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Posted on 11/01/2007 10:28:47 AM PDT by blam
Melting Glacier Reveals Ancient Tree Stumps
Tue Oct 30, 2:15 PM ET
Melting glaciers in Western Canada are revealing tree stumps up to 7,000 years old where the region's rivers of ice have retreated to a historic minimum, a geologist said today.
Johannes Koch of The College of Wooster in Ohio found the fresh-looking, intact tree stumps beside retreating glaciers in Garibaldi Provincial Park, about 40 miles (60 kilometers) north of Vancouver, British Columbia.
Radiocarbon dating of the wood from the stumps revealed the wood was far from freshsome of it dated back to within a few thousand years of the end of the last ice age.
"The stumps were in very good condition sometimes with bark preserved," said Koch, who conducted the work as part of his doctoral thesis at Simon Fraser University in Burnaby, British Columbia. Koch will present his results on Oct. 31 at the Geological Society of America annual meeting in Denver.
The pristine condition of the wood, he said, can best be explained by the stumps having spent all of the last seven millennia under tens to hundreds of meters of ice. All stumps were still rooted to their original soil and location.
"Thus they really indicate when the glaciers overrode them, and their kill date gives the age of the glacier advance," Koch said. The age of the newly revealed ancient trees also indicates how long the glaciers have covered this region.
The recently warming climate released the stumps from their icy tombs, Koch said.
Koch compared the kill dates of the trees in the southern and northern Coast Mountains of British Columbia and those in the mid- and southern Rocky Mountains in Canada to similar records from the Yukon Territory, the European Alps, New Zealand and South America. He also looked at the age of Oetzi, the prehistoric mummified alpine "Iceman" found at Niederjoch Glacier, and similarly well-preserved wood from glaciers and snowfields in Scandinavia.
The radiocarbon dates seem to be the same around the world, according to Koch. There have been many advances and retreats of these glaciers over the past 7,000 years, but no retreats that have pushed them back so far upstream as to expose these trees.
The age of the tree stumps gives new emphasis to the well-documented before-and-after photographs of retreating glaciers during the past 100 years.
"It seems like an unprecedented change in a short amount of time," Koch said. "From this work and many other studies looking at forcings of the climate system, one has to turn away from natural ones alone to explain this dramatic change of the past 150 years."
You mean 7,000 years ago we had global warming too?
That’s impossible. We’re constantly told that right now is the warmest we’ve ever been.
Yeah, but that was good global warming.
So the trees grew there when it was much warmer in the past then today obviously.
It was natural back then for trees to grow there and no ice?
But... not now?
The last paragraph was written by someone worried about future government funding for their chosen field of study.
If they are finding tree stumps,
that means there were trees at one time,
which means the ice didn’t cover the area,
which means there must have been global warming 7,000 years ago.
Those melting glaciers could mess up the current global warming cries.
Unbelievable. Clearly, a natural process buried these trees in ice. But the reverse process simply MUST be caused by man.
No, we had global COOLING. The global warming was for a long period preceding that.
That part always seems to get glossed over in these articles.
The discovery and proliferation of fire by cavemen allowed these trees to grow during the last human-induced globull warming period. Early Man Bear Pig then killed all the cavemen and presto, Ice Age.
If a glacier destroys a forest, and nobody hears it.......
He is a globull warming alarmist to the end. While the globull warming 7,000 years ago HAD to have been a natural occurance, there is NO WAY it is THIS time. </sarc>
The planet is just naturally switching its temperature, as it does from time to time. Al Gore doesn’t have a damn thing to do with it. We’re coming out of the “little ice age”.
The invention of photography, which coincided with the discovery of socialism explains most of the dramatic change.