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PBS Telling Teachers to Violate First Amendment, Group Says
CNSN News ^ | November 13, 2007 | Randy Hall

Posted on 11/13/2007 1:40:53 PM PST by yoe

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To: yoe
In the booklet, teachers are instructed to use such discussion questions as: "Can you accept evolution and still believe in religion?" The answer to that query is provided as: "Yes. The common view that evolution is inherently antireligious is simply false."

This is pure opinion, and is, therefore, religious in nature. It is not in the purview of a teacher to be teaching this.

For my part, evolution is inherently antireligious. Richard Dawkins agrees with me. I am a strong conservative, evangelical Christian. Dawkins is a world-famous atheistic evolutionist.

101 posted on 11/13/2007 10:03:04 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: doodad

Me either......


102 posted on 11/13/2007 10:06:11 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes)
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To: lonestar67

5700 year or whatever old earth... yep pretty scared of them.


103 posted on 11/13/2007 10:07:46 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes)
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To: Theo

How does Christ have a a dog in the fight between stupidity and his way other than pulling for the people that pull his way and being there for those that go astray?

Christ said something about a mote or something didn’t he?

Wink.


104 posted on 11/13/2007 10:11:24 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes)
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To: xzins

Dawkins.... I am going to ask your permission to post something about him.

May I? Please.

Pretty Please?


105 posted on 11/13/2007 10:24:17 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

anything you wish, but you don’t need my permission


106 posted on 11/13/2007 10:27:07 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: xzins

107 posted on 11/13/2007 10:36:39 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes)
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To: Tenniel2; omega4179

Sorry, I should’ve included the sarcasm tag.

Still waiting for scientific evidence against evolution, and/or scientific evidence supporting ID....


108 posted on 11/14/2007 3:22:09 AM PST by Amelia
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To: yoe
U.S. District Judge John Jones III ruled that the school system may not include intelligent design in its science curriculum because intelligent design is not a scientific concept.

Neither is evolution.

It is, and always has been, bad theory that has had to change course so many times you could use it as an electric fan.

They had the judge on WPHT radio (1210 AM) here in Philadelphia yesterday. The judge had absolutely no clue was constituted "science", but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

109 posted on 11/14/2007 5:14:12 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
As opposed to the chief witness for I.D. who said that according to his definition of Science that Astrology was scientific? Oh HE I suppose really had a clue what Science was, and he didn’t even stay at a Holiday Inn Express. What a joke.
110 posted on 11/14/2007 6:59:06 AM PST by allmendream (A binary modality is a sure sign you don't understand the problem. (Hunter 08))
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To: allmendream

“Albert Einstein also believed that Natural Selection was the theory that best explained Biological evolution, and he was certainly a lot smarter than any of the Science haters at the Dyscovery Institut”

Natural Selection is great for explaining changes within a specie. It’s pure speculation and fantasy to use it to explain differences between species.


111 posted on 11/14/2007 7:50:12 AM PST by bigcat32
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To: Amelia

Prenatal vitamins for starters. The use of steroids in our meat products can be correlated to “larger” children by giving the roids by proxy.


112 posted on 11/14/2007 8:36:41 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: afnamvet
Does the Pope believe that Jesus Christ was born, died and rose from the grave to His Father in heaven?

Haven't asked him, but that would seem to be likely. He also believes in evolution. Note that the two beliefs don't seem to be mutually incompatible.

113 posted on 11/14/2007 9:33:41 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Amelia

The evidence is presented, among other places, in a book called “The Edge of Evolution” by Michael Behe. Before you claim that Behe has been refuted you better be able to point to one concrete example of stepwise evolution of a complex biological mechanism or system. Sometimes the reason we can’t find something is because it does not exist, i.e. mutations leading to improved organisms that came into existence by teeny changes accumulated over time.

The theory of Darwinian Evolution does not allow for accumulated changes. Each change must be “macro” enough to be tested by natural selection and “micro” enough to represent a single mutation. The statistical likelihood of such a thing happening within the time frame of 18 billion years and a universe of 10 to the 80th particles makes a miracle seem like a sure thing. And if evolution requires miracles how is it natural?


114 posted on 11/14/2007 9:35:35 AM PST by Aloysius88 (I used to be the different drummer.)
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To: dsc
By that I mean, where did Dukas and Hoffman get it?

They quote a letter that Einstein wrote, dated March 24, 1954.

The letter was in response to a letter Einstein had received from an admiring atheist, who had read in an article that Einstein was devoutly religious. The writer was skeptical of that, and wanted to know the truth. Additionally, he mailed Einstein a check for Einstein to give to the charity of his choice.

115 posted on 11/14/2007 9:41:48 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: ECM
"The NOVA/PBS teaching guide encourages the injection of religion into classroom teaching about evolution in a way that likely would violate current Supreme Court precedents about the First Amendment's Establishment Clause,"

Nonsense.

116 posted on 11/14/2007 10:03:58 AM PST by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: yoe
""The irony is that discussing intelligent design would not teach any student about any religious belief"

More nonsense. Believing in ID is one thing. Lying about it and pretending it's not religious based is another. The ID political radicals are selling their soul on this one (and their credibility). We see right through you.

117 posted on 11/14/2007 10:08:20 AM PST by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: jwalsh07
It is not neutral for a state actor to make a declarative statement that evolution is not anti-religious when a large percentage of the American population believes just that.

Nonsense. By this inane "logic", having an army is not neutral because it gives preference to religions that accept that war is sometimes necessary over those that take an absolute pacifist stand.

118 posted on 11/14/2007 10:29:59 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: edsheppa
There are religious people who think evolution can be reconciled with religions and other religious people who disagree.

There are some religions that are OK with violence under certain conditions, and others that reject it totally. Ergo, fighting wars or even having a military is unconsitutional.

Since this line of argument leads to obvious absurdities, it must be rejected as invalid.

119 posted on 11/14/2007 10:33:17 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: xzins
This is pure opinion, and is, therefore, religious in nature.

Nonsense. It is established fact, 100% proven by finding even one person who believes in both evolution and religion (which is trivially easy to do).

120 posted on 11/14/2007 10:38:33 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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