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Fred Thompson Is Finished
aim.org ^ | November 7, 2007 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 11/07/2007 7:41:35 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

On the matter of Terri Schiavo’s right to life, which occupied the attention of the media and Congress in 2005, Thompson called that a family decision, “in consultation with their doctor,” and “the federal government should not be involved.” Thompson added, “the less government the better.” ...

In the case of Terri Schiavo, a severely disabled person, there was a family dispute. Her estranged husband wanted her to die and he eventually succeeded in starving her to death. Her parents had wanted her to live. ...

There was no moral justification for killing Terri because she had an inherent right to life and there was no clear evidence that she wanted food and water withdrawn. The morally correct course of action would have been to let her family take care of her. Nobody would have been harmed by that.

“Meet the Press” host Tim Russert brought up the death of Thompson’s daughter, who reportedly suffered a brain injury and a heart attack after an accidental overdose of prescription drugs. Apparently Thompson and members of his family made some decisions affecting her life and death. Thompson described it as an “end-of-life” issue.

Bobby Schindler says he doesn’t know what the circumstances precisely were in that case and that he sympathizes with what Thompson went through. However, he says that it is not comparable at all to his sister’s case.

“What no one is recognizing,” he told me, “is that my sister’s case was not an end-of-life issue. She was simply and merely disabled. Terri wasn’t dying. She was only being sustained by food and water. She had no terminal illness. She wasn’t on any machines. All she needed was a wheelchair and she could have been taken anywhere. She didn’t even need to be confined to a bed.”

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cliffkincaid; cultureofdeath; fred; fredthompson; nofireinthebelly; prolife; rinostampede; terrischiavo; thompson
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I’m as pro-life as they come, and I don’t get how being for overturning Roe v. Wade counts as “pro-choice”.

If you’re insisting that the only possible legitimate position is to be for an immediate federal banning of abortion in all 50 states, then enjoy having it be legal up until the moment of birth for the rest of your life.

The -only- way we’re ever going to get there is if it goes back to the states first by overturning Roe, then convincing enough states (two thirds) to make it illegal so that passing a constitutional amendment on the issue becomes possible.

That’s not all going to happen in 4 years. Getting Roe overturned is the next step, and if a candidate is willing to do that (as Fred is), that’s the most we can expect out of -any- candidate for the time being.

Qwinn


101 posted on 11/07/2007 8:37:08 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: Star Traveler

The Declaration of Independence states the ideals of the founders. It has no force of law.


102 posted on 11/07/2007 8:37:49 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Ron Paul Criminality: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot)
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To: CheyennePress

That’s the shabbiest attempt at a photoshop I’ve ever seen. You should leave it to the folks with skills.


103 posted on 11/07/2007 8:38:36 PM PST by Petronski ("Willard, you canít buy South Carolina. You canít even rent it.Ē)
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To: mimaw

He’s not “acting” at all. While the rest of the RINOs are falling all over themselves lying their asses off about their records and what they intend to do, Fred’s just being Fred. It’s refreshing for a change. That’s why the media fears him.


104 posted on 11/07/2007 8:39:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

For you older people: that is what the headlines of the paper said about Harry Truman. LOL he showed them the next morning.


105 posted on 11/07/2007 8:39:26 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: CheyennePress

That bad photoshop is almost as pathetic as Precious Willard’s candidacy.


106 posted on 11/07/2007 8:40:13 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Lying about Fred’s position, again, just might get you suspended, again.


107 posted on 11/07/2007 8:40:46 PM PST by Petronski ("Willard, you canít buy South Carolina. You canít even rent it.Ē)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

“I believe the Democrat candidate will win the election because the Demcrats are happier with their candidates”

If that’s the case, and I don’t agree it is either your assertion that the Dems. will win or that they’re happier with their candidates, then it’s time for our side to get happy and fast, or they’re going to be getting a big dose of unhappy when an extremist Hillary White House and an extremist Democratic Congress are busy rubber stamping one another’s far left wing nuttery.

James Dobson might consider that as he throws around a lot of threats of running 3rd party alternatives he knows he’ll never have the money or votes to get into the White House, but who would be the Democrats’ fondest wish in ensuring the GOP/conservative vote is split which will acrue to Hillary’s benefit. And how many conservative judges will Dobson be getting then, and how will his goal of advancing the ball on an eventual abortion ban be served by that? If anything, it will be set back by a half century or more.

We need to stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good in our voting decisions and get over our childish fantasies of there being another Reagan out there who were just being denied. No one can seem to name who this mythical candidate is. And the constant comparisons and demands for a Reagan and dammit I’m just not going to be happy without one is pure foolishness. A guy like Reagan comes along maybe once every generation. So let’s get over the fact we don’t have the incarnation of Reagan or even a perfect candidate who agrees with everything we believe in 1000% and get out and work to get the GOP candidate, whoever that is, into the White House before we get a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress giving us 1000% of what we don’t agree with.

Time for conservatives to grow up and stop stamping their feet when they don’t get everything perfectly their way. We’re acting like petulant children, not smart, thoughtful, pragmatic and wise adults who realize in life sometimes you have to compromise on a few things to get a lot of other things you do want and prevent a lot of things you don’t, i.e. Democrats having total control over the government including having total control, and no checks or balances, over the judicial nominating process. How happy will these currently unhappy conservatives be then?

And maybe when you’re pragmatic, put away absolutism and stop insisting on having everything your way and accept less than a full plate realizing you can’t always have your way in a large and diverse organization like a political party, maybe in the end you’ll just be surprised at how much you are receiving and how filled up you really are and you’ll be pleasantly surprised, instead of always expecting the worst when you have to compromise just a little.


108 posted on 11/07/2007 8:41:02 PM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary ("I hope Hillary is elected" Ala Senakreh, West Bank chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades)
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To: papasmurf
"I do not think it is a wise thing to criminalize young girls and perhaps their parents as aiders and abettors or perhaps their family physician." - Fred Thompson

"you can’t have a law that cuts off an age group or something like that, which potentially would take young, young girls in extreme situations and say, basically, we’re going to put them in jail to do that. I just don’t think that that’s the right thing to do." - Fred Thompson

109 posted on 11/07/2007 8:41:37 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RockinRight

&uotWhen the Declaration of Independence states — “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ...; — and that is the beginning of our country’s founding documents, of which the Constitution implements the particulars of how we’re to be governed, in order to protect these stated unalienable rights — that means anyone who minimizes the government’s duty to protect that very thing stated in our founding documents is not to be trusted at all. So, he’s “out the window” as far as I’m concerned...

Regards,
Star Traveler


110 posted on 11/07/2007 8:41:38 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

The Declaration states the goals of the founders.

The Constitution tells us how to achieve it and sets the laws...and based on that, Fred Thompson is correct.

Who are you supporting?


111 posted on 11/07/2007 8:43:21 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

So who were you before you were banned?


112 posted on 11/07/2007 8:43:33 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Ron Paul Criminality: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot)
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To: Petronski

He did get to come back awfully quickly, didn’t he?


113 posted on 11/07/2007 8:44:03 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: Westlander

Ever heard of “unalienable rights” or something like that...


114 posted on 11/07/2007 8:44:10 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Bobbisox
"...there seems to be a complete blackout of Fred Thompson. Anyone else notice this?"

I listen to radio at work and it's sort of like Rudy talk all day.

I've noticed this. Are the Clintons behind making Rudy the one in the media now. We have seen this before.

115 posted on 11/07/2007 8:44:42 PM PST by BobS (I><P>)
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To: Star Traveler

Good post.

Freegards


116 posted on 11/07/2007 8:44:49 PM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Star Traveler

Yes, too bad it is not the law!


117 posted on 11/07/2007 8:45:25 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Ron Paul Criminality: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot)
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To: Petronski

Sorry, but a liar is somebody who says they’re pro-life, but doesn’t want abortion to be a crime.


118 posted on 11/07/2007 8:45:31 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

YOU are the liar. You have demonstrated it all day, up and down.


119 posted on 11/07/2007 8:46:04 PM PST by Petronski ("Willard, you canít buy South Carolina. You canít even rent it.Ē)
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To: RockinRight

I’m waiting to see what good candidate rises to the top. I haven’t seen anyone yet...

BUT, it’s quite easy to see who is *eliminated* — because they so easily eliminate themselves, with this current crop of so-called candidates (unfortunately)...

Regards,
Star Traveler


120 posted on 11/07/2007 8:46:23 PM PST by Star Traveler
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