Posted on 11/13/2007 9:33:06 AM PST by rhema
Ugh, the atheists trying to inanely pin evil on Christianity. Guess what? The Devil was an angel at one point, too.
My other favorite is when they bring up the Inquisition as a comparison to the Muslim unrest going on in the world.
Nothing like going back several hundred years to have to make your point.
I don't have the web site handy---the link is at my office---but the Nuremberg war trials produced extensive documentation about the establishment of the "Nazi church." Hitler needed the Christians to help him kill the Jews, but they were next in line!
I think Hitler was a satan wannabee - doesn’t mean he didn’t believe in God - only that he wished to choose the devil and inflict evil on the world.
Naziism was as bad as communism in their "socialistic" ideals...both inevitably steering for totalitarianism...the 2 just went about it in different ways.
Hitler was no more a Christian than David Koresh or Fred Phelps. They used religion with speech as a tool for their own ends.
Btw, the "Hail Mary" in German doesn't use "heil" - it uses "Gegrüßet seist du." (you are greeted).
With all that said, Hitler was definitely aiming at his own deification (look at all the rotten art where he's a stand-in for various semi-divine Germanic legendary figures). He wanted to get there via a manufactured quasi-Nordic pagan religion of his own creation, not Christianity. He had no use for Christianity in any form, seeing it as a mere derivation of Judaism and a creed for weaklings.
The Nazis never were Christians. They sometimes used the cover of Christianity and other religions in their propaganda but they developed their own Pagan rituals for weddings, births and other important ceremonies. They also exterminated thousands of priests and millions of Christians in concentration camps.
The Nazis used any religion to further their power. For example, the Nazis raised two Muslim Waffen SS Divisions during the war. These were the only true “religious” SS Division the Nazis ever created (and it is safe to say that the Germany was not a Muslim nation). Himmler was fascinated by the thought of Muslims to be fearless soldiers willing to kill for their religion. One of these Muslim Waffen SS divisions (The Hanjer Division) was responsible for the murder of over 90 percent of the Yugoslavian Jewish population.
The Nazis were left-wing socialists. Yes, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, was indeed socialist, and it had a lot in common with the modern left. Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists — particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Yet a popular myth persists that the Nazis themselves were right-wing extremists. This insidious lie biases the entire political landscape, and the time has come to expose it.
2banana
In that respect, Hitler was somewhat under the sway of Alfred Rosenberg, who was anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, and an outspoken pagan. Rosenberg had put together a document of the thirty rules of a “National Reich Church,” which was completely anti-Christian (using Mein Kampf as a holy book, for example, and banning the Bible). But Hitler and the Nazis, on their way up and during their consolidation of power and the runup to 1939, had to couch their statements often in Christian rhetoric (such as “Nazism is positive Christianity”). For that, they leaned heavily on H.S. Chamberlain’s book “Foundations of the Nineteenth Century,” in which he maintained that Jesus Christ was an Aryan, not a Jew.
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Uh oh... not another ‘inconvenient truth’ for the secular leftists.
To be a Christian you must follow Christ. Who can keep a straight face and say that Hitler did this?
Anyone can make a claim as to what they are, but it does not make it so.
Was Hitler a Christian? He was probably baptized as an infant, but the determinant is how a person lives his/her life. By their fruits you will know them.
Hitler a disciple or follower of Christ? I don't think so.
This is a good one:
Hitler’s war on Christ: Joel Miller explores Nazi plan to eradicate the Church
January 12, 2002
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/606793/posts
Good point. Believing in God is not the same thing as being a follower. Intellectual assent is not enough.
Mr. niteowl77
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
No mention of him being a Theosophist. He was the ultimate New Ager. He was into people like Alice A. Bailey and Madame Blavatsky. These people were the founders of what has emerged into the modern New Age movement. Do a search on the internet and see what comes up.
He was for all intents and purposes a Satanist.
Mel
Actually they're all derived from the same Old German root meaning "whole."
Certainly. But they mean very different things. I don’t think Hitler was thinking “holy” - I think he was thinking “archaic greeting to pagan overlord.”
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