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Surfer's Baja Tale Is Warning To Others (American Tourists Robbed And Raped In Mexico)
SignOnSanDiego.com ^ | November 19, 2007 | Terry Rodgers

Posted on 11/19/2007 11:16:35 AM PST by DogByte6RER

Surfer's Baja tale is warning to others

Camping trip ended in robbery, assault

By Terry Rodgers

UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

November 19, 2007

Pat Weber didn't plan on being part of a crime trend that has generated worldwide buzz this past week, but he didn't have much choice.

The Encinitas resident and surfing instructor got lost on a dirt road in Baja California last month while looking for a surfing spot called Cuatro Casas. He and his girlfriend decided to park for the night on a bluff overlooking the ocean.

Just after sundown, two men wearing ski masks approached Weber's motor home and ordered him to come out. He refused but surrendered after they fired a bullet through a window.

The assailants held a gun to Weber's head while they ransacked the motor home and took about $10,000 worth of items. They also sexually assaulted his girlfriend, Weber said.

It is the policy of The San Diego Union-Tribune not to identify victims of sexual crimes.

The Oct. 23 attack was one of at least six armed robberies and carjackings in the past five months that targeted surfers en route to camping spots in northern Baja. Some of the victims reported their experiences to the police, while others posted their stories on surfing and travel Web sites.

The Union-Tribune published details of the crimes Wednesday. Since then, blogs and TV and radio stations based everywhere from Southern California to Australia have covered the topic.

They have featured tourists who never encountered trouble in Baja and those who stopped visiting the peninsula's remote, picturesque beaches because of crimes that happened 10 or 20 years ago. A few included safety tips ahead of the Thanksgiving vacation stretch.

On Friday, a crew from CNN came to town to produce a segment about what Weber and his girlfriend went through.

“I'm not asking for sympathy,” said Weber, who said he went public to warn other travelers.

Weber said feels guilty that he couldn't defend his girlfriend, and he keeps second-guessing himself about the decision to camp in an isolated area. His sleep has been fitful, and he often feels a knot of emotions.

“I'm like a piñata on wheels, loaded up and ready to be smashed open,” he said.

Despite the trauma, Weber is thankful to be alive. “(The gunmen) had all the cards,” he said. “It could have ended 100 different ways much worse.”

Weber, 47, had logged more than 500 days in Baja and has taken dozens of students there over the past 10 years. Now he vows to never return.

“I can't in good conscience take someone down there and say it's safe, because it's not,” he said. “For me, this is the end of an era.”

On Friday, Weber invited friends and past students to a surfing session and potluck lunch at South Carlsbad State Beach, the home base for his San Diego Surfing Academy.

Weber said the “group hug,” his term for the event, will help heal his mental and emotional wounds. “It's part of my catharsis,” he said. “I'm still numb and reeling from the experience. It's like a bad dream.”

When the CNN crew showed up, Weber pointed out the bullet hole in his motor home.

“That, I'm not going to get fixed,” he said. “I'm just going to plug it with a cork from a wine bottle.”

Amid the rising concern about what some surfers see as sophisticated, paramilitary-style crimes in Baja, longtime visitors to the peninsula said tourists can take steps to reduce their chances of becoming victims.

They advised people to travel in caravans of two or more vehicles and to stay in campgrounds that have security guards. Some surfers urged campers to bring a dog and said it's a good idea to have a cell phone or rent a satellite phone.

“When in Mexico at a remote site, you are vulnerable and you need to pay attention,” said Kent Layton, who operates a fenced-in surf camp at Cuatro Casas called the Boat Ranch. “Be proactive. Have a plan, and whenever possible, leave yourself an out.”

Layton also recommends that travelers leave a copy of their itinerary with friends and family members.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bajacalifornia; bananarepublic; banglist; corrption; federales; lamordida; mexico; ratbastards; surfers; surfing; tijuana; tourism; turistas; turistasgohome; yanquigohome
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I wouldn't be surprised if the masked thugs who robbed and assaulted this couple were off-duty Mexican cops or federales.

Mexico is nothing more than a corrupt third world banana republic and Americans need to realize this before taking a vacation to this criminal haven.

1 posted on 11/19/2007 11:16:37 AM PST by DogByte6RER
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Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket CHARLIE NEUMAN / Union-Tribune Pat Weber, who survived an assault while camping in Baja California, carried his board near his surfing school, the San Diego Surfing Academy.
2 posted on 11/19/2007 11:17:18 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER
Sorry - Mexico has banned it citizens from owning guns - so this could not have happened...
3 posted on 11/19/2007 11:19:50 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: DogByte6RER
Gee. If only they had strict gun control in Mexico.... </sarcasm>
4 posted on 11/19/2007 11:21:12 AM PST by vikingd00d
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To: DogByte6RER
Weber said the “group hug,” his term for the event, will help heal his mental and emotional wounds

Forget the group hug, next time stash a gun in your RV to defend against these thugs. They are just like the pirates of the high seas and most boaters carry multiple weapons.

5 posted on 11/19/2007 11:22:01 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: DogByte6RER

Okay I’ve been proven wrong again.

“Family values don’t end that the border!” My bad...

Gun control advocates will love this one.


6 posted on 11/19/2007 11:23:17 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: DogByte6RER

I have a technical question that maybe somebody here can answer: when a newspaper article, such as this one, says the woman was “sexually assaulted”, does that mean she was raped? If so, why does it not say “raped”? I have seen stories where the victim was described as having been sexually assaulted, but it was obvious that rape had not occurred, so I was wondering if there was some hard and fast rule about the use of the two terms in newspaper land.


7 posted on 11/19/2007 11:24:03 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: 1Old Pro

I was thinkin that too. I suppose the mexican border guards do a run through of your vehicle for weapons and drugs? It would be fairly easy to stash a gun in an RV opposed to a car.
Shoot, shovel, shut-up?


8 posted on 11/19/2007 11:25:08 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: DogByte6RER

That’s one out of shape surfer.


9 posted on 11/19/2007 11:25:33 AM PST by jimboster (fROM)
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To: 1Old Pro

I would be very carful about trying to sneak something in or out of Mexico. I knew someone who hid a bottle of liquor in their trailer. It was found. A weapons charge could be quite stiff in Mexico. Enter at your own risk, but don’t think a trip to prison down there is going to be a great option.


10 posted on 11/19/2007 11:26:14 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: miliantnutcase

When you visit a nation of outlaws, don’t be surprised if you run into trouble.


11 posted on 11/19/2007 11:26:57 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Yeah...this “group hug” seems like a bunch of new age hippie crap. I wonder if this “group hug” made the sexually assaulted lady feel any better?

The surfer community seems to adopt a lot of this new age nonsense. Maybe they have spent to much time in the saltwater and their brains have turned soggy.

Still...NOBODY deserves to have this happen.


12 posted on 11/19/2007 11:27:03 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: 1Old Pro

Here’s a better idea. Don’t go to Mexico. It has always worked for me.


13 posted on 11/19/2007 11:28:25 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Back in the early 70s, I took a bus from Tia Juana to Mazatlan. At 3:00 AM in the middle of the desert Federalis took everybody off the bus and went through all our bags.

They asked specifically about guns.

I assume that country is disarmed, except for the banditos?


14 posted on 11/19/2007 11:28:39 AM PST by Psychic Dice (ArtOfPsychicDice.com)
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To: DogByte6RER
"Weber said the “group hug,” his term for the event, will help heal his mental and emotional wounds."

Heaven forbid you should use this experience as a lesson to GET A GUN.

"It could have ended 100 different ways much worse.”

Yeah -- for the bad guys. Shoot a gun at my house with me and my loved ones inside and they would either be dead or still running.

15 posted on 11/19/2007 11:29:01 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: DogByte6RER
Still...NOBODY deserves to have this happen.

Of course not, but it is Mexico, I've seen the stories for years about the risks and crimes against tourists there. Thus, I wouldn't go there. I also would never go to Jamaica again either....I prefer a more civilized law abiding destination as it clearly reduces personal risk.

16 posted on 11/19/2007 11:29:30 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: DogByte6RER

Old news. This has been going on for decades. As Mexico struggles with the drug lords for control, the violence has gotten substantially worse.

American citizens are being kidnapped in Laredo and taken across the border by drug lords where they are often held for ransom and, sometimes, murdered. The State Department finally had to issue a travel warning about Mexico a year or two ago because the crime and violence have gotten so bad.

This is the stuff that Bush, Fox and Claderon DON’T want you to know. I live within 150 miles of the Texas-Mexico border and used to love going to the border towns. However, because of the crime and the violence, I refuse to go.

Too bad, too!! I used to really enjoy it.


17 posted on 11/19/2007 11:30:31 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DogByte6RER

My feet will never touch mexican soil.

Mexico doesn’t much care about it’s own people, why would they care about me?


18 posted on 11/19/2007 11:31:14 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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To: DogByte6RER

I went to TJ about 15 years ago...It was nothing then and it’s still nothing. I will never spend a penny in that turd world country again.


19 posted on 11/19/2007 11:31:30 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: 1Old Pro

“Forget the group hug, next time stash a gun in your RV to defend against these thugs.”

Sorry, but that is bad thing to do in Mexico! They will toss your can in in jail, with little hope of getting out, for as little as finding a tiny 22 round or a shotgun shell under your car seat.


20 posted on 11/19/2007 11:31:50 AM PST by nralife
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To: DogByte6RER
I’ve been traveling to Mexico since the late 1970s and this guy’s big mistake was to camp in an isolated area. He even knew that, but still did it. Just like wolves waiting for the weakest deer to fall behind the herd, these banditos pounced upon this guy and his girlfriend. If you treat Mexico as the wilds with the same barbaric rules of nature, then you’ll do all right down there and have fun.

I have had two friends get shot down there and left for dead in trash bags. Their parents had to come get their fly swarmed corpses. Both of them broke the rules of nature and wild Mexico swallowed them whole.

21 posted on 11/19/2007 11:32:16 AM PST by avacado
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To: DogByte6RER

What are these idiots doing in mexico or close to it?Where was his weapon for self defense?


22 posted on 11/19/2007 11:33:01 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: AppyPappy

“Be proactive. Have a plan, and whenever possible, leave yourself an out.”

Not going to Mexico is also my “proactive plan.”


23 posted on 11/19/2007 11:33:35 AM PST by Cecily
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To: fr_freak
so I was wondering if there was some hard and fast rule about the use of the two terms in newspaper land.

Yes. When the use of the term is damaging to the perpetrator and he/she/it is a member of a protected class (minority, gay, Hispanic, African-American, etc.), then it is a "sexual assault". When the perpetrator is a white, heterosexual, Christian male, it is a "rape".

24 posted on 11/19/2007 11:33:58 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: avacado
If you treat Mexico as the wilds with the same barbaric rules of nature, then you’ll do all right down there and have fun.

No thanks, doesn't sound like fun. I use the same rules here in the USA, I don't vacation in Detroit either.

25 posted on 11/19/2007 11:34:01 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: DogByte6RER

I think people think, because of lurid headlines and blockbuster Hollywood crime movies, that foreign countries have lower crime rates than the US. Nothing could be further from the truth. And these tourists have discovered the truth for themselves, the hard way.


26 posted on 11/19/2007 11:34:44 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: fr_freak

“Sexual assault” is a broad definition for a variety of sex crimes. I don’t want to get too descriptive here, but “sexual assault” typically includes forced sodomy, forced or coerced fondling and touching, anal penetration and vaginal penetration.

Depending on the jurisdiction, the legal definition of rape and sexual assault will vary. Historically, rape has been defined as forced sexual intercourse upon a woman. Other crimes of a sexual nature are typically considered sexual assault.

One can only guess what Mexico’s legal definition of rape and assault are. It is probably the Mexican definition that is in play here since this is where the attack occurred.


27 posted on 11/19/2007 11:36:45 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER
I'm sorry, but I feel zero sympathy for this duck.

It's guys like him who accepted the invasion in the first place. And he's either too stupid or venal to criticize Mexico and recognize it for what it is, so crap like this happens - crap that anyone else with half a brain already understood as being the reality there - but which he denies, or doesn't try to understand.

28 posted on 11/19/2007 11:36:48 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Cecily

The only reason these dirty hippies go to Mexico is because they can do anything they want. Buy drugs, get a 12 year old prostitute, whatever. But the lawlessness can bite back sometimes.

Rather odd that armed men just happened to know where to find his RV


29 posted on 11/19/2007 11:36:59 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: 1Old Pro
"No thanks, doesn't sound like fun. I use the same rules here in the USA, I don't vacation in Detroit either."

But if you surfed, you'd be hard pressed to not camp and surf this beautiful wave for weeks on end.


La Ticla, Michoacan Mexico

30 posted on 11/19/2007 11:37:01 AM PST by avacado
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To: DogByte6RER
Remember, Driver License Agreement (DLA) that was in the original Real ID Legislation would require member states to share their driver databases with foreign countries starting with Canada and Mexico. Sensenbrenner and Myrick is trying to force states to sign it along with other Senators/Representatives through legislation such as S.850, H.1355 and H.4065. People need to be aware of the DLA and voice opposition to this Interstate/International Compact. States will be coerced to sign the compact if the legislation passes.

Driver databases have the essential elements such as Social Security numbers that make identity theft convenient.

31 posted on 11/19/2007 11:38:01 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: DustyMoment

I am quite familiar with all of this too.

I live in the San Diego area...


32 posted on 11/19/2007 11:38:42 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

My surfing buddies told tales such as this 10 years ago and learned to keep some extra money available to pay their way out of situations. They never did bring females along for good reasons.


33 posted on 11/19/2007 11:42:13 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: CORedneck
Additional note on the DLA, it would give corrupt Mexican officials access to data on US citizens and with the SS#, Mexican officials would know the finances of American citizens who vacation there. Good way to invent false charges and extract “la Morida” or bribe out of more affluent Americans who reside in DLA member states.
34 posted on 11/19/2007 11:42:18 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: nralife

maybe now that he was mugged he’ll become a republican....


35 posted on 11/19/2007 11:42:19 AM PST by LynnHam
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To: DogByte6RER
Some surfers urged campers to bring a dog and said it's a good idea to have a cell phone or rent a satellite phone.

Take a 12 guage shotgun or stay home

36 posted on 11/19/2007 11:43:24 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: DogByte6RER
I will not travel to Mexico. A neighbor of mine went down there and her husband ended up suddenly dying (heart attack), but went she went through to get him back here was unbelievable. Thirty days later or more (can't remember), thousands of dollars, she finally brought his cremated ashes back to the states. She didn't want to cremate him but after so much time lapsed she had no choice.

There all a bunch or crooks.

37 posted on 11/19/2007 11:46:03 AM PST by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: DogByte6RER
Baja used to be safe. Mexico today is so dangerous its just not worth it for American tourists to go down and see the sights.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

38 posted on 11/19/2007 11:46:27 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DoughtyOne
“Family values don’t end that the border!”

Apparently, they don't start there either.
39 posted on 11/19/2007 11:46:41 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: paul51
"Take a 12 gauge shotgun or stay home"

Take a 12 gauge shotgun to Mexico, and you'll wind up in jail. I know of a US policeman who inadvertently left a 12 gauge shotgun shell in his car, and wound up in a Mexican jail.

40 posted on 11/19/2007 11:48:56 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: DogByte6RER
Weber said feels guilty that he couldn't defend his girlfriend, and he keeps second-guessing himself about the decision to camp in an isolated area.

The dumb ass should feel guilty. If you want to put yourself in a dangerous situation without any means of defense, that's your business. To take someone along with you is pretty low. Too bad the girl was as foolish as him.

41 posted on 11/19/2007 11:50:17 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: robertpaulsen
“Heaven forbid you should use this experience as a lesson to GET A GUN.”

A guy got five years in a Mexican prison for trying to cross the border with some lose ammunition rolling around in the back of his pickup that he forgot about. DON’T GO TO MEXICO WITH A GUN

42 posted on 11/19/2007 11:50:28 AM PST by monday
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To: goldstategop
They advised people to travel in caravans of two or more vehicles and to stay in campgrounds .

I have heard this at least 15 years never go alone
43 posted on 11/19/2007 11:50:53 AM PST by LynnHam
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To: norwaypinesavage

Well, I guess that means stay home.


44 posted on 11/19/2007 11:51:13 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: norwaypinesavage
The police are all corrupt. It used to be you could buy your way out of a situation in Mexico but its gotten to the point where one can't tell the different between the cops and the crime gangs. They're all on the take and its been that way in Mexico for centuries.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

45 posted on 11/19/2007 11:51:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: avacado

Nice place I’m sure..but it’s not worth my life to get there.


46 posted on 11/19/2007 11:51:52 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: monday
DON’T GO TO MEXICO WITH A GUN
47 posted on 11/19/2007 11:52:08 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: 1Old Pro
"I don't vacation in Detroit either. "
...sissy..have lived here all my life, and we have a saying " Detroit, where the weak are killed and eaten"....
48 posted on 11/19/2007 11:52:13 AM PST by joe fonebone (When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout)
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To: JamesP81

Apparently not.


49 posted on 11/19/2007 11:54:22 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: 1Old Pro

Old Pro, you get an automatic 5 year sentence for possessing a gun in Mexico. NEVER carry one across the border, many people that have accidentally driven to an entry port that have been searched and found with weapons get an automatic 5 year sentence - neither your attorney nor the U.S. State department can get you out, it is a nightmare beyond your wildest dreams. You certainly have the right concept, but everyone should be aware of the mexican laws, you can lose your life there easily either in prison or from being unable to defend yourself.

There was an article in Surfer magazine a couple of months ago - some California surfer dudes were robbed, shot, and left for dead by corrupt Federales south of San Diego. I myself am never going to Mexico again until they clean up the corrution there.


50 posted on 11/19/2007 11:56:31 AM PST by mallardx
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