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Supreme Court to Take Up DC Ban Case
MSNBC ^ | 11/20/2007 | n/a

Posted on 11/20/2007 10:12:34 AM PST by Pyro7480

Breaking on MSNBC... Supreme Court to take up DC gun ban case

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; docket; heller; parker; scotus
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To: flaglady47

Thanks for your kind thoughts! I think that sometimes God can make us change jobs. And yes, I did work for jerks. Good riddance.


151 posted on 11/21/2007 5:57:33 AM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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To: Joe Brower

(From a friend)

The “Supremes” are going to have to determine what the meaning of “is, is”!

Does the term “the people”, used so widely throughout the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution, mean a collective right or, does it mean an individual right? Should the “Supremes” rule that the term means a collective right, in the context of the Second Amendment, then hang on to your hats, folks, as this will be taken as license to limit or remove all of your individual rights. They, and you, simply cannot have it both ways, as Bubba so stated in “It depends on what the meaning of is, is!”

Read and understand the full meaning of this case. This issue is a real slippery slope. ALL of your “so called” rights hinge on the outcome of this ruling! The ultimate outcome of this ruling WILL effect you all! For those of you anti-gunners, fence straddlers and side liners out there, who think that it is only about owning handguns, you better think again. If the “Supremes” rule against us (We, the people) it won’t be only the “gun owners” of America whose “OX WILL BE GORED” it will be all of us (We, the people!), including you!!! And remember, this is our friends and neighbors in the Democrat Party that are pushing this whole thing!!

Maybe it is just time to get this whole matter resolved, once and for all!

Good luck to us all in this case and in the next election!

Open links below for further info.

US Supreme Court Case news article http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8T1J9K80&show_article=1

And, for those of you who don’t remember your history lessons, or were simply never taught them in the first place:

US Constitution on line web site http://www.usconstitution.net/

Declaration of Independence http://www.usconstitution.net/declar.html

US Constitution http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html


152 posted on 11/21/2007 6:55:34 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie
Good post, blackie. I've often said that the BOR is like a spear, with the 2A being the pointy sharp end. And like a spear, when the tip's broken off, the rest of it isn't much good for anything.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

153 posted on 11/21/2007 6:58:46 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: pawdoggie

No, no, I’m not saying I think that’s how I think they’re going to vote, I’m saying I don’t think it’s one of those frequent situations where eight votes are known, and you just have to wait to see how the swing vote or two is cast. And I agree with you. I was hoping for at least one more libertarian/originalist, preferably replacing one of the far left-wingers, before I’d be comfortable.


154 posted on 11/21/2007 8:32:53 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Jasper

They’ll probably rework the statue so he’s holding a shovel or something like they did in ET.


155 posted on 11/21/2007 8:38:24 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Hunterite
"If the SC goes all Commie on us, then candidates with even the slightest record or whisper of being a gun grabber will lose the Republican nomination"

If the SC goes commie again, there should be no need to worry about GOP nominations until after we, the citizen militia of the Republic, charged with the responsibility of being the last line of defense in case of invasion or the installation of a tryant, take our country back.

156 posted on 11/21/2007 8:51:44 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: Phsstpok

Speaking of Fed Thompson, I see a problem with the question the SCOTUS is asking: it asks whether private citizens have the right to firearms in their homes, not whether they have the right to use those firarms for self defense in their homes or for defense OF their homes.


157 posted on 11/21/2007 8:54:32 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: gridlock
"violate the Second Amendment rights of individuals who are not affiliated with any state-regulated militia"

Is it possible the SCOTUS is differentiating because, when all is said and done, DC might be state-like but is NOT a state? After all, there's no DC National Guard. Or do you think I'm being too optimistic?

158 posted on 11/21/2007 9:25:42 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: cake_crumb
Speaking of Fed Thompson, I see a problem with the question the SCOTUS is asking: it asks whether private citizens have the right to firearms in their homes, not whether they have the right to use those firarms for self defense in their homes or for defense OF their homes.

That would be a bad thing, IMHO, and I think they've rephrased the question correctly.  They said 'for private use in their homes.'  They don't limit that use in any way.  It's strictly the question of right to keep and use.  If you have a right to keep it and use it then the question of what use you put it to is a separate matter, still appropriately left for definition in another setting.  The need for the firearms for self defense is going to be an inherent part of the arguments in favor of over turning the law and need not be stated in the question.

And why would that be an issue involving FDT in this context?

159 posted on 11/21/2007 9:38:43 AM PST by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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To: ctdonath2
"We’re not going to lose - we’ve already won!"

The SCOTUS upheld CFR, which violates the First Amendment.

160 posted on 11/21/2007 9:51:17 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: Travis McGee

Oh yeah, Co2 is pollution. Making all of us illegal or what? The SCOTUS had made some truely IGNORANT rulings lately.


161 posted on 11/21/2007 9:54:45 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: Phsstpok
I don't know....I keep thinking of ways ANY decision will be used against us. Like...remember the congress considered banning bullets when they found they couldn't ban guns? That was Chuckie, IIRC. That sort of thing. Just the fact that this is being considered at all worries me. This country has swung such a hard left, where people think the president is WRONG for asking permission of a governor to send in the National Guard in an emergency and using tanks against civilians against citizens at WACO was a GOOD thing to do...it just worries me.

We're well stocked on ammo, but methinks we're making an ammo run on Saturday anyway.

162 posted on 11/21/2007 10:06:08 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: cake_crumb

CFR, CO2, and Kelso. (Private property confiscation)


163 posted on 11/21/2007 11:06:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Still Thinking
"They’ll probably rework the statue so he’s holding a shovel or something like they did in ET."

Or remove the statue completely

After all, we can't expose our children to have such politically incorrect ideas; the spirit of patriotic resistance and revolution. This idea is such a useless anachronism in this progressive age. /sarcasm

/jasper

164 posted on 11/27/2007 1:51:12 PM PST by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie!!)
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To: mc5cents
"You for got the caption for that photo:"

I thought about a caption, but decided that the pic and the statue spoke volumes without the need for a caption.

/jasper

165 posted on 11/27/2007 1:58:02 PM PST by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie!!)
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To: Travis McGee
"Terrific photo of the Minuteman, thanks!"

You're welcome.

BTW - as I understand it - this graphic is of your design?

Are there decals and/or T-shirts available?

Hope things are going well for you over in Clay. Stay safe.

/jasper

166 posted on 11/27/2007 2:16:16 PM PST by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie!!)
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To: Jasper
have

Sheesh

/jasper

167 posted on 11/27/2007 2:17:55 PM PST by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie!!)
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To: Jasper

Actually I bought rights to use it for my books and related items from a guy on The High Road. He does, I believe, sell mugs, t-shirts etc with that design on Cafe Press. I believe he is “Dr.Z” on the High Road, but I haven’t contacted him in a few years.


168 posted on 11/27/2007 2:33:06 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks!
I'm a member of THR.
I'll look into it.

/jasper

169 posted on 11/27/2007 2:37:20 PM PST by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie!!)
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To: Jasper

If you can’t find him, just post a thread in general discussion, and somebody will be able to hook you up.


170 posted on 11/27/2007 5:14:30 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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