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Live Thread President Bush Makes Major Address in War on Terror to Heritage Foundation
FOX News Channel | November 1, 2007 | Self

Posted on 11/01/2007 9:47:26 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla

He is about to speak. Chris Wallace covering

TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; globaljihad; heritagefoundation; jidad; wot
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To: lonestar67
"Islamofascism does seek to kill both Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich."

Even a broken clock is right twice a day!(sarc off)

81 posted on 11/01/2007 11:38:31 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Crop-circles, killer rabbits and UFO'S are caused by GLOBAL WARMING!)
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To: matthew fuller
That's the point! A lot of the liberal poster's have infiltrated the site to do just that, where us down and turn us off!
82 posted on 11/01/2007 11:39:00 AM PDT by Right_Rev
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To: matthew fuller
Good timing bringing up Code Pink and This certainly put these two Groups in the spotlight which will allow for the Repubs running for POTUS to make the connection back to the DEM. Enablers/Supporters like Hildabeast.
83 posted on 11/01/2007 11:44:54 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: jrooney; processing please hold
Just like Cindy and Nancy these hijackers can relate anything to their obsessive irrationality. Call them on it and expect them to double down.

Like little kids they cry: "It's true! Exact words!"

84 posted on 11/01/2007 12:03:29 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: I see my hands


85 posted on 11/01/2007 12:09:19 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: My Favorite Headache; lonestar67

A brief review of President Bush speaking in just the last five business days:

A Day in the Life of President Bush (a lot of photos): 10-25-07 ^ | 25th October 2007 |
Posted on 10/25/2007 11:57:53 PM EDT by snugs
Today the President travelled to California to see first hand the devastation caused by the wild fires.

A Day in the Life of President Bush (photos): 10-26-07 & other sources ^ | 10-26-07
Posted on 10/26/2007 8:42:00 PM EDT by silent_jonny
President Bush met with President Joseph Kabila of the Democratic Republic of the Congo this morning in the Oval Office. (Transcript)

Later, in the White House Roosevelt Room, President Bush again urged Democrats to stop dragging their feet and send him an appropriations bill:

“October the 26th is the latest date in 20 years that Congress has failed to get a single annual appropriations bill to the President’s desk.”

The president also spoke about the overall incompetence of this Congress, mentioning their continued efforts to expand SCHIP (the House has passed a second and even more expensive bill than the one President Bush just vetoed), the stalled confirmation of Michael Mukasey as the next Attorney General, as well as Congressman Rangel’s plan to raise taxes by trillions. (Transcript)

A Day in the Life of President Bush (photos): 10-29-07
www ^ | 29th October 2007 |
Posted on 10/29/2007 9:10:08 PM EDT by snugs
Today the President attended fund raisers in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

A day in the life of President Bush (photos) 10-30-07
Yahoo!, White ^ | October 30, 2007
Posted on 10/30/2007 8:43:37 PM EDT by Kaslin
This morning President Bush urged Congress to pass the Appropriations bills

A Day in the Life of President Bush (photos): 10-31-07 & other sources ^ | 10-31-07
Posted on 10/31/2007 8:36:16 PM EDT by silent_jonny

This morning President Bush spoke to business owners at the 2007 Grocery Manufacturers Association/Food Products Association Fall Conference in Washington.

“One of the reasons I’ve come by is to remind you how important you are to our economy… my philosophy is,I don’t believe the role of government is to try to create wealth. It’s to create the environment in which people are willing to risk capital, to expand their businesses”(Transcript)

The president again took this opportunity to urge Congress to “stop playing politics” and get back to work. The pressure seems to be working: Democrats have finally scheduled a confirmation vote for Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey next Tuesday, November 6. (He was nominated in September.)

86 posted on 11/01/2007 12:15:04 PM PDT by maica
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To: I see my hands; jrooney
Open Borders in Dangerous Times
an article by Mark Silverberg

With all our attention focused on the millions of illegal, undocumented Mexican immigrants pouring over our southern border each year, we have paid scant attention to those who have chosen to hide in their midst; those who seek entry into the U.S. not to pursue the American dream…….but to destroy it.

FBI Director Robert Mueller, in a House Appropriations Committee hearing on March 9, 2005 said he was aware that individuals from countries with known Al Qaeda ties had entered the U.S. under false identities. The matter concerned former Homeland Security Deputy Secretary James Loy enough that at one point, he wrote: "Recent information from ongoing investigations, detentions and emerging threat streams strongly suggest that al Qaeda has considered using the Southwest border to infiltrate the United States. Several al Qaeda leaders believe operatives can pay their way into the country through Mexico, and also believe illegal entry is more advantageous than legal entry for operational security reasons." In other words, the less we know about them and their entry into this country, the more dangerous they become.

So, when the 9/11 Commission Report notes that Lebanese nationals sympathetic to Hamas and Hizbollah have been smuggled into the United States with the assistance of "corrupt Mexican officials in Beirut, Mexico City and Tijuana to facilitate their travel"; when, in November 2005, Rep. Sue Myrick (R-N.C.) tells the Charlotte Observer that three al Qaeda terrorists had been captured at the U.S.-Mexico border; when evidence surfaces that former al Qaeda operations chief Khalid Sheikh Mohammed encouraged aspiring "dirty bomber" Jose Padilla to enter the United States by way of Mexico in order to carry out attacks on U.S. targets; when the Washington Times reports that al Qaeda has allied itself with organized Mexican crime groups (such as the notorious Mara Salvatrucha gang, also commonly known as 'MS-13') to facilitate the entry of al Qaeda operatives into the United States via Mexico; when American intelligence confirms a growing al Qaeda-Hezbollah interest in the Arab communities of the tri-border area of central South America (a lawless, crime-ridden area where Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay intersect) as a staging ground for future attacks on American soil; when the Brownsville Herald reports that persons with possible terrorist ties have been captured just after entering the U.S. from Mexico but are being released into the American interior due to lack of detention space at the border; when a Los Angeles radio station reports that Middle Eastern men with al Qaeda links are adopting Hispanic names, acquiring fake Mexican ID cards and are mixing with the stream of illegals coming across our southern border;

1 when KGBT-TV in Harlingen, TX catches Border Patrol agents dropping off a van load of illegal immigrants at a local bus station; when the Tombstone Tumbleweed (June 13, 2004) reports that American border patrol agents arrested one hundred and fifty-eight illegal aliens in Cochise County, Arizona, fifty-three of whom were overheard speaking Farsi (Iranian) and Arabic in the back of the detention vehicle;

2 when Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo releases a report revealing that some illegals from terrorist nations are paying as much as $50,000 to be smuggled into the U.S. and notes that "they're not paying that kind of money simply to work at a 7/11"; and when bin Laden's biographer Hamid Mir writes that several tactical nuclear weapons and enough uranium to build others have already been smuggled over the U.S.-Mexican border for the purpose of launching catastrophic radiological attacks in our major cities……there are significant danger signals emanating from our southern border that America has more to be concerned about than the economic ramifications of Mexican illegals seeking a better life for themselves.

Based upon al Qaeda documents seized by British MI-6 intelligence during recent raids in Pakistan, it is now known that al Qaeda has established strong South American links with the Colombian terror group FARC, the Shining Path in Peru, thousands of Muslim students in the Dominican Republic, the Hugo Chavez government in Venezuela and with Mexico's Popular Revolutionary Army (EPR). The documents reveal that al Qaeda sees these groups as facilitating the entry of al Qaeda operatives into the United States through the porous Mexican border.

The Venezuela terrorist connection is especially disturbing. The Washington Times recently quoted Thomas A. Shannon, assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs that "Cuban intelligence has effectively cloned itself inside Venezuelan intelligence" and that the Chavez government is providing shelter for organizations with ties to unspecified "terrorist organizations in the Middle East" notably Hezbollah.

3 Venezuelan identity cards are also being distributed to foreigners from Middle Eastern nations, specifically Syria, Pakistan, Egypt, and Lebanon - cards that are then used to obtain legal travel documents and passports to the U.S.

In the post 9/11 world, these events represent significant warning signals. According to former FBI consultant Paul L. Williams, thousands of al Qaeda agents have already infiltrated the U.S. over the Mexican border with the mission of carrying out what he terms the "American Hiroshima" plan.

4 These "sleepers" were provided with phony identifications (mostly bogus matricula consular ID cards that are indistinguishable from Mexico's official ID cards and are accepted in the U.S. to open bank accounts and obtain driver's licenses). Bin Laden's goal, according to Williams, is to kill at least four million Americans, two million of whom must be children. Only then, (bin Laden says) would the crimes committed by America on the Arab and Muslim world be avenged. Thus, the issue of illegal immigration across the U.S.-Mexican border is as much if not more a national security threat than an economic one.

For years, a dangerous loophole has existed in our border security system - one that separates "illegals" into two groups - those who are automatically turned back at the border, and those from countries other than Mexico who are allowed into the U.S. pending deportation hearings. These "other than Mexicans" (OTMs) come primarily from other Latin American countries although an undetermined number come from countries designated by our government as countries of "Special Interest (SI)" because of their known al Qaeda presence - countries that include Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan, Yemen, Qatar, Algeria, Somalia and Malaysia.

5 According to reports issued by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and a September 2005 Congressional Report, the numbers of OTMs released on their own recognizance in this country for fiscal years 2002 (5,775) and 2003 (9,139) was far surpassed in 2004 when 32,782 were released pending their hearings. In 2005, another 63,494 were released and these figures are considered low.

6 Although the number of known Special Interest (SI) OTMs entering the U.S. through undocumented channels are very small (1,615 apprehensions between 1999 and 2004), the security threat arises from the fact that of the 70% of OTMs known to have been released on their own recognizance once they have entered the U.S., less than 30% actually show up for their deportation hearings. They simply disappear into the American interior......and it is the fear of what these SI-OTMs may be planning that keeps DHS and FBI agents up at night.

The so-called "catch and release" policy exercised at our southern (and northern) border is due to the lack of federal detention facilities. Rather than detaining OTMs until a deportation court hearing or deporting them outright, they are released on their own recognizance. On June 8, 2004 border agents at the Las Cruces, N.M. border station apprehended three illegal Pakistanis.......and promptly released them. The same day, guards at Texas' Uvalde station released a Bosnian wanted on an Interpol warrant and at the McAllen Border Patrol Sector of Texas more than 42,000 OTMs were released in 2005. Law-enforcement authorities told the Washington Times that al Qaeda is well aware of these loopholes.

Nor is the southern border the only porous border. Despite the projected increase in expenditures for additional border guards provided for in the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, the Canadian border also continues to operate like a sieve. Most of Canada's one hundred and sixty land and maritime border crossings are guarded by a lone staffer.

7 Heather MacDonald, a contributing editor at the Manhattan Institute's City Journal produced a scathing report in mid-December 2004 on U.S.-Canadian border security. She noted that the alien-smuggling trade was the "sea in which terrorists swim" and indications are that the trade is thriving primarily due to fears of offending the race and civil rights lobbies. She noted that, each week agents at the U.S. border patrol's Swanton sector catch Middle Easterners and North Africans sneaking into Vermont. “And every week, they immediately release (them) with a polite request to return for a deportation hearing because the Department of Homeland Security has failed to budget enough funding for sufficient detention space…….. In May 2004, Swanton agents released illegal aliens from Malaysia, Pakistan, Morocco, Uganda and India without bond. Since these aliens chose to evade the standard visa process, none has had a background check by a U.S. consular official that might have uncovered terrorist connections." All are now at large in the U.S.

8 The 9/11 Commission Report cataloged the "failures of imagination, policy, capabilities and management" that enabled Islamic terrorists to kill over 3,000 Americans. We have clearly not learned the lessons of 9/11. Unfortunately, what happens at our borders never stays at our borders. By not securing our northern and southern flanks, we continue to expose our country to catastrophe. As Richard Shultz, an international security expert at Tufts University's Fletcher School in Medford, Mass. has acknowledged: "We believe there is an international Salafist jihadi movement with a goal to attack....... the U.S. These terrorists are smart. They study these issues and learn from one other. And one way (into America) is right through the southern security perimeter."


Our WOT does include open borders. You don't like the connection-too bad. It's there. So, if Bush wants to talk about fighting the WOT, when the fence gets built he was serious about it. Otherwise it's only for a sound byte.

87 posted on 11/01/2007 12:32:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
Go film a documentary.

88 posted on 11/01/2007 12:49:36 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: processing please hold
I thought it was sure great of the President to choose the Heritage Foundation as a location for his speech. But I think he kind of missed the main point. We are not at war with a nation, or with "terror", but with radical RELIGIOUS fundamentalists who are motivated by a radical Jihad. Until the President and the rest of America realize this, we won't have effective resolve. Take a look at how radical this Muslims are: Their Own Words posts English translations of radical Jihadists who promote hate on public television and radio in radical Middle Eastern countries. Check it out: it's an important website
89 posted on 11/01/2007 12:54:45 PM PDT by jihadistalert
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To: spectre; processing please hold; jrooney
Spectre, you and processing please hold and many of us find Bush's double-speak about terrorists disingenuous....

..while our borders are still porous

jrooney, get a grip.
...we have opinions too.

90 posted on 11/01/2007 12:56:21 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla


91 posted on 11/01/2007 12:59:12 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: My Favorite Headache

“Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews just got their shows booked for tonight”

Too bad he didn’t mention those two clowns by name.

92 posted on 11/01/2007 1:04:44 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: jrooney

Yeah the last time was 1941. I am glad to see they are doing at least as good. /sarc.

93 posted on 11/01/2007 1:06:04 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: njrep
This president is a man in the truest sense of the word. He has conviction and purpose and unlike the average and greater majority of politicians is not swayed from them by public sentiment ginned up by biased polls. Clearly he is fighting for this country’s very existence and despite the pathetic power mongers on the left he will see his plan through until he leaves the job. It is his leadership that so infuriates the media and the spineless on the left because they see in him someone they could never hope to be, a principled and totally dedicated individual.

His legacy will not be written for many years yet and I have no doubt as to how good it will be.

Right on, right on! His leadership, resolve and class will be missed for quite some time in the WH. Men like President GWB don't come around all that often...and even less into such positions as he is in now.

God bless him and his family.

We should also take solace in the fact that this POTUS takes his job very seriously and still has well over a year left.....He will continue to lead and continue to take the fight to our enemies until his last minutes in office. Those that think politics or the 08 elections will get in the way......Don't understand this man.

94 posted on 11/01/2007 1:11:31 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Mygirlsmom

Dimocrat candidates have to say many things to garner the votes needed to be elected to office. Once in office, after receiving a complete briefing on the intel and information on the WOT, they will quite likely act differently. We’ll see if one of the Dims gets elected if they do the right thing, or pander to their base.

95 posted on 11/01/2007 1:23:35 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: jrooney

It is not the government who is protecting us, it is God who is! We all should be on our knees thanking God for His protection. By His grace we have been kept from chaos. Praise YOU, God, and Thank YOU!

96 posted on 11/01/2007 1:27:36 PM PDT by Truth_will_rule_eventually (Want more taxes? Vote Democrat.)
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To: I see my hands

That’s what I figured your response would be.

97 posted on 11/01/2007 1:31:54 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: jrooney
Not an immigration thread. Let us not hijack it, okay?

I don't see anyone talking about immigration on this thread. If you and others like you don't understand the difference between immigration and ILLEGAL immigration and you can't see the connection between our wide open borders and the WOT, then you are hopelessly naive.

98 posted on 11/01/2007 1:34:56 PM PDT by Ima Lurker
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To: DevSix

Few do understand him and those are the ones who think he MUST do everything they want him to do or else he is a “bad” conservative. They forget that from the beginning he called himself a ‘compassionate’ conservative.

He has done things I am not happy with (immigration) but my satisfaction with him in other areas outweigh any disappointment in the area of immigration. In the WOT and it’s prosecution, we could not have invented a man more qualified and determined then is this man, George W. Bush.

99 posted on 11/01/2007 1:35:06 PM PDT by njrep
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To: jihadistalert
From your first site:

A portion of the website is entitled “Islam is Not the Enemy.” There they will find pro-Western, pro-American, pro-democracy and even pro-Israel statements and opinions from Muslim leaders and scholars. On this portion of the site, for example, you’ll hear a Saudi mufti exhorting Saudi youth not to engage in jihad. On all parts of, we have used the best translators that we could find, and we openly invite scrutiny. In our TV spot, we expect that we will be accused of taking some of the quotations from Jihadists out of context, so we provide the context. In other words, for each of the 5 to 10 second quotations we feature in the TV spot, we provide a link to the longer, two minute to twenty minute speeches or remarks from which the quotations were drawn. We have yet to receive a single charge that the translations are inaccurate or slanted, or that the TV spot features misleading quotations – and that’s after having received over half a million hits since the site was established just a few months ago. Whether in response to Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week or just in your general interest in being an informed citizen, you owe it to yourself to visit, and then to invite your friends, especially your politically-correct liberal friends, to do the same. This has been Colin Hanna of Let Freedom Ring for American Radio Journal. Please also visit our........

Yada yada yada. That tripe ain't gonna work on me. Here's a little explanation of islam and what it holds in store for me and mine if it can.

"The answer is that the Koran is mostly one long, harsh, belligerent diatribe against infidels. According to the Koran that person who does not accept God's supposed revelations to Mohammed (i.e. the "unbeliever") will be damned by God to endless suffering in a fiery hell. It is a constantly recurring theme appearing on nearly every page. And God does not only punish the "unbeliever" but he takes great delight in watching him writhe in anguish. The God of the Koran is a God of vengeance and spite. The Koran is a book filled with venom --- venom against all non-Muslims but especially against Jews and Christians.

The words of the Koran are supposedly the words of God himself spoken through the Angel Gabriel. The Koran is repetitious in the extreme, very boring, and very deficient in anything profound. It is not what one would expect of a religious book. God's malice toward the unbeliever, i.e. the non-Muslim, pervades from cover to cover. The attitude projected is that the infidels (meaning Christians, Jews, all non-Muslims) are detested by God; that they are evil; that they are excrement, scum, the filth of the earth. According to the Koran all non- Muslims are rejected of God, damned by God, evil, worthless, fit only to be destroyed. The Koran abounds in explicit references to Christians and Jews. All are condemnatory. The spirit that the Koran projects is one of belligerence, anger and hatred towards the non-Muslim. The Koran repeatedly commands the Muslim to make no friends with the non-Muslim. Do we find an emphasis on such things as kindness, love your neighbor, peaceableness, forgiveness, judge not, etc. in its pages (such as what we find in the teachings of Christ and Christianity)? No. Not at all. Nowhere. The Muslim attitude is "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth." The Koranic concept of right action is to mercilessly and cruelly slaughter the infidel --- to eliminate them. That is right and meritful action in the eyes of the Koran. As one reads the Koran one cannot help but notice all the harshness, meanness and cruelty that is found on almost every page. It is a book of harshness, meanness and cruelty."

I'm an infidel and a woman that's a double whammy where islam is involved. 9-11 taught me all I need to know about islam.

100 posted on 11/01/2007 1:51:47 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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