Skip to comments.How Huckabee Could Rock the 2008 Vote
Posted on 11/04/2007 4:11:53 PM PST by dano1
Huckabee is for real -- a man poised to go further on the national stage than any other candidate produced by the Christian conservative movement. Sure, some pundits still write him off, and back home, detractors insist that he's just angling for a plum Cabinet post. But you can spot an awfully convincing blueprint for how the candidate once tagged as "the hillbilly Ronald Reagan" could win the Republican nomination -- or end up as the inevitable vice presidential pick on a GOP ticket led by Rudy Giuliani. That's more than you can say for some of Huckabee's rivals.
Huckabee's mere survival through Iowa and New Hampshire would suddenly become a huge political story. Coasting on media attention, Michigan's Jan. 15 GOP primary would become less important to Huckabee as the Republicans' attention turns to South Carolina's Jan. 19 primary: the preacher's chance to shine. While he has yet to win over politically pragmatic Christian conservative leaders who wonder about his electability and worry about his weak fundraising, it's hard to imagine them turning their backs on one of their own at the very moment when Huckabee will be closer to the Oval Office than any other Republican Southern Baptist in history.
Huckabee will move on to another good opportunity with Florida's contest 10 days later, then brace for the major primary payday on Feb. 5, when Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee and several other heavily Southern Baptist states cast their votes. When the dust settles on Feb. 6, carrying the South would let Huckabee have a one-on-one duel, possibly with Giuliani, that enables him to showcase his greatest asset: his personality. Could that take him all the way? The abrasive Giuliani, or any other finalist, would rule that out at his peril. (snip)
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Those interested in Huckabee’s candidacy may wish to read this entire Washington Post article, which is extremely positive and upbeat about Huckabee’s chances.
...as in SINK it like.
I’m rather lukewarm on Huckabee, but I’d vote for him in a second against any one of the Dems.
The COMPost humping for Huckster is all we need to know. Just say NADA !
Not sure who I will go with in the primaries,I know it wont be Rudy.If it comes down to Rudy in the general I will go with him over any Dem.
My sentiments exactly...
When will he do it?
The Washington Post and New York Times are Huckabee’s biggest proponents.
I confess, that sentence does terrify me.
“The Washington Compost will print anything to help elect a democrat”
It’s a gushy, mushy piece of work, going to the extent of arguing away the importance of the Michigan primary.
Thompson’s got the smart folks, letting everyone else run around, saving the money for a tv ad/internet video blitz.
Huckabee is not a Reagan, he’s a George W. Bush. Another “compassionate conservative”, which means corporate conservative, giving more govt. money to private businesses under the rubric of charity. Huckabee is the wage-depression-money-lobby fantasy candidate.
I like him. But I like Fred and Mitt as well.
Huckabee may be a Christian candidate, but he's no conservative.
He's weak on immigration and believes that the force of government should be used to control people's private behaviors. He also thinks that the money earned by private citizens is well spent by the government.
I do so wish that the press would be more careful with their usage of the word "conservative." If I didn't know better, I might be inclined to believe that they are deliberately misleading.
The two conservatives in the presidential race are Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter.
Gomer for President?
Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter are good men. It’s a pity that they’re not viable candidates.
No slams here, but what are the top 3 or 4 reasons you see Huck as preferable to the rest of the field?
Truth Squad: Immigration Facts
November 02, 2007
It has been reported that Mike Huckabee supported benefits for illegals immigrants while he was Governor of Arkansas.
Governor Huckabee never supported benefits for illegal immigrants. In Arkansas, illegal immigrants do not receive welfare benefits or food stamps. Governor Huckabee has always, and will always be supportive of the laws and regulations of the country.
It has also been said that Mike Huckabee was in favor of providing college scholarships for illegal immigrants while he was Governor.
The governor only supported the measure that applied to those who met the academic qualifications and applied for legal citizenship. The measure didn't pass. Governor Huckabee stressed that any student would simply be treated as any other graduate of an Arkansas High School, and not given any special consideration.
Critics say that Governor Huckabee's motives behind opening a Mexican consulate office in Little Rock was to court illegals to come work in Arkansas.
The Mexican consulate provided Arkansas businesses with access to Mexico and opportunities to expand their markets, and would help further ensure that immigrants from Mexico are legal and better able to secure legal documentation. At the same time, the office would open up opportunities for Mexican investors to invest money with Arkansas partners, which would help create more jobs in the state.
This is upbeat information about Huckabee. I’ve disliked him for rumors that he’s pro illegals. I haven’t paid enough attention to him because of this.
Everyone keeps saying Thompson's going to do something, but so far I haven't seen him do anything.
Maybe he's the tortoise in this race, but he has yet to do or say anything I find impressive. I'm still trying to figure out why he gets so much attention.
BE WARY, my fellow Christian Conservatives, of the candidate the WaPo gives positive print space to!
There is much on FR to read about the man, and we owe it to future generations to know ALL about each and every candidate before casting our vote.
He’s the poster boy, bought and paid for, of Healthy People 2010, thus indirectly against homeschooling and pro global health care! He was a big taxer and a so so governor! He is very soft on illegal aliens, wanting cheap labor for Arkansas, reminiscent of pre-Civil War days! He is NOT a conservative!
True conservatives will vote for the one true conservative running, Duncan Lee Hunter.
And the mexican consulate can issue Matricula cards that can be accepted for employment and Driver’s “Licences”
Hmm think Tyson foods need for workers at the Chicken processing plants has something to do with that Consulate opening up in Ark?
Huck also stated that people who opposed Amnesty were racists, I’m a bit indifferent toward Huckabee, could do better, could do worse, but the soft shoe seems in need of some commentary.
Huckabees against this and that..........”The governor only supported the measure that applied to those who met the academic qualifications and applied for legal citizenship.”
He means if an illegal alien has good grades and promises to become a citizen he gets the same privileges of any high school student.
PROBLEM! THEY ARE STILL LAWBREAKING ILLEGALS!!!! NO I don’t believe in special privileges.....much....
yes he is for real. A real huckster, that has sold his sole to tyson chicken and illegal slave labor. Nanny sate liberal and is a peg are two below ron raul.
For me, it's sort of a process of elimination. The following is my take on things. (Please note, no offense is intended to anyone's favorite candidate. I'm only stating my personal impressions since I was asked.)
I like Romney but I think Dems would beat us bloody on the flip-flopper charge if we nominate him, since we did that to them with Kerry.
I liked McCain, but my impression is that he is just not a sharp as he once was, I think just because of aging. He's just doesn't seem to be at the top of his game any more.
Thompson's campaigning has just been underwhelming. He doesn't seem to want it enough or think he needs to convince anyone who doesn't already support him.
Giulianli is way too liberal and has too much personal baggage.
So, IMHO, Huckabee might be the best of the frontrunners at this time. Again, these are just my thoughts. I'd be interested in hearing what other people think.
With due respect, Numbers USA would take exception to those facts as stated by the “truth squad”.
>>>I might be inclined to believe that they are deliberately misleading.
That is my thought.
Do you consider 1986, “until recently”? If not you perhaps should recant or restate. Duncan Hunter opposed the 1986 amnesty, got the fence built in his district and then wrote the law for 854 miles of double-fence across our southern border.
It’s a matter of record and Hunter did a lot towards border security and illegal immigration before Tancredo was even in congress.
I want to like him, but there are so many questions. Unfortunately, he has the ability and record to make Bush look like a fiscal conservative.
Personally, I do not trust Mike Huckabee ( or Mitt Romney either ).
The real conservatives in the Presidential race are Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter, and Ron Paul, who is an extreme isolationist, but also a constitutional conservative.
However, any Republican would be better to have in the White House than any Democrat; because the Republican would answer to us ( as the outcome of Harriet Meiers nomination demonstrated ), while the Democrat would answer to George Soros and Al Gore.
“No program will be this destructive to the U.S.”
I agree with you. Stopping Al Gore’s Ecopalyptic insanity is the most important issue facing the country; now that the open-border lobby is at least temporarily on the run.
I’ve met ‘im. Nice guy. Decent bass player. Don’t like his puppying up to the Hispanic community by openly condoning, embracing illegal immigration.
He needs to get his mind right.....then? Good chances.
Anyway, for what it's worth, I'll paste below what some others have written on the same topic. (Thanks again for the link.)
From "Huckabee Attacks Unfounded", posting on RedState by radicalconservative Where does Huckabee really stand on the issue of illegal immigration? At first glance of all the chatter, some of the news stories, and the editorials out there floating around, one would believe that Huckabee is, not only soft on illegal immigration, but actually, farther to the left of the issue than our current President. After reading all of the stories out there and listening to the facts in the case against Huckabee, I was beginning to have some serious doubts about the sincerity of this candidate myself, who is admittedly a strong Huckabee supporter.
However, upon doing a little research on this particular issue I discovered that, as usual, there is more than one side to the story. Evidently, the truth of the matter goes a little more like this: Huckabee opposes illegal immigration, supports sealing the border, and opposes amnesty. In a perfect world that would be enough, but this is no perfect world as we all know. The fact of the matter is that there are millions of illegals in this country already, and there is a constant flow of them across our borders each and every day. Another fact, Huckabee supports the deportation of illegal immigrants, but he believes that the process should be a better one.
Case in point is the 119 illegals deported in an Arkansas raid of a plant in 2005, in which officials, without having properly done their homework, proceeded to deport the illegals leaving their children behind here in the states to be a burden to our already overloaded system.
Also, according to the Arkansas State Constitution, children of all ages, whether legal or illegal are entitled to an education. Huckabee following the logic of the state's Constitution, supported allowing children of the illegals to attend Arkansas colleges at in-state rates. Bear in mind these are not individuals who came here illegally, but rather the offspring of those individuals. Holding said offspring responsible for the sins of the parents is like holding anyone else responsible for some crime committed by their forefathers. This is a preposterous notion, a dangerous road, and completely inconsistent with the ideology of compassionate conservatism.
Now, before anyone goes hysterical here, let me point out that we are not suggesting that illegals, who are defiantly in violation of the law, be given any form of amnesty, nor is there any promotion of the idea of an open border here. However, as in any crime or act of wrongdoing their are always innocents involved who may become collateral damage. Let's be clear there should be a secure border between the U.S. and its bordering nations, there should be no amnesty, and there should always be consequences for breaking the law, but we must remember to follow the ideology of compassionate conservatism as well. After all our system is a system of checks and balances, and we must not forget that there are two sides to the scales of justice. These are the principles that guide Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee. These are the principles that should guide every American.
Source can be found at http://mikehuckabeepresident2008.blogspot.com/2005/08/msm-huckabee-right-on-illegal.html
And from Byron York at National Review Online:
"On immigration , Huckabee is a strong advocate of a fence across the entire U.S.Mexico border. While Congress debates guest-worker programs, Huckabee tells me, the most important problem is being ignored. Seal the border, he says. Until you do that, you dont have any control over how many people are coming in, who they are, and where theyre going. At the same time, Huckabee has taken criticism for his proposal, as governor, to offer Arkansas in-state tuition to illegal aliens and their children. I have always said you dont punish a child for the crime of a parent, Huckabee tells me. Frankly, its in our best interest to try to get that child on to a higher level of education.
I really think he’s going to be the Running Mate.
AMEN. I agree — say no to Huckabee. He raised taxes repeatedly in Arkansas, has his share of ethical problems...and has attacked President Bush over the war on terror. He is NOT what we need.
I have a close friend who is very positive about Huckabee. I must say that I am less positive about him, but from what I can see, though I would have policy disagreements with him in a number of areas, he seems to be a good man. That counts for a lot with me, so I would vote for him without reservations if he were the nominee.
Running mate of what ? Not Fred’s.
His positions on illegals was the worst. Nevermind he left the state GOP in its weakest state in 36 years. 1 federal officeholder and zero statewide. Dreadful fiasco like Precious Willard of Ratsachusetts.
>>>3) ONLY True ProLife Candidate
No, but if God forbid either Romney or Guiliani get the nod, Huckabee's the regional and idealological (to a point) balance.
Thursday, Jun 30, 2005
By Wesley Brown
Arkansas News Bureau
LITTLE ROCK - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life.
"I would hope that no matter who we are, or where we are from, that America should always be a place that opens its arms, opens it heart, opens its spirit to people who come because they want the best for their families ...," Huckabee said as the largely Hispanic audience gave him a standing ovation.
Huckabee was the keynote speaker, along with Tyson Foods Inc. Chairman and CEO John Tyson, at a noon luncheon of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which is holding its 76th annual convention in Little Rock.
About 10,000 political, community and business leaders, along with exhibitors and speakers are in Little Rock attending the convention at the Statehouse Convention Center. The convention started Monday and runs through Saturday.
Although he never actually talked about the U.S. or Arkansas immigration policy, Huckabee made it very clear where he stood on the issue. In his opening remarks, he said the nation will need to address the concerns of the Hispanic community because of its growing influence and population base.
He told the LULAC delegates that their presence in the state's capital city was very important because Arkansas has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the nation. "Your gathering is so very significant for our state," Huckabee said. "We are delighted to have you."
Despite several light moments, Huckabee did not stray away from several controversial issues that made him a target of criticism during the recently ended 85th General Assembly. He said Arkansas needs to make the transition from a traditional Southern state to one that recognizes and cherishes diversity "in culture, in language and in population."
"This is an issue that is going to require extraordinary efforts on both sides of the border, particularly those coming from Mexico," Huckabee said of verifying the status of illegal aliens. "But I am confident that our government will recognize that we should accommodate people who wish to provide the best opportunities for their families (and) employers so that we can make sure our economy has the necessary work force."
During the legislation session, Huckabee criticized an immigration bill by Republican senators Jim Holt of Springdale and Denny Altes of Fort Smith as un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life. Senate Bill 206, which died in the Senate, would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and also force state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally. Holt, R-Springdale, replied later to Huckabee's comments that Christian charity does not include turning a blind eye to lawbreaking.
That’s absolutely right. Scary stuff.
Huckster, he puts the “Fee” in fiasco.
THAT was funny.
Like you, I also tend to put a lot of weight on my impression of a candidate's character.