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Verbatim: 'America Can Count On France'
IBD | Noember 7, 2007 | Nicolas Sarkozy

Posted on 11/07/2007 5:19:53 PM PST by Kaslin

Following is the speech that French President Nicolas Sarkozy delivered Wednesday in a rare address by a foreign dignitary to a joint session of the Senate and House of Representatives. U.S. lawmakers gave the French leader a three-minute standing ovation and his address was met bursts of warm applause.

Madam Speaker, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the United States Congress, Ladies and Gentlemen, the state of our friendship and our alliance is strong.

Friendship, first and foremost, means being true to one's friends. Since the United States first appeared on the world scene, the loyalty between the French and American people has never failed. And far from being weakened by the vicissitudes of history, it has never ceased growing stronger.

Friends may have differences; they may have disagreements; they may have disputes. But in times of difficulty, in times of hardship, friends stand together, side by side; they support each other; and help one another. In times of difficulty, in times of hardship, America and France have always stood side by side, supported one another, helped one another, fought for each other's freedom.

The United States and France remain true to the memory of their common history, true to the blood spilled by their children in common battles. But they are not true merely to the memory of what they accomplished together in the past. They remain true, first and foremost, to the same ideal, the same principles, the same values that have always united them.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: allyfrance; france; sarkozy
CSPAN is showing the repeat of the speech right now
1 posted on 11/07/2007 5:19:54 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

For what?


2 posted on 11/07/2007 5:21:42 PM PST by Bronzewound
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To: Kaslin

I appreciate Sarkozy’s sentiment, BUT that horse ran out of the barn a long time ago...


3 posted on 11/07/2007 5:26:13 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: Bronzewound

Read the speech and maybe you find out


4 posted on 11/07/2007 5:26:42 PM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin

America can count on France?

Count on them to What?

One universal truth, rated up there with Death and Taxes, is to Never depend on France, as it will stab you in the back every time.


5 posted on 11/07/2007 5:35:28 PM PST by Eagle74 (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots)
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To: Kaslin

Now,if we could only count on the Democrats.....not to screw us.


6 posted on 11/07/2007 5:39:33 PM PST by 359Henrie (38 million illegals create a big carbon footprint. The real inconvenient truth.)
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To: Kaslin
The United States has always been able to count on France.. to oppose us at every turn. We can count on their undermining our efforts to use economic sanctions to try to avoid the necessity of military conflict when dealing with the tyrants and wannabe despots of the world.

When such sanctions are agreed to by rational nations, we can then count on France to subvert those sanctions whenever possible.

We can count on France to meet with, and establish collateral planning with any nation which chooses to jump on the anti-American bandwagon; to provide succor and moral support to those nations as morally bankrupt as the French.

We can even count on direct aid to our enemies... as a tool of the long-time French national policy of opposing the United States at all turns.

But there are other things we can also count on.

Once the French begin to reap the whirlwind of those policies they have sown, we can count on their about-face to seek our aid.

We can count on the sanctimonious superiority of the Europeans to melt in the wind, once they begin to see that the shadow of U.S. military deterrence they have basked in, and taken advantage of, may no longer shield the world from the consequences of the unrelenting anti-American agenda popular for so long in the U.N.

When the Iranians sneer at threats from Paris, and laugh at the European mindset of diplomacy at all costs... the decried "dangerous unilateralism" of the United States to act against madmen, even if we must alone, ... suddenly carries less cache at afternoon tea.

When the chips begin to fall, we can always count on the French.

7 posted on 11/07/2007 5:43:07 PM PST by pickrell (Old dog, new trick...sort of)
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To: Kaslin

I like Sarkozy. While he is in office, I think we really can count on the French. Sarkozy gets it.

Expect more of the same in the near future. Europe is just starting to realize it is in another fight for survival, this time against Islamism, so they are going to start making nice with the one nation they think might be avle to save them (again). This sentiment is being magnified by the return of an old threat, namely Russia who just abrogated the treaty that keeps their forces off of the European borders.

That said, I don’t know if we will be able to save Europe this time around given how the traitorous left has and will continue to weaken us...


8 posted on 11/07/2007 5:54:54 PM PST by piytar
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To: pickrell

“When the chips begin to fall, we can always count on the French.”

You managed to say what I meant with one short sentence. Nice! BTW, all of Old Europe (esp. the population) has become French in this context...


9 posted on 11/07/2007 5:59:15 PM PST by piytar
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To: Kaslin

Pinging myself to this thread to keep.


10 posted on 11/07/2007 6:02:26 PM PST by NordP (Such tough choices ahead, I'm now a "middle of the road" voter--somewhere between RUSH & Savage ;-))
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To: Kaslin

This speech showed to me that France is finally coming to realize that their highly valued culture is in jeopardy and that they have a whole lot more in common with us than they do with the muzzzies and their apologists.


11 posted on 11/07/2007 6:05:42 PM PST by charleywhiskey
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To: Kaslin

We can count on Sarko probably on key policy.

Depend on France? The history of the last century argues strongly to the contrary.


12 posted on 11/07/2007 6:13:05 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

In the end, you’ll be proven correct. Unfortunately.


13 posted on 11/07/2007 7:25:42 PM PST by pilipo
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To: Eagle74
One universal truth, rated up there with Death and Taxes, is to Never depend on France, as it will stab you in the back every time.

That's why it's going to be double disappointing if it's just more hollow rhetoric. Like a woman telling you she loves you while she picks your pocket. Expensive and insulting.

14 posted on 11/07/2007 8:07:49 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (keep the heat on the hillary.)
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To: George W. Bush

Go Sarko!
Come on folks, give the guy a break. It’s refreshing to hear pro-American rhetoric with a Gallic accent. Accept it.


15 posted on 11/07/2007 8:14:45 PM PST by Rsgood Dsbad
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To: Kaslin
maybe he's thinking...well, he believed Putin...maybe he'll buy this...

Even if he means what he says, let's see what happens when islam, russia, the namby-pamby euro-pricks, and china get france in their sites...

16 posted on 11/07/2007 8:20:10 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (keep the heat on the hillary.)
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To: Kaslin
I view Sarkozy’s speech as very good news. As an American living in Europe for 18 years, I’ve watched a lot of the European politics. We must be careful of talking about the “French.” There are the French people and then there are the French politicians. In the last French election, I believe the French people voted for Sarkozy largely because they didn’t think the socialist policies of his opponent, Segilene Royal (sp) were going to work anymore. They didn’t vote for Sarkozy because of his pro-American Middle East policies.

Nevertheless, He definitely understands the Middle Eastern problems that we all face. He chose Bernard Kouchner as his Foreign Minister. Kouchner was a very rare voice in France during the Chirac years that openly supported the invasion of Iraq. These two men will do all they can to work with us to contain the terrorist situations in the region. They will have some success and some failures with the French people, but we should appreciate their efforts. They are, after all, dealing with a sticky democracy as we all are.

For me, Europe is looking like a much stronger ally, and we need all the help we can get. With Sarkozy, Angela Merkle in Germany and Gordon Brown in the UK, I am encouraged. My only fear is that we may not elect a President in the US that can complement them.

I am now lifting my personal seven-year boycott of France under the disastrous Chirac regime, and wish Sarkozy all the very best in an extremely difficult job. Give the guy a chance.

17 posted on 11/07/2007 8:41:04 PM PST by NGC 6822
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To: Kaslin

France can be trusted for a little time and for a little effort. No further.


18 posted on 11/07/2007 9:09:15 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: Rsgood Dsbad
Come on folks, give the guy a break. It’s refreshing to hear pro-American rhetoric with a Gallic accent. Accept it.

Oh, I accept it. I just don't accept that he really speaks for France if the going gets a little tough and we need a friend. Since DeGaulle's mischief with NATO, the French have a way of behaving like enemies or rivals at the drop of a hat. The French diplomatic corps is especially loathsome, worse than our own Foggy Bottom.

Nor am I convinced that Sarko really has gained control of the full apparatus of French government. It is not structured for command-and-control and that is deliberate. This limits Sarko's action unless he undertakes some major political battles.

Look, I cheered Sarko to victory, defended him, urged others to drop the boycott and wish France well. My opinion hasn't changed. But my memory of France's record in NATO, in international diplomacy and as a trading partner has not been magically erased by a few magic words and even the sincere support we have received from Sarko.

So I see Sarko as positive for France herself and certainly an improvement for American policy objectives. I'm not prepared to buy into the idea that France is a reliable ally along the lines of Blair's or Thatcher's England. At present, he can only be regarded as similar to former prime minister Aznar of Spain: someone who wants to be a good ally but who may not be able to sustain it domestically. We wish him well but commitment to task and ability to survive real domestic opposition has not been demonstrated. There is no indication that Sarko possesses Blair's considerable talents as a politician, a man possibly more gifted politically than even the Bent One himself.

I welcome France's deployment of the De Gaulle with our fleet off Iran and a new positive attitude from Sarko. But France is not in a position to help us greatly. France needs to help itself first and to put its domestic house in order. They are facing an internal crisis and entrenched entitlement interests and social problems that have festered for decades and an economy strangled by socialism and a rather dire demographic outlook. Sarko must address that, no easy task. Saving France for the West and creating a broader prosperity and economic opportunities across the sweep of French society is his primary job. And that alone will be a Herculean labor. He will have done well for France and as a member of the West if he can accomplish even that much.
19 posted on 11/07/2007 9:23:26 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush
You make a lot of good and important points. I think we are both agreed that the crux of the French problem is their economy. Until that can be fixed, France is a wounded ally.

I would like to make one more point, though. France has the largest Muslim population in Europe. This fact gives support to your skepticism because it may likely circumscribe Sarkozy’s hopeful intentions on the Middle East issues. He has, however, been tested under these conditions before and stood admirably strong. (Witness the months of car burnings around France a few years ago during which time he didn’t waiver from leveling tough criticism at the attackers, unlike most other French politicians.) But, that situation could get grotesque again.

Despite the above, I still think Sarkozy has the same resolve that Blair had, and Blair faced an even greater problem with the more radical Pakistan population in the UK. I will continue to stay on the optimistic side.

20 posted on 11/08/2007 7:31:33 AM PST by NGC 6822
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