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Pat Robertson Endorses Giuliani for President
NY Times ^ | November 7, 2007 | MICHAEL COOPER and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 11/07/2007 3:05:16 PM PST by neverdem

Rudolph W. Giuliani scored a coup today by winning the support of Pat Robertson, who, as one of the nation’s best-known televangelists, could help Mr. Giuliani reassure Republicans who are wary of his support for abortion rights and gay rights.

Mr. Robertson, the founder and chairman of the Christian Broadcasting Network, said in endorsing Mr. Giuliani in Washington, that he believed “the overriding issue before the American people is the defense of our population from the blood lust of Islamic terrorists” and praised Mr. Giuliani as a “true fiscal conservative.”

While Mr. Robertson did not mention Mr. Giuliani’s support of abortion rights, he said approvingly that Mr. Giuliani “has assured the American people that his choices for judicial appointments will be men and women who share the judicial philosophy of John Roberts and Antonin Scalia,” who have argued against Roe v. Wade.

The endorsement comes just a month after a coalition of other prominent Christian conservatives threatened to back a third-party candidate if Mr. Giuliani were to become the Republican Party’s presidential nominee. The support of Mr. Robertson could not only help Mr. Giuliani present himself as a viable candidate to the Christian right, but could also help him improve his standings in Iowa: Mr. Robertson finished second in the Iowa caucuses during his own run for president in 1988.

And the announcement threatened to overshadow an important conservative endorsement being announced by Senator John McCain of Arizona — the backing of Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas, who recently ended his own bid for president. While Mr. McCain opposes abortion rights, he has sometimes been viewed with suspicion by anti-abortion groups who felt muzzled by the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law that he helped pass, so the endorsement by Mr. Brownback, a staunch social conservative, was seen as an important achievement...

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Pat Robertson endorses Rudy Giuliani.
77% Oppose Drivers’ Licenses for Undocumented Immigrants

That's great timing Pat. Nominate Giuliani and the GOP can't use those sentiments linked above, and the left by all appearances wants this to be a Giulani v. Clinton contest.

1 posted on 11/07/2007 3:05:16 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Pat Robertson knows what most seasoned political people know, the choice is between Rudy and Mitt.

I guess Pat thinks being a Mormon is a bigger sin than being pro-abortion.
2 posted on 11/07/2007 3:07:52 PM PST by elizabetty ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: neverdem

And in other news,

John the Baptist endorses King Ahab and Queen Jezebel in the upcoming municipal elections in Jerusalem.


3 posted on 11/07/2007 3:08:37 PM PST by mkjessup
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To: elizabetty
"I guess Pat thinks being a Mormon is a bigger sin than being pro-abortion"

That's not a guess. It's a fantasy. Robertson states clearly his reasons.


4 posted on 11/07/2007 3:12:00 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: neverdem
Shouldn't Pat be checking his tire pressure or something?

(don't ask)

5 posted on 11/07/2007 3:13:53 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: neverdem

I’ve never wished for anyone to go home and be with the Lord, but I’m getting close.


6 posted on 11/07/2007 3:16:26 PM PST by PROCON
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To: neverdem

Bye, bye, Pat! I reckon that you have got so damned rich that protecting your wealth is paramount!
Only thing I am sure about is that Jesus really gets upset, about liars!


7 posted on 11/07/2007 3:16:30 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: elizabetty

If Rudy follows through on his promise to appoint Supreme Court justices in the mold of Scalia, Roberts, and Thomas, then I don’t care what Rudy’s personal beliefs are.

After all, almost every Democrat says that they are personally against abortion or want to make abortion “safe, legal, and rare” then they appoint judges that are slightly to the left of Stalin.

Rudy has repeated his promise many, many times. If he backs down by appointing a non-constructionist, then the Christian base will give him total h311. I’m willing to give him a try.


8 posted on 11/07/2007 3:16:36 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: mkjessup

HAHAHAHAH!!! that was awesome


9 posted on 11/07/2007 3:16:57 PM PST by spacekicker
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To: elizabetty; Liz
I guess Pat thinks being a Mormon is a bigger sin than being pro-abortion.

I wouldn't be so sure there was anything so theologically principled involved. Obviously, political principle was completely abandoned as well. Robertson has gone senile. Giuliani should be embarrassed to be trying to pull this.

Sad and sickening for unscrupulous people like Giuliani to humiliate Robertson like this. Even more shameful is that one or more key persons in the Robertson organization was paid off in some way (perhaps jobs for them or their kids) with Giuliani.

Giuliani has bought political support before. Remember that NY Liberal Party guy whose son got hired by Rudi so he could fly his gay buddies to Aspen and download gay porn on city computers all day long? Same thing, I bet.

Robertson, after a shameful career, is the only leader on the Religious Right to endorse the leftwing mayor. All the rest who have declared went to Romney or are still holding out, trying to pick between Fred and Romney but with most likely to end up with Mitt.
10 posted on 11/07/2007 3:18:51 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“Bye, bye, Pat! I reckon that you have got so damned rich that protecting your wealth is paramount!”

Diamond Pat Robertson doesn’t do anything without a money angle.

What was it here? Did Rudy promise reduce enforcement against blood diamond trading?


11 posted on 11/07/2007 3:20:31 PM PST by Shermy ("A rising tide lifts all boats" ...but lowers those on the other side of the ocean.)
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To: DallasMike

Well said.


12 posted on 11/07/2007 3:20:42 PM PST by Mister Politics (www.misterpolitics.com)
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To: elizabetty

It’s gotta be that. Surely he wouldn’t be naive enough to think a man that would restrict Second Amendment rights would be the right guy to help defend our population. And I doubt the judicial nominations would be enough to offset some of the more left-leaning policies that Giuliani has.


13 posted on 11/07/2007 3:22:26 PM PST by faloi
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To: DallasMike
Rudy has repeated his promise many, many times. If he backs down by appointing a non-constructionist, then the Christian base will give him total h311. I’m willing to give him a try.

Have you considered that you might be an idiot? Once he gets our nomination, he'll never need us again.

No, he has always been our enemy. He is proud to have been our enemy. He linked arms with our worst enemies including the Xlintons and NARAL to grab guns, promote abortion, promote sodomy, and generally heap scorn on the conservative base of our party. And his enthusiasm for appointing conservative judges is quite new, since he filled a lot of court appointments in NYC with barely a Republican in the whole lot?

You might as well just vote for Her Thighness.
14 posted on 11/07/2007 3:23:16 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: All
Laura Ingraham On Pat Robertson Endorsing Rudy Giuliani

41 second audio from YouTube that's easily heard.

15 posted on 11/07/2007 3:28:20 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
Know it all Robertson stuck us with Bush. He is always wrong. What about all the wives that Guiliani has had? What about homosexual marriage? What about partial birth abortion? What about cross-dressing? What about the fact that Guiliani cannot win against the hildabeast?

My personal favorite is the way Guiliani let his wife Donna Hanover know that he was divorcing her. He announced it at a press conference before he told her.

The other day I read that Guiliani had a love shack near the trade towers where he went to be with Judith Nathan. I heard Judith Nathan made her living experimenting on poor, live dogs. She sold staple guns to doctors. She displayed the guns by using them on live dogs after the dogs were cut open just for the sake of her staple guns.

16 posted on 11/07/2007 3:31:20 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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To: DallasMike
Rudy's nominated = 3rd party
17 posted on 11/07/2007 3:32:07 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: neverdem

Wow, I haven’t seen this thread yet today. /sarc


18 posted on 11/07/2007 3:32:11 PM PST by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: DallasMike

As much as I love GWB, I am tired of empty promises. I don’t trust Rudy to do the right thing on judges at all.


19 posted on 11/07/2007 3:33:26 PM PST by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: faloi
Surely he wouldn’t be naive enough to think a man that would restrict Second Amendment rights would be the right guy to help defend our population.

Did you hear how Rudy changed his mind about the Second Amendment? He told a recent NRA convocation that September 11, 2001 made him change his mind about gun control, IIRC.

20 posted on 11/07/2007 3:35:36 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
Laura Ingraham On Pat Robertson Endorsing Rudy Giuliani

Oh, man, Laura is awesome. Pat's gonna get a "Throw Momma From The Train" cameo once Rudi has no more use for him.

You gotta love a blunt woman like Laura. She nails it!
21 posted on 11/07/2007 3:36:02 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: neverdem
He told a recent NRA convocation that September 11, 2001 made him change his mind about gun control, IIRC.

Are you sure? Or was that just his "wife" (campaign handlers) spoonfeeding him those lines from a cell phone?
22 posted on 11/07/2007 3:37:39 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: DallasMike

“If Rudy follows through on his promise to appoint Supreme Court justices in the mold of Scalia, Roberts, and Thomas, then I don’t care what Rudy’s personal beliefs are.”

That’s one hell of a big “if.”

What if he appoints Ginsburg clones? Would you then back an actual conservative against him in 2012?


23 posted on 11/07/2007 3:41:07 PM PST by Grunthor (Liberals need to be reminded that The Holy Bible is more than just Godís opinion.)
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To: rintense
Wow, I haven’t seen this thread yet today. /sarc

This thread from the paper of record with my link that means Hillary is toast, and we don't need Rudy to beat her?

24 posted on 11/07/2007 3:41:30 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

Maybe Rootie is soft on blood diamonds and African despot dictators.


25 posted on 11/07/2007 3:44:04 PM PST by DemEater
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To: neverdem
I think Pat is a smarter man than most people on FR who constantly bash him.

True, he deserves to be bashed hard on his weird prophecies, but he has accomplished quite a lot in his lifetime. For a man to create a conservative media empire in the middle of the liberal wasteland of media is no small feat; and his education of rank-and-file christians on political issues has been monumental over the last decades thru the christian coalition and his media pipeline. For these works he should be commended, notwithstanding the incessant hatred he's faced from the liberals and the conservatives like those on FR who follow their lead.

Pat's opinion shouldn't be discounted IMO. I find it very interesting that he's endorsing Giuliani. Huge plus for Rudy IMO.

26 posted on 11/07/2007 3:44:22 PM PST by what's up
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To: neverdem; TitansAFC; wagglebee; pissant; AuntB; Ultra Sonic 007; Sun; RasterMaster; DakotaRed; ...

Ping!

Guess who is supporting Rooty? Guess who is supporting Mclame?


27 posted on 11/07/2007 3:52:45 PM PST by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: neverdem
Wowwww! I thought I’d never see that picture.

I hope the next one won’t have them both in dresses, wigs and makeup!

28 posted on 11/07/2007 4:02:15 PM PST by drpix
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To: neverdem
Did you hear how Rudy changed his mind about the Second Amendment? He told a recent NRA convocation that September 11, 2001 made him change his mind about gun control, IIRC.

How can anybody trust anything this power hungry BS artist says

He didn't realize what the 2nd amendment was about till 911

What BS

His 911 crap is equivalent to Kerry's serving in Vietnam

I hope the NYPD and NYFD Swift Boat his two faced butt
29 posted on 11/07/2007 4:25:04 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: uncbob

So .. If it’s Rudy or Hillery , I guess your vote will be to stay home and do nothing ?

After this Congress , You have to vote - Your vote will determin the direction of the country.

The primaries are the play off’s - Your team win’s or doesn’t

The Super Bowl, Well thats the confrence ... Some what like minded people have to Govern. I hope it’s our side. What will you do ?


30 posted on 11/07/2007 4:39:49 PM PST by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: reefdiver

I ain’t voting for Rudy

If the choice is Rudy or Hillary the country is already lost


31 posted on 11/07/2007 4:43:55 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: uncbob

Well - What ever


32 posted on 11/07/2007 5:14:44 PM PST by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: what's up

-—”Pat’s opinion shouldn’t be discounted IMO. I find it very interesting that he’s endorsing Giuliani. Huge plus for Rudy IMO.”-—

Pat endorsed Dole in the GOP Primaries in 1996, Bush Sr. in 1992. In fact, he’s endorsed the most Socially Liberal Republican candidate in every election since Reagan - during the primaries, not just the General Election. He all but endorsed Rudy911 for President as far back as 2004 - this is no surprise. He has always believed the more Liberal the GOP candidate, the better his chances.

He opposed the Clinton Impeachment, opposes the Death Penalty, believes in Man-Made Global Warming,.........I mean seriously, the man is not a “Conservative.” You seem to confuse “Republican and Preacher” with “Conservative.”

He’s never been a very Conservative Republican, neither is his media outlet.

And for all of the achievements you point out as positives - they are all meaningless if he’s willing to sell out every principle he’s preached just because he really hates Hillary.

I think less of Pat after this, not more of Rudy911.

And I will still never, ever - under ANY circumstance - EVER vote for Rudy911. So help me God. To hell with the Grand New Party if Rudy911 gets the nod.


33 posted on 11/07/2007 5:17:05 PM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: neverdem
As long as Republicans continue to allow the lamestream media to set who is best, who is the front-runner, and who we should vote for, this is what we get.

I’m for ignoring the media and getting behind who has the best conservative values.

Only one candidate fits, Duncan Hunter.

It is up to us to vote a true conservative in and ignore the spoon fed pablum the media throws at us. Otherwise, we get what we get.

34 posted on 11/07/2007 5:18:27 PM PST by DakotaRed (Liberals don't rattle sabers, they wave white flags)
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To: George W. Bush
You might as well just vote for Her Thighness.

One of the stupidest things I've seen written here.

35 posted on 11/07/2007 5:42:00 PM PST by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: reefdiver

Good thing there are smarter people out there than some found here.


36 posted on 11/07/2007 5:45:09 PM PST by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: Keeper of the Turf; George W. Bush
-—”You might as well just vote for Her Thighness.

One of the stupidest things I’ve seen written here-—”

Actually, the stupidest thing I see here is the following:

1.) The Democrats hate Rudy911.
2.) Conservatives hate Rudy911.
3.) Somehow, this translates into electoral victory in the minds of the Rudophiles. Go figure.

I’ll never vote for Rudy911, under any circumstance, EVER - So help me God.

37 posted on 11/07/2007 5:54:18 PM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: neverdem
I've lost a lot of respect for Robertson. He's been a little screwy before(can't think of specifics now) but at the very least, he should have kept his mouth SHUT! At least wait until there is more of a frontrunner. (Hopefully a real Conservative)

Nam Vet

38 posted on 11/07/2007 6:29:55 PM PST by Nam Vet (Timely reporting from Attila's right flank)
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To: Pinkbell

I’m especially disappointed in Brownback. Does the pro-ILLEGAL immigration issue trump the LIFE issue for Brownback?

The LEAST Robertson could have done was wait until after the primaries.

While I don’t especially care for Pat Robertson, I figured we were on the same page on the life issue.

Pat Robertson joined the chorus in saying that even though Rudy belives in abortion, the only thing that matters is the WOT.

Somebody tell me, can’t a person be pro-life and still be excellent on fighting the WOT?

In fact, Rudy would be the WORST candidate to fight the WOT, because he is so pro-ILLEGAL immigration, and Rudy has no military experience, like Duncan Hunter.

I do hope Rudy is voted out of the primaries.


39 posted on 11/07/2007 6:36:25 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: DallasMike

Since when do politicians keep all of their promises?

I don’t trust him to pick pro-life, conservative judges, because presidents always at least TRY to pick a nominee that matches their ideology.

Even Rudy admitted this when he said:

“Presidents, going back to the beginning of the republic, generally appoint people on the Supreme Court that they believe agree with them.”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163223,00.html


40 posted on 11/07/2007 6:40:53 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: DallasMike
It amazes me the hatred for Rudy, especially with his support of then FR conservative stalwarts such as Bill Simon and Bret Schundler.

It just reinforces my belief in the axiom of "no go deed goes unpunished".

41 posted on 11/07/2007 6:47:35 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Sun
The LEAST Robertson could have done was wait until after the primaries.

Huh? He isn't allowed to make his choice before the primary ballots are cast.

You seem to be a control freak in the vein of hillary, IMO.

42 posted on 11/07/2007 6:50:05 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: PROCON

Robertson’s credibility is zero.


43 posted on 11/07/2007 6:52:56 PM PST by SHEENA26
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Finish it:
Rudy’s nominated=3rd party=Democratic win assured
44 posted on 11/07/2007 6:53:10 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: neverdem

btt


45 posted on 11/07/2007 6:57:44 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Pinkbell

I thought thatBrownback first courted another front runner. McCain makes more sense, since they share amnesty for illegals.


46 posted on 11/07/2007 7:29:45 PM PST by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Sun

Yes. Brownback is the big dissapointment for me. I know he and Hunter differ in their immigration policy and their plan for the WOT, as Brownback supports a three state strategy and Hunter doesn’t. However, I always thought that Brownback’s biggest concern was life and the American family. He has sold both those values out to support the socially liberal McCain. McCain is liberal on immigration. I don’t know if he supports the three state strategy plan for the WOT or not, but I don’t recall him saying he does. He supports overturning Roe vs. Wade, but he does not support a Human Life Amendment. He also supports embryonic stem cell research. He doesn’t support a Marriage Amendment either, and I think he supports civil unions.

Pat Robertson says the WOT is important, but he neglects all the other issues. Why not support a candidate good on the WOT and the other issues like Duncan Hunter?


47 posted on 11/07/2007 7:33:10 PM PST by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: Paperdoll

It’s a shame he has put illegal immigrants over the 4,000 American children being destroyed in the womb every single day. I wish Guiliani and McCain would both drop out of the race, oh, and Ron Paul too.


48 posted on 11/07/2007 7:34:58 PM PST by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

>RUDY’S NOMINATED = 3rd party<

That’s probably exactly why the MSM is pie-eyed over Rooty.
No doubt MoveOn.org is behind him in some way, too.
A a third party would insure a win for Shillery.


49 posted on 11/07/2007 7:35:49 PM PST by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Pinkbell

We can dream, can’t we? :>)


50 posted on 11/07/2007 7:38:04 PM PST by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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