. Trying to point out that no President is going to do anything about illegal immigration. It's a taboo subject. They will use it to get elected. They will piss in your ear and tell you it is raining. Do you think a Republican President can get it done with a Democrat controlled Congress? Sorry if you took offense to my truthful post, but like the old saying goes, truth hurts.

23 posted on 10/23/2007 11:03:34 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: Long Island Pete
I must have been typing with my eyes closed.

****************

That might explain it.

24 posted on 10/23/2007 11:04:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Sounds like Fred is spot on regarding illegal immigration, just as he is with almost all his other positions.

Kinda late to the party-ain't he?

25 posted on 10/23/2007 11:04:46 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Neville72

Ho hum. If it doesn’t involve land mines and sharpshooters, I don’t care.


26 posted on 10/23/2007 11:05:13 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Islam is to Religion as Taco Bell is to Mexican food)
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To: Long Island Pete

“Read my lips. no new taxes.” Boy we all fell for that one.”
There was more to that shibboleth than that simple statement. As I recall, there was a great grumbling about the high deficit at that time. Bush the Elder had an agreement (he thought) with the Dem Congress that for every dollar raised in new taxes, the deficit would be reduced by that one dollar. True to their character, the Dems not only refused to use those tax dollars to reduce the deficit, they actually spent something like $1.84 for every new dollar in taxes.
So, yeah. Bush never should have raised taxes, but it wasn’t quite as simple as some people think. He made a bargain(that he shouldn’t have made) and was then betrayed by the Dems.


27 posted on 10/23/2007 11:06:54 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Neville72

The only thing that’s missing is language re communicable disease, proof of ability to pay health insurance premiums and/or obligations of sponsors to provide same, AND a loyalty oath (carefully and thoroughly crafted!).


28 posted on 10/23/2007 11:07:41 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: trisham

I dont know what is with you people. All I did was be honest. I said get elected and put your plan in action. I dont know about you all but I dont trust my Government. They will tell you what you want to hear in order to get elected. Once elected they dont do crap. I like Fred. I hope he gets the nomination. But I dont trust any of them when it comes to illegal immigration. Sorry if my honesty bunched up your shorts but it is the Gods honest truth.


29 posted on 10/23/2007 11:08:15 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: processing please hold

“Kinda late to the party-ain’t he?”

Um, no. There’s plenty of time to get the word out. On the other hand, Duncan Hunter’s been in since the beginning, and he’s polling at 0.4%. Fred’s crazy like a fox (or ‘lazy’ like one;).

Looks like I’m going to meet him tomorrow morning, I’m excited!


30 posted on 10/23/2007 11:08:52 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
He made a bargain(that he shouldn’t have made) and was then betrayed by the Dems.

And do you think the next REPUBLICAN President can bargain with this Congress when it comes to illegal immigration?

31 posted on 10/23/2007 11:09:46 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: PreciousLiberty

Sure, what ever you say.


32 posted on 10/23/2007 11:09:48 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: TNPatriot

Seeing as Fred Thompson is running on a no-nonsense border security platform, that should improve his chances.

Any politician (or party) who ignores the issue does so at their own peril. Is the RNC listening? Hello? Is this thing on? *audio feedback*


33 posted on 10/23/2007 11:10:16 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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34 posted on 10/23/2007 11:10:28 AM PDT by jellybean (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=dailyfread Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Long Island Pete

“Sorry if my honesty bunched up your shorts but it is the Gods honest truth.”

Truth that doesn’t make much sense I’m afraid. We have to base our vote on what we know _before_ the election. That does mean the candidate needs integrity and trustworthiness. The big problem has been that few, if any, recent Presidents have displayed those qualities. My gut feeling is that Fred has them in spades.

‘We the people’ need to figure out better ways to penalize politicians who break campaign promises. They’re an endemic problem.

Fred Thompson ‘08!


35 posted on 10/23/2007 11:13:15 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Neville72

Sounds like a good plan.

Hunter and Thompson have similar plans.
Except Hunter has proven leadership in this area.

Thompson’s a good man. Hunter’s a better man.


36 posted on 10/23/2007 11:13:59 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Neville72

While I wish he would be more specific, Fred is saying the right things about border security.

But I have absolutely ZERO confidence in our worthless, vapid, do nothing congress to put any of Fred’s ideas into action. In fact, I am convinced that if a Republican is elected NOTHING will be done about the border as long as liberals run congress. And if Hillary wins then the situation will only get much worse.

I’ve said it a thousand times... In the end the problem of illegal immigration will be solved in the streets. Our completely worthless congress will see to that.


37 posted on 10/23/2007 11:17:48 AM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
My gut feeling is that Fred has them in spades.

I agree but if he does get elected lets talk in 2-3 years and see where we are as far as illegal immigration is concerned. My gut is telling me we will be in the same boat with a bigger hole.

38 posted on 10/23/2007 11:17:53 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: jennyjenny
Crap. I thought we were supposed to vote for the guy who had the best haircut!! [scratches Edwards' name off voting checklist]
/sarc
39 posted on 10/23/2007 11:17:59 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: Neville72

It really sounds good...on paper!
Let’a be honest, Thompson has hired
at least one good speech writer.
WHY wasn’t any of this plan cited
the other night before the nation?
He’s saving the meat and potatoes
for his blog? How dull-witted do
they think I am?

I did hear him state that opening
remark several weeks back on live
TV. It was word for word..“A country that cannot secure its borders will not remain a sovereign nation and you cannot have national security without border security.”

Again...but being elected Preaident doesn’t
guarantee 435 Representatives in the House
and 100 Senators are going to buy into your
pledge.
Senatoras


40 posted on 10/23/2007 11:19:30 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: kidd

Fred has the name recognition and the gravitas and the knowledge to be a great president. Hunter could set himself on fire and people would say, “Oh, yeah, that’s the guy that built some fence somewhere, eh?” Sad, but true. :-(

We need BOTH of these good men in office—Fred in 2008 with DH at his side as VP—then DH as President in 2012 and 2016!! :-)

Thompson-Hunter 2008!!


41 posted on 10/23/2007 11:20:17 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: Long Island Pete
Get elected and put those ideas in place.

Sounds like you'll be supporting Fred.

42 posted on 10/23/2007 11:20:57 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Long Island Pete
I just finished reading the proposals. They all are the proposals that many of us out here in "fly over country" have been pressing for for years, even decades.

If Fred were to offer some specifics in these areas as to how he would accomplish this work dealing with the entrenched bureaucrats in D.C. who will work against these 24/7, he'd certainly gain lots of voters, including independents and dimocRATS.

43 posted on 10/23/2007 11:21:03 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Get out! :-)

Tell him Carolyne in TX said HI!! and Godspeed to the White House! :-)


44 posted on 10/23/2007 11:21:35 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: jellybean
I wonder if the MSM that has been bashing Fred will be pi$$ed when they find out he was busy fleshing out a real plan to deal with the illegal problem?

I mean, they are used to covering candidates that spew nonsense with no real workable plans and kiss babies.

45 posted on 10/23/2007 11:22:00 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Long Island Pete
Yes its good to hear what they want to do, its better to actually do it. With a Democrat controlled Congress, it just might be a little tough.

Bush had a Republican congress and refused to do his duty.

I think Fred will do better than that even with a Dem congress.

46 posted on 10/23/2007 11:22:10 AM PDT by RJL (Mexico must have incriminating photos of Bush from his drinking days.)
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To: MEGoody
Sounds like you'll be supporting Fred.

HOLY CRAP, you're the only one who was able to figure that out.

47 posted on 10/23/2007 11:22:44 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: Neville72

Works for me.

Prediction:

By Dec. 1 Fred will lead all major national polls.


48 posted on 10/23/2007 11:23:30 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: Long Island Pete

I seriously doubt it! A Dem congress in the future will do exactly as this Dem congress is doing.


49 posted on 10/23/2007 11:23:50 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Long Island Pete

I assume you’ll vote for Fred to help him achieve that right?


50 posted on 10/23/2007 11:23:56 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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