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Felons buying deer hunting licenses even though they canít own guns
New Richmond News ^ | 10-31-07

Posted on 10/31/2007 4:47:59 PM PDT by SJackson

At least 77 felons bought Wisconsin deer hunting licenses last year even though it’s illegal for them to ever have guns.

The actual number is probably a lot higher.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel says only one in five hunters allow their names to be released, which means the paper could only check the criminal records of a relative few.

The Department of Natural Resources picks up few of those felons. Only about 20 were caught last year.


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To: lndrvr1972
Yep that is true. Whoever posted this should have looked into that. A bow is not considered a firearm.

The same notion is buried in the article. But some states deny "weapons", which a bow is, not just firearms. Don't know about this one. Some also define certain non-firearms to be firearms for the purposes of the law. IIRC some states do that for crossbows for example.

41 posted on 10/31/2007 6:50:00 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SJackson

Maybe they’re shooting a friend’s gun. Is that legal?


42 posted on 10/31/2007 6:51:49 PM PDT by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: SJackson

43 posted on 10/31/2007 6:55:23 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Beagle8U
I just think that there are felons that wouldn’t be a problem hunting.

I agree, although I'd make it all of them after they'd served there full sentence given by judge or jury. Some of that could be on probation of course, but still after they've successfully completed it, rights should be restored, all of them. If a person is so dangerous they can't be trusted with a firearm, they shouldn't be out walking around, and if they are, a law against them having guns is not going to stop them from having them.

However, the feds disagree with both of us.

44 posted on 10/31/2007 6:55:42 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: meyer
Maybe they’re shooting a friend’s gun. Is that legal?

First I'm not a lawyer, but no, to shoot a deer in Wisconsin you have to have a deer tag, which a felon can't purchase. The firearm isn't the issue. Whether a felon can posess a firearm in Wisconsin, I don't know, my guess is he can't.

In Illinois, forget felon, if you don't have an FOID, are a registered firearm owner, pick a firearm up, you've committed a crime in most circumstances, perhaps a felony if a handgun.

45 posted on 10/31/2007 6:57:22 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: meyer
Maybe they’re shooting a friend’s gun. Is that legal?

If they can shoot it without possessing it, I suppose, it would be. But even renting a gun for use only in the particular indoor range renting it to them is interpreted as "possessing" it by our FRiends at the BATFE.

46 posted on 10/31/2007 6:58:09 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato; Beagle8U
I agree, although I'd make it all of them after they'd served there full sentence given by judge or jury. Some of that could be on probation of course, but still after they've successfully completed it, rights should be restored, all of them. If a person is so dangerous they can't be trusted with a firearm, they shouldn't be out walking around, and if they are, a law against them having guns is not going to stop them from having them.

Given recidivism rates, I'd disagree. Serving a couple years for bouncing checks or embezzlement is, imo, quite different than 20 years for attempted murder, in terms of the risks to society. I do think the system should have a process for regaining gun rights, it could be a function of sentencing, but I'm ok with barring a violent criminal from gun ownership. Of course now we bar everyone.

47 posted on 10/31/2007 7:02:10 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: SJackson
I think that is why in my first post on this I said it should be determined by the judge and jury if the crime fit barring all future gun and hunting rights.
48 posted on 10/31/2007 7:10:52 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: sionnsar
and getting close enough to toss an atlatl at one

Huh? Ya hold the atlatl, it's the spear that goes downrange...

Unless you are in Australia, then you hold the woomera and launch the spear...

49 posted on 10/31/2007 7:22:21 PM PDT by null and void (First reporter of the great (5.6) San Jose 'quake of '07...)
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To: SJackson
Felons buying deer hunting licenses even though they can’t own guns

Maybe they use tasers instead.

Don't tase me, bro!
50 posted on 10/31/2007 8:09:14 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Pelosi--pissed off Turkey, supported SCHIP, really jerky, and full of sh|t)
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To: SJackson

Maybe their wives own the guns.


51 posted on 10/31/2007 8:16:01 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: El Gato

Not true in many states. Anybody in a hunting party, even if not hunting themselves, has to have a license and any stamps or tags required of hunters. I was in a goose blind with a couple of friends and the warden told me I had to go back to the truck because even though I didn’t have a gun, I also didn’t have any of the papers.


52 posted on 10/31/2007 9:21:54 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("Believe me or not, his intelligence was perfectly clear...But his soul was mad.")
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To: fso301

duke boys


53 posted on 10/31/2007 9:55:28 PM PDT by dennisw (Four and a half acres of sovereign U.S. territory,anytime,anywhere ---- US aircraft carrier)
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To: SJackson

Thats quite a gal, there.


54 posted on 10/31/2007 10:58:33 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: kaboom
...rapists were among those in the woods last year, creating possible tension and maybe violence.

not to mention, ruining the meat.

ROTFLMAO

55 posted on 10/31/2007 11:06:28 PM PDT by Dan Cooper
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To: SJackson

Bare knuckle Buck fighting could be an option ;o)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GNwjkg7ho


56 posted on 10/31/2007 11:12:27 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: SJackson

Do the licenses require a stamp to harvest deer? Maybe these guys like stamp art. I buy a hunting license every year just so I can go if the urge hits me during bird season (gun, ammo license is all you really need). But I keep the old licenses because each year’s stamp is really beautiful.


57 posted on 11/01/2007 12:44:35 AM PDT by etcetera ("Victory over the insurgency is the only meaningful exit strategy." Henry Kissinger)
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To: sionnsar

Not in my front yard! They move away if I throw a few stones at them, but otherwise they keep munching on the roses.

Hmmm... venison, right from the front garden...

I know what you'tre talking about. Deer are nothing but hoofed rodents. I shot my last one with a pistol after it ate my papaya's.

58 posted on 11/01/2007 1:31:39 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: El Gato

Thanks-again it was a a few years ago and I have not had to work with that portion of the penal code so I am not real weel versed in it.

I think I see where the State law can work within this-TX has a punishment class of “State Jail Felony” that falls into 1 to 2 year exception listed


59 posted on 11/01/2007 1:31:45 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: SJackson

Bows, crossbows, black powder, traps, other methods available.

I know a guy who got a deer with a pocketknife.


60 posted on 11/02/2007 6:31:54 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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