Hillary Clinton -- Ominous Signs of Cracks in The Foundation.

Vanity Press ^ | 11-20-07 | cww

[CWW]

Call me a skeptic, but I don’t see Hillary Clinton as the eventual democrat party nominee for President. Although she may have a well oiled campaign machine, she is still an unlikable person, and unlikable people do not generally win the presidency. I have always believed that next to ideology, likeability is a key factor to election success. Americans want to like their President. Mrs. Clinton is simply not likeable, and as this campaign progresses rapidly over the next two months, the thinness of her support will become self-evident.

We already can see some of the tell-tale signs. For example, Barak Obama has recently pulled ahead of Clinton in two Iowa caucus polls, with opposing voters citing her lack of trustworthiness. Incredibly, Obama even outpolled Hillary among women in one recent Iowa poll.

Second, and more significantly, I heard Larry Sabato comment today that Hillary has not broken the 30% number in any national poll among democrats. Let me repeat – Hillary barely has the support of 30% of her own party. This, in my opinion, is critical evidence showing that Hillary has a glass jaw and her support is a thin as cheap egg drop soup.

Everything about her campaign is tightly controlled and micromanaged. There are not unguarded moments; no impromptu press conferences; no extemporaneous speeches. She is a robot with a script and comes across as such. And the more you see of her, the less you like. She simply does not wear well over time.

Obama will likely win Iowa, and that, my friends, will result in a week of headlines questioning the conventional wisdom of Hillary’s coronation. Hillary obviously fears this result and has started dumping more money and resources into the State to shore up her support. Can you imagine the headlines the morning after the Iowa caucus if Hillary loses Iowa (and the women’s vote) to Obama?!! No matter how she tries to marginalize any loss in Iowa, the new story will be her perceived lack of invincibility.

Clearly, if Iowa turns, then there is a strong chance that New Hampshire will turn for Obama too. The polls in that state are already tightening. She basically has a 10 to 13 point lead, but again can only seem to garner 36% of the democrat vote.

Momentum is an amazing thing. Ask Howard Dean, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Despite Hillary Clinton’s lead among democrats in national polls, the nomination must be won state by state. And Iowa and New Hampshire may spell the beginning of the end for Hillary. There is a tinge of blood in the water, and the media sharks and democrat party operatives know it. Hillary is simply is not likeable.

[jdm]

NOT GUILTY!!!!!!

[jdm]

Hillary/Spitzer ‘08.

Go team!

/sarc

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

I've been thinking about this for a long time and I do not think Hillary is the worst of the lot. Okay when I start to think of Willey and Broaddrick then I have to acknowledge she may have the coldest and meanest heart of the lot. But poltiically speaking, I think she is too much like her husband in that she will bend when public opinion goes against her ideology because she loves power more than anything. I could be wrong. She could be the principled one in the family. But with Bill we got stuff like Welfare Reform. It's something.

I think Kucinich and Obama are tied for the worst of the bunch. Second, Edwards. Third Biden.

If I could pick I would choose Dodd. Okay he stinks, but less offensively than the others. Second would be Richardson, though my gut says he is unprincipled. I guess unprincipled in an opponent who disagrees with you on everything is the only hope you have. He might stab his own in the back once in awhile.

Gravel cannot be taken seriously.

Hillary is somewhere in the middle, probably after Richardson. Except that I think she has a criminal mind and that's scary. Still, all eyes will be on her and she is hated enough by the right that they won't let her get by with anything.

If Hillary wins I will grieve for Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick more than I will for the race before us.

[OmegaMan]

What Hillary has going for her is that the two other options are even worse. Hillary isnt likeable, but at least she knows how to position yourself to win an election, and she understands that an election is a war, its not a debating society.

Thats why she’ll end up being the nominee. She is a poor candidate (although being a woman is a wild card). But with the shape the republican party is in she still may be able to win. I dont think you could say that in any other year.

[outofstyle]

I don’t see Hillary Clinton as the eventual democrat party nominee for President. Although she may have a well oiled campaign machine, she is still an unlikable person, and unlikable people do not generally win the presidency.

I agree. That is why I am hoping she holds it together long enough to take the nomination. She is the most unelectable democrat in the race. The only way the republicans can win in 2008 is if they face Hillary. Many "moderate" dems will sit on the sidelines.

[Chuzzlewit]

Cracks for crusty!!! oh the humanity!! too funny.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

I don’t really see her as unelectable. She has the power of The Bill behind her. For some reason I will never understand, Bill Clinton is to the Demcrats like Ronald Reagan is to us.

[bannie]

clintons cheat.

[outofstyle]

Bill Clinton is to the Demcrats like Ronald Reagan is to us.

I'm going to puke now. :-)

[bannie]

LOL! Even before I read your caption, all I could see in that picture was that spackled on makeup.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

But with the shape the republican party is in she still may be able to win.

That's it exactly. Our weakness is their biggest strength. I say that as one who firmly believes we have nearly destroyed ourselves by valuing power over principle. In the end it will never work because compromise always eventually leads to everyone hating you. So we won't solve our problems by bullying everyone into voting for our guy just because he isn't the other guy.

[no dems]

Barak Obama has recently pulled ahead of Clinton in two Iowa caucus polls, with opposing voters citing her lack of trustworthiness. Incredibly, Obama even outpolled Hillary among women in one recent Iowa poll

And, now, Oprah is on her way to Iowa to campaign for Obama. Look for his lead to widen.

Poor little John Edwards; nobody's sayin' anything about him these days. Bless his poor, little, hypocrite-smile and phony, heart. /s

[CWW]

Personally, I would like to see Hillary win the democrat nomination because I think she will not wear well over a long campaign and will falter under the pressure. The media is already starting to gripe about her inaccessibility (whether they'll do anything other than gripe is another issue). However, I fear that Hillary may have peaked too early and could let the nomination slip through her hands.

Look to see the level of civility between Hillary and Obama rapidly deteriorate over the next month.

[CWW]

And Hillary will not reap the Edwards’ voters. They hate her too!

[adopt4Christ]

This photo of her looks like something a mortician would do to a body in the casket. LOOK AT IT! Tell me I’m wrong!

And I agree about the likeability factor, which she will never have. She who must be feared also cannot be trusted. Who would trust her?

[outofstyle]

Poor little John Edwards; nobody's sayin' anything about him these days. Bless his poor, little, hypocrite-smile and phony, heart. /s

Good! In my opinion this pathetic weenie is the most dangerous Dem. He reminds me of Jimmie Carter & I think he could win in the general election.

[Miss Didi]

RUSH: Now, I want to continue this Hillary analysis. She's in a real fight, and this was never part of the plan. The plan was to make it look like she was in a fight, to counter the inevitability, to show her as having strength, and force, and power, and commitment, and all that rot. But now she's really, really in a fight, and it didn't take a lot for it to happen. She's gotta big problem, folks, she is a bad candidate. Despite all this talk, the Drive-Bys on how disciplined she is, and how on-message she is, she's a bad candidate, and she's a bad candidate because she's not likable. She has a terrible delivery. She is a radical trying to conceal her radicalism, exactly as I told Martha MacCallum yesterday. She's trying to do everything she can to keep people from finding out what her real agenda is. That makes her appear like a flip-flopper and somebody who's unsure of herself à la this driver's licenses for illegals, and even that Las Vegas debate. The whole thing was a sop to Clinton. You have Carville, who works at CNN, Begala, who works at CNN, you have six Democrat operatives as question plants, while we're being told that they are undecided, independent voters and so forth. There were no hard questions from the moderators at all.

What Hillary is going for here is her party's apparatus. She wants to secure the power of the Democrat Party's apparatus and have that guarantee her the nomination rather than actually winning it in votes. She's gotta do both but the apparatus is who turns out votes for people. They're the ones who have the walking-around money. The apparatus is going to make sure that certain cauci caucis go to the cauci, you know, and caucus when they get to the cauci. She and her henchmen control the Democrat Party, Podesta's group, Media Matters for America, they control the party apparatus. Bill Clinton and Clinton, Inc. She's a poor candidate, despite the claim that she's disciplined and all that, and she knows she's a poor candidate. This is the dirty little secret, which is why she limits press contact. It's why she's raising a fortune for propaganda commercials so she doesn't have to do anything in person that actually reaches out and connects with people. (cont.)

"Inevitable" Hillary Takes Big Hit; Too Divisive, Too Many Negatives

[wai-ming]

Hillary doesn't need "likeability." She has cornered the market on number of things that will give her the nomination, and quite possibly the presidency:

1. Media.
The fawning MSM will do everything to insure that she wins. (Remember how Dan Rather tried to prevent Bush from getting elected--twice.)

2. Cheating.
Why pander for votes the old-fashioned way when you can cheat? The Dems are experts at it and are going to pull out all stops this time around.

3. Third party candidates.
Expect the Dems to encourage this. Hillary can't win with a simple majority. It's much easier to siphon votes away from the competition.

4. Fear-mongering.
Expect them to employ this tactic to the max, just like in previous campaigns. It is really Hillary that people should and do fear, for good reason.

5. Mudslinging, Hypocrisy, Untouchability.
Hillary will play dirty politics, all the while insisting that she is not. If anyone calls her on it, or gives her a taste of her own medicine, she will play the victim card.

[OmegaMan]

Bill is her ace in the hole. Alot of people will vote for her thinking that he’ll actually be running things behind the scenes.

[Miss Didi]

Bill is her ace in the hole. A lot of people will vote for her thinking that he’ll actually be running things behind the scenes.



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