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A lawsuit has been served against our Canadian "sister" site, Free Dominion.
Free Dominion ^ | 11-23-07 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 11/23/2007 3:43:25 AM PST by backhoe

Edited on 11/23/2007 1:22:32 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1340125#1340125
 
OUR FREEDOMS ARE NOT FREE


FREE DOMINION has expended thousands of dollars fighting human rights investigators and bringing the operations of human rights tribunals to public attention. FREE DOMINION faces an expensive legal appeal to carry its defence of our fundamental freedoms forward. We need your donations and support today.


Since Free Dominion was advised that it was the subject of a complaint to the Canadian Human Rights Commission in July 2007, and the CHRC could not even provide notice in a timely manner, their operations have been suspect. Free Dominion members and interested parties have invested thousands of hours scouring public records. The cumulative results are frightening.

Our human rights acts have been expanded to include groups and to include claims of contempt. There does not have to be an actual incident of expressing contempt, just likelihood that commentary might be regarded as contempt. There do not have to be any identified victims, only a likelihood that some people might take offence. Tribunals routinely refuse to disclose the substance of a case and evidence held to an accused, making preparation of a defence almost impossible. There are no set regulations for the operation of tribunals as they are empowered to make up rules on the fly. Hearsay evidence is routinely accepted and tribunals have held that telling the truth is not a defence.

Human rights laws require that an accused cooperate with tribunal investigation, no matter how demanding or ludicrous. Investigators are empowered to obtain search warrants and seize property if they feel they are thwarted by an accused.

Human rights tribunals have not faced public outrage as their decisions have not been reported. Most people are unaware of their subversive attack on our freedoms. Free Dominion is dedicated to changing that. We cannot allow people to be censured for expressing their honestly held beliefs or for following the tenets of their religion.

Free Dominion is currently under legal attack by a serial human rights complainant who sued for libel when our investigations revealed his part in destroying the reputations and stripping the freedoms of dozens of people as something they said was perceived likely to hurt unnamed third parties. We will not be censored for telling the truth.


To make a donation or to get further information, visit us today
http://www.freedominion.ca.

861 posted on 03/31/2009 1:20:18 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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Fair comment and double standards (they still don't get it)[ 1, 2 ]
"One of the great breakthroughs of the internet is the ability for common citizens to aggregate and have a honest-free flowing debate about topics that interest them.

Compare that with writing a letter to the editor, where it has a 0.1% of ever being published.

The internet (and Mark & Connie via FD) has empowered the common man."
 
OUR FREEDOMS ARE NOT FREE


FREE DOMINION has expended thousands of dollars fighting human rights investigators and bringing the operations of human rights tribunals to public attention. FREE DOMINION faces an expensive legal appeal to carry its defence of our fundamental freedoms forward. We need your donations and support today.


Since Free Dominion was advised that it was the subject of a complaint to the Canadian Human Rights Commission in July 2007, and the CHRC could not even provide notice in a timely manner, their operations have been suspect. Free Dominion members and interested parties have invested thousands of hours scouring public records. The cumulative results are frightening.

Our human rights acts have been expanded to include groups and to include claims of contempt. There does not have to be an actual incident of expressing contempt, just likelihood that commentary might be regarded as contempt. There do not have to be any identified victims, only a likelihood that some people might take offence. Tribunals routinely refuse to disclose the substance of a case and evidence held to an accused, making preparation of a defence almost impossible. There are no set regulations for the operation of tribunals as they are empowered to make up rules on the fly. Hearsay evidence is routinely accepted and tribunals have held that telling the truth is not a defence.

Human rights laws require that an accused cooperate with tribunal investigation, no matter how demanding or ludicrous. Investigators are empowered to obtain search warrants and seize property if they feel they are thwarted by an accused.

Human rights tribunals have not faced public outrage as their decisions have not been reported. Most people are unaware of their subversive attack on our freedoms. Free Dominion is dedicated to changing that. We cannot allow people to be censured for expressing their honestly held beliefs or for following the tenets of their religion.

Free Dominion is currently under legal attack by a serial human rights complainant who sued for libel when our investigations revealed his part in destroying the reputations and stripping the freedoms of dozens of people as something they said was perceived likely to hurt unnamed third parties. We will not be censored for telling the truth.


To make a donation or to get further information,
visit us today
http://www.freedominion.ca.




 
 

862 posted on 04/01/2009 1:04:23 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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If You've Ever Commented On The Net

This case should be of concern to you;

Free Dominion has been ordered to cough up the IPs of certain anonymous posters. What is disturbing about this order is that it was given prior to any ruling on the merits of the case. The order will be appealed.

The infuriating part of this fiasco is that as a blog owner, I've notified (by telephone and email) internet service providers when I've encountered potentially serious threats (the most recent was against a Liberal politician). These incidents should be clear "terms of service" violations, and easily acted upon by the ISP. Well, good luck with that.

I've even gone as far as filing a documented report with the RCMP and regional police over a persistent commentor who was making repeated, specific threats towards named individuals. To the best of my knowledge, those too went down a black hole.

I'm beginning to think that my tactics were flawed. Had I forwarded the ip addresses to the Canadian Human Rights Commission alleging that the commentor had stated it was "Time to go back to when the women n**ger imports knew their place", instead of merely threatening named police officers with execution, someone might have actually acted on the complaint.

(On the other hand, given the record of the CHRC, I'd end up standing before the 'roos as both complainant and defendant, so maybe not.)

So, go here for the details, and how to contribute. If you were planning to donate to SDA this spring, I'll ask that you send it to Free Dominion instead. The commenting freedom you save may be your own.


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863 posted on 04/01/2009 12:47:57 PM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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 The Real Double Standard in Canada -- Extreme Left and Right...


LOSS OF FREEDOMS OVERVIEW


 Very close to Warman vs Fournier case


 BRING OUT BIG GUNS:Electronic Frontier Foundation



864 posted on 04/06/2009 2:13:44 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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Thanks To The Efforts[1] Of A Certain Yellow-Volkswagon-Driving[2] Ignatieff Advisor

This event has been forced into a larger venue.

Footnotes:
[1] I initially wrote "hair-tearing", but changed it to "efforts" because that would be cruel.
[2] Adolph Hitler invented the Volkswagon.

Posted by Kate at 10:06 AM| Comments (61)

865 posted on 04/08/2009 2:06:30 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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HUMAN RIGHTS TALKING POINTS

866 posted on 04/11/2009 12:59:21 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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Connie interviewed by Brass Balls Radio

867 posted on 04/14/2009 12:34:32 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=117411
OUR FIGHT FOR FREEDOMS
BEGAN IN JULY 2007



Free Dominion has spent thousands of dollars fighting human rights investigators and in bringing the actions of human rights tribunals to public attention.

In late 2006 a casual browser on the Free Dominion web site decided that posts by a member could be considered discriminatory by the members of a minority group and filed a complaint with the CHRC. The complainant was not a member of the minority group and was no complaining on her own behalf.

In July 2007 the CHRC advised Free Dominion that it was under investigation. Our members were incensed and undertook hundreds of hours of research to establish what the Canadian Human Rights Commission was, how it operates, what similar cases had been investigated and what the result was.

Handcuffs



What our members unearthed appalled us. We found out that the majority of similar cases had been filed by a single complainant, and that the Human Rights Commission and Tribunal had never failed to convict someone investigated for alleged ‘hate crimes’.

Our members felt that the complainant was engaged in a witch hunt using the CHRC to punish those he disagrees with and reacted vocally and angrily. They were appalled at the methods and practises of the complainant and the Canadian Human Rights Commission and Canadian Human Rights Tribunal.

The CHRC suddenly announced that the complaint against Free Dominion had been withdrawn and that the investigation was ended. We have been unable to establish any details respecting the complaint, or of the CHRC investigation.

We waited for ’the other shoe’ to drop, convinced that the attack on Free Dominion was not over.

WE WERE NOT DISAPPOINTED



In November, 2007 the CHRC serial complainant commenced an action against us alleging that the Free Dominion and eight members had libelled him with remarks on the web site.

The action sat dormant until last fall when the plaintiff demanded that we provide him with the names and other personal details of the Free Dominion members referred to in the libel action.

We opposed the motion as there was no proof of any libel or other wrong-doing, only the unproven contentions contained in the plaintiff’s statement of claim. We went to court and the court ruled against us.

THE COURT DECISION
AND OUR
POLITICIZED COURTS



In a decision on the plaintiff's Motion before the Ontario Superior Court, Mr. Justice Stanley Kershman, in his reasons for decision, made the following statement:

[33] In the case before the court, we are dealing with an anti-hate speech advocate and Defendants whose website is so controversial that it is blocked to employees of the Ontario Public Service.

This statement is astonishing as the reputations of the parties were not at issue in the hearing. Neither side had made submissions on reputation. The comment is extraneous and outside the facts before the court.

Justice Kershman’s comments politicize the case at bar to the prejudice of the defendants. There is no clear, impartial and universally accepted measurement of what does and does not constitute a ‘controversial’ web site. No evidence was presented for consideration by the court.

Likewise, there was no evidence presented to the court that the plaintiff is an ‘anti-hate speech advocate’. He may be, but no evidence for the assertion was presented to the court for consideration.

The comment in the motion decision has politicized and prejudiced the case at the bar and prevents an unbiased hearing of facts at trial. Our justice system cannot allow its courts to engage in character assassination during interim proceedings.

A statement of claim is a declaration by a plaintiff that he intends to present certain evidence to the court in support of his claim but does not empower the plaintiff in any way.

The only means to review Justice Kershman’s decisions and rationale is by appeal. It is critical that the appeal be made to prevent this decision from standing as precedent as presented. We cannot allow a court to politicize a case, to be prejudiced by a statement of claim or to bring in extraneous commentary prejudicial to either side.

Protect Our Charter Rights



Censorship is an enemy of democracy, freedom and liberty; the things we hold most dear.

The Internet and our charter rights to the freedoms of belief, conscience, expression and religion are under attack. Internet forum hosts, including media outlets, are being attacked for allowing citizens to express their opinions and views on events, issues and news of the day.

Political correctness has run amok. We have Human Rights Commissions hunting for people who may have made utterances likely to expose a person or persons to contempt. We have various individuals and groups attempting to censor those whose beliefs or opinions they disagree with. We have censorship based on PC: “You can’t say that.” Incredible!

Democracy is messy. That is why it works. Canadians are exposed to a wide variety of beliefs and views. Our politicians express views that cause us to alternately cheer and jeer. It is no accident that parliamentarians enjoy the privilege of speaking their minds in the House and Senate free from concern over accusations of libel or slander. In heated exchanges, political correctness is forgotten along with decorum and manners.

Our society has always contained a smattering of rebellious people who hold beliefs and views that are shunned by the mainstream. We are not fragile flowers in need of a soothing hand when we are exposed to repulsive or vulgar actions and ideas. If we were, few of us could survive a week of the evening news or the ‘entertainment’ that pollutes the airwaves.

A healthy society must be exposed to opinion it may find repulsive. Citizens need to be able to counter views they find objectionable. Our politicians have stage managed elections to the point that from writ drop to voting day, no citizen voices are heard. The dialogue is restricted to exchanges between politicians and political party spokesmen. Ordinary citizens, electors, are left out and increasingly refuse to participate in a process that shuts out their opinions.

Internet forums, in particular political forums and blogs, are the last refuge of sane patriots, people who care about our nation and our society, people who want to examine issues and seek solutions, people who want to share their ideas and views and hone their knowledge of issues so they can write an informed letter to their paper or representative, and vote with confidence.

Politicians may have shut out the views of electors, in particular views they do not want to deal with, but electors have not shut out politicians. The Internet allows citizens to come together across vast distances and work together to influence our politics and governance. That makes politicians, political parties and vested interests nervous, which is as it should be.

Efforts to censor Internet dialogue amongst law-abiding citizens must end.

Connie &Mark
Connie & Mark Fournier

Connie and Mark Fournier founded the Free
Dominion web site in January 2001. Although
the site is dedicated to promoting principled
conservatism, its 9,300 (and growing)
membership represents diverse religious
and political beliefs. Members visit to discuss
and debate a wide range of local, national
and international issues and news items from
across Canada and throughout the world.

OUR CHARTER RIGHTS ARE UNDER ATTACK



Free Dominion is under attack for allowing its members to express their opinions and views openly. The web site and some members are accused of libel for expressing their opinions of those who attempt to censor and stifle commentary that they disagree with. The tactic is known as a legal chill and the objective is to run up legal bills for the defendants.

Debate and dialogue on issues of concern cannot be restricted to campaigning politicians or stifled by individuals or groups with an agenda. A healthy democracy requires that we argue and debate with those who seek to make changes to our society, its standards and values.

Canada has tens of thousands of people who have fled nations where they cannot speak freely without the risk of prison, torture or worse. Our freedoms to believe and worship as we wish have been bought by the blood of generations.

Attacks on our freedoms using ill-conceived legislation, quasi-judicial panels with no respect for the principles of justice and the misuse of our courts are no different than an attack on our freedoms at the point of a gun. Join our battle against tyranny.

This is a battle to preserve our freedoms that we can all join in and must not lose for the sake of future generations. Our duty is to pass on intact the freedoms we grew up enjoying.

If you believe in judicial impartiality, the principles of fundamental justice and in our equality before and under the law, please support the appeal of this decision by visiting www.freedominion,ca

868 posted on 04/20/2009 3:08:36 PM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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QUICK REFERENCE THREAD
OUR FIGHT FOR FREEDOMS
BEGAN IN JULY 2007



Free Dominion has spent thousands of dollars fighting human rights investigators and in bringing the actions of human rights tribunals to public attention.

In late 2006 a casual browser on the Free Dominion web site decided that posts by a member could be considered discriminatory by the members of a minority group and filed a complaint with the CHRC. The complainant was not a member of the minority group and was no complaining on her own behalf.

In July 2007 the CHRC advised Free Dominion that it was under investigation. Our members were incensed and undertook hundreds of hours of research to establish what the Canadian Human Rights Commission was, how it operates, what similar cases had been investigated and what the result was.

Handcuffs



What our members unearthed appalled us. We found out that the majority of similar cases had been filed by a single complainant, and that the Human Rights Commission and Tribunal had never failed to convict someone investigated for alleged ‘hate crimes’.

Our members felt that the complainant was engaged in a witch hunt using the CHRC to punish those he disagrees with and reacted vocally and angrily. They were appalled at the methods and practises of the complainant and the Canadian Human Rights Commission and Canadian Human Rights Tribunal.

The CHRC suddenly announced that the complaint against Free Dominion had been withdrawn and that the investigation was ended. We have been unable to establish any details respecting the complaint, or of the CHRC investigation.

We waited for ’the other shoe’ to drop, convinced that the attack on Free Dominion was not over.

WE WERE NOT DISAPPOINTED



In November, 2007 the CHRC serial complainant commenced an action against us alleging that the Free Dominion and eight members had libelled him with remarks on the web site.

The action sat dormant until last fall when the plaintiff demanded that we provide him with the names and other personal details of the Free Dominion members referred to in the libel action.

We opposed the motion as there was no proof of any libel or other wrong-doing, only the unproven contentions contained in the plaintiff’s statement of claim. We went to court and the court ruled against us.

THE COURT DECISION
AND OUR
POLITICIZED COURTS



In a decision on the plaintiff's Motion before the Ontario Superior Court, Mr. Justice Stanley Kershman, in his reasons for decision, made the following statement:

[33] In the case before the court, we are dealing with an anti-hate speech advocate and Defendants whose website is so controversial that it is blocked to employees of the Ontario Public Service.

This statement is astonishing as the reputations of the parties were not at issue in the hearing. Neither side had made submissions on reputation. The comment is extraneous and outside the facts before the court.

Justice Kershman’s comments politicize the case at bar to the prejudice of the defendants. There is no clear, impartial and universally accepted measurement of what does and does not constitute a ‘controversial’ web site. No evidence was presented for consideration by the court.

Likewise, there was no evidence presented to the court that the plaintiff is an ‘anti-hate speech advocate’. He may be, but no evidence for the assertion was presented to the court for consideration.

The comment in the motion decision has politicized and prejudiced the case at the bar and prevents an unbiased hearing of facts at trial. Our justice system cannot allow its courts to engage in character assassination during interim proceedings.

A statement of claim is a declaration by a plaintiff that he intends to present certain evidence to the court in support of his claim but does not empower the plaintiff in any way.

The only means to review Justice Kershman’s decisions and rationale is by appeal. It is critical that the appeal be made to prevent this decision from standing as precedent as presented. We cannot allow a court to politicize a case, to be prejudiced by a statement of claim or to bring in extraneous commentary prejudicial to either side.

Protect Our Charter Rights



Censorship is an enemy of democracy, freedom and liberty; the things we hold most dear.

The Internet and our charter rights to the freedoms of belief, conscience, expression and religion are under attack. Internet forum hosts, including media outlets, are being attacked for allowing citizens to express their opinions and views on events, issues and news of the day.

Political correctness has run amok. We have Human Rights Commissions hunting for people who may have made utterances likely to expose a person or persons to contempt. We have various individuals and groups attempting to censor those whose beliefs or opinions they disagree with. We have censorship based on PC: “You can’t say that.” Incredible!

Democracy is messy. That is why it works. Canadians are exposed to a wide variety of beliefs and views. Our politicians express views that cause us to alternately cheer and jeer. It is no accident that parliamentarians enjoy the privilege of speaking their minds in the House and Senate free from concern over accusations of libel or slander. In heated exchanges, political correctness is forgotten along with decorum and manners.

Our society has always contained a smattering of rebellious people who hold beliefs and views that are shunned by the mainstream. We are not fragile flowers in need of a soothing hand when we are exposed to repulsive or vulgar actions and ideas. If we were, few of us could survive a week of the evening news or the ‘entertainment’ that pollutes the airwaves.

A healthy society must be exposed to opinion it may find repulsive. Citizens need to be able to counter views they find objectionable. Our politicians have stage managed elections to the point that from writ drop to voting day, no citizen voices are heard. The dialogue is restricted to exchanges between politicians and political party spokesmen. Ordinary citizens, electors, are left out and increasingly refuse to participate in a process that shuts out their opinions.

Internet forums, in particular political forums and blogs, are the last refuge of sane patriots, people who care about our nation and our society, people who want to examine issues and seek solutions, people who want to share their ideas and views and hone their knowledge of issues so they can write an informed letter to their paper or representative, and vote with confidence.

Politicians may have shut out the views of electors, in particular views they do not want to deal with, but electors have not shut out politicians. The Internet allows citizens to come together across vast distances and work together to influence our politics and governance. That makes politicians, political parties and vested interests nervous, which is as it should be.

Efforts to censor Internet dialogue amongst law-abiding citizens must end.

Connie &Mark
Connie & Mark Fournier

Connie and Mark Fournier founded the Free
Dominion web site in January 2001. Although
the site is dedicated to promoting principled
conservatism, its 9,300 (and growing)
membership represents diverse religious
and political beliefs. Members visit to discuss
and debate a wide range of local, national
and international issues and news items from
across Canada and throughout the world.

OUR CHARTER RIGHTS ARE UNDER ATTACK



Free Dominion is under attack for allowing its members to express their opinions and views openly. The web site and some members are accused of libel for expressing their opinions of those who attempt to censor and stifle commentary that they disagree with. The tactic is known as a legal chill and the objective is to run up legal bills for the defendants.

Debate and dialogue on issues of concern cannot be restricted to campaigning politicians or stifled by individuals or groups with an agenda. A healthy democracy requires that we argue and debate with those who seek to make changes to our society, its standards and values.

Canada has tens of thousands of people who have fled nations where they cannot speak freely without the risk of prison, torture or worse. Our freedoms to believe and worship as we wish have been bought by the blood of generations.

Attacks on our freedoms using ill-conceived legislation, quasi-judicial panels with no respect for the principles of justice and the misuse of our courts are no different than an attack on our freedoms at the point of a gun. Join our battle against tyranny.

This is a battle to preserve our freedoms that we can all join in and must not lose for the sake of future generations. Our duty is to pass on intact the freedoms we grew up enjoying.

If you believe in judicial impartiality, the principles of fundamental justice and in our equality before and under the law, please support the appeal of this decision by visiting www.freedominion,ca

GOVERNMENT RIGHTS AGENCIES
DESTROY OUR
FUNDAMANTAL FREEDOMS.




Our fundamental, constitutionally protected freedoms of belief, expression, religion and thought are not protected by governments sworn to uphold our constitution and the rule of law. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms, part of our Constitution since 1982, protects the fundamental rights and freedoms of individual citizens from intrusion by the state.

The United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, (UDHR), enacted in December 1948, protects the fundamental rights and freedoms of all individuals. Canada subscribes to the UN universal human rights declaration.

The Canadian Human Rights Act (CHRA) was passed into law in 1977. We assume that the CHRA closely follows the UDHR but the CHRA does not prohibit discrimination based on birth, language, political or other opinion and property while the UDHR does. The CHRA prohibits discrimination based on age, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, disability and conviction for which a pardon has been granted while the UDHR does not.

The federal Human Rights Act was not the template for provincial legislation. The federal government was late to the ball. Every province except Saskatchewan had passed human rights legislation prior to the federal government. Legislation was enacted:: Ontario (1962); Nova Scotia (1963); Alberta (1966); New Brunswick (1967); Prince Edward Island (1968); Newfoundland (1969); British Columbia (1969); Manitoba (1970); Québec (1975); the Federal Government (1977); Saskatchewan (1980); Yukon (2002); Northwest Territories (2003); and Nunavut (2003)

The Criminal Code of Canada Sections 318 through 321.1 deal with hate crimes and hate propaganda. CHRA sections 12 and 13 duplicate sanctions against hate propaganda expanded as shown below and without any of the protections for an accused built into the criminal justice system. There is no valid reason or acceptable excuse for the duplication.

DEPARTURES FROM
RIGHTS LEGISLATION



There are three other major differences between the CHRA and other rights and freedoms legislation:

The government extended the CHRA to include Internet messaging when Bill C-36 passed into law in December 2001. Bill C-36 was described by the government as: an Act to combat terrorism (Anti-terrorism Act).

ORWELLIAN ABSURDITY



Our governments have created the absurd situation where someone can conclude that an Internet posting may possibly cause someone to feel that he is the subject of contempt and file a complaint with the CHRC. The spokesman for a group can conclude that a posting may cause some members to feel the subject of contempt and file a complaint. There is no need for the complainant to be directly involved, to show that any harm has been done or to prove that there are real victims. The CHRC will investigate imaginary harm to imaginary victims as if it was real.

Christians are under increasing attack as someone claims to be offended, or that his religious beliefs are compromised by public references to God, Christian prayers, the Commandments, or by Christian artefacts and displays. There is no consideration for the offence to the Christian.

Once a decision is made to proceed with a complaint, the CHRC can pursue an accused with vigour, and has the power to obtain a search warrant to obtain any information that it seeks. The respondent must undertake the costs of legal advice and defence. The system is thus open to abuse as a complainant has no ongoing costs of prosecution. The investigation process is punitive to the accused.

The CHRC usually initiates an investigation by demanding that an accused provide it with information about himself in direct violation of Charter Section 11 (c): Any person charged with an offence has the right … c) not to be compelled to be a witness in proceedings against that person in respect of the offence…

The CHRC powers to obtain a search warrant and seize records, which would include computers and related equipment, is a powerful and coercive incentive for an accused to give up his Charter right and provide the information demanded.

When the CHRC completes an investigation, and despite CHRA provisions for arbitration of a complaint, every case involving an Internet blog or forum has been referred to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal (CHRT) for prosecution.

The CHRT ignores our common-law based legal system entirely and operates in an Orwellian fantasy land.

An accused is denied disclosure of the case against him and cannot learn the rules of the hearing as each chairperson is given the authority to set the rules for that hearing on the fly during the proceedings. A Tribunal has ruled that telling the truth is not a legitimate defence at hearings. A Tribunal has listened to evidence that the freedom of expression is an American concept, not valid in Canada.

It is no wonder that the CHRC has ruled against the accused in every CHRA Section 13 (1) case it has considered. A contributing factor is that almost every person accused has lacked the means to hire and be represented by competent legal counsel.

Also troubling are recent CHRT rulings that not only require an accused to refrain from speaking to the subject of complaint for life, but also to impose fines that have been diverted to the complainant to offset alleged expenses. Since the CHRC and CHRT operate independently at public cost and do not require participation of the complainant, it is hard to imagine what costs a complainant could incur unless he was actively participating in allegedly independent processes.

NO VALID EXCUSES



The Canadian Human Rights Act is very bad law. There is no excuse for a law that allows the prosecution of a citizen for having caused imaginary harm to imaginary people or that allows the prosecution of a citizen for having offended another person. No Bill of Rights, Charter of Rights or Human Rights legislation anywhere else in the world provides a person or group with protection from feeling offended.

The freedoms of the chosen groups supported by the CHRC are having their freedoms undermined. When the freedoms of a citizen are overridden to assuage the hurt feelings of a visible minority, we all lose. In future, a person facing discrimination will have no recourse as the fundamental freedoms he should enjoy has been subverted to the power of the group.

The HRTs have made it clear that membership in a visible minority trumps the rights and freedoms of the individual. If HRC/HRTs are allowed to continue unchecked, individual freedoms and rights will be replaced by a competition amongst groups of individuals for power over our society.

If we consider the Charter in our constitution to be the benevolent Dr. Jekyll there is no question that the HRC/HRTs are the evil Mr. Hyde. We need to exorcise those sections of the CHRC that allow Mr. Hyde to exist.

REQUIRED REVISIONS



The purpose of the Canadian Human Rights Act (CHRA) is clearly set out in the Act:

The purpose of this Act is to extend the laws in Canada to give effect, within the purview of matters coming within the legislative authority of Parliament, to the principle that all individuals should have an opportunity equal, consistent with their duties and obligations as members of society, without being hindered in or with other individuals to make for themselves the lives that they are able and wish to have and to have their needs accommodated prevented from doing so by discriminatory practices based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, disability or conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted.

There is no provision in this purpose, nor should there be, for the protection of groups of any sort, and there is no provision in this purpose for protecting people from contempt. The person whose actions or behaviour invited contempt and derision may seek to claim discrimination, but is standing on quicksand and is unworthy of protection.

Groups of individuals cannot be protected under human rights legislation. Human rights, along with our fundamental charter rights and freedoms, rest with the individual.

Human Rights Commissions have adopted the approach that someone claiming discrimination is correct if he or she is a member of a visible minority and in effect requiring that an accused prove his or her innocence.

Canadian Human Rights Tribunals operate with no consistent rules of order or rules respecting evidence. It is impossible for an accused to properly defend himself when he cannot know what evidence may and may not be presented and cannot establish the rules of procedure.

Despite having an alleged through investigation by the CHRC, Tribunals routinely refuse to provide an accused with disclosure of evidence held against him, choosing instead to develop evidence during the hearing. While it may make for good theatre, it results in failed attempts at justice.

There is nothing in the Canadian Human Rights Act that requires Tribunal members to be impartial in their hearing and decision on a case. There is nothing that required a member of the Tribunal to recues themselves from a case in which they have a direct interest.

These are serious breaches of the fundamental principles of justice, and must be addressed.

PROTECTING OUR
FREEDOMS FROM
GOVERNMENT AGENTS



The Canadian Human Rights Act is very bad law. There is no excuse for a law that allows the prosecution of a citizen for having caused imaginary harm to imaginary people. There is no excuse for a law that allows the prosecution of a citizen for having offended another person. No Bill of Rights, Charter of Rights and Freedoms, or Human Rights legislation anywhere else in the world provides a person, let alone groups and persons unnamed, with protection from feeling offended.

The freedoms of the chosen groups supported by the CHRC are having their freedoms undermined by the sponsors they hold so dear.

When the freedoms of a citizen are overridden to assuage the hurt feelings of a visible minority, we all lose. Down the road, a person facing discrimination will have no recourse as the fundamental freedom he or she should enjoy has been subverted to the power of the group.

The HRCs are undermining a very important fundamental human right which is the right to equality before and under the law. The HRTs have made it very clear that membership in a visible minority group trumps the rights and freedoms of the individual. If HRC/HRTs are allowed to continue unchecked, individual freedoms and rights will disappear and be replaced by a competition amongst groups of individuals for power over our society.

If we consider the Charter in our constitution to be the benevolent Dr. Jekyll there is no question that the HRC/HRTs are the evil Mr. Hyde. We need to exorcise those sections of the CHRC that allow Mr. Hyde to exist.

The CHRC fails to protect the ultimate minority - the individual, and is thus a fraud.

REQUIRED REVISIONS



The purpose of the Canadian Human Rights Act (CHRA) is clearly set out in the Act:

The intent is to protect individuals from discrimination that would infringe on their equality as citizens and prevent them from enjoying an equal opportunity to prosper to the limit of their abilities within the framework of their duties and responsibilities as citizens.

There is no provision in this purpose, nor should there be, for the protection of groups of any sort, and there is no provision in this purpose for protecting people from contempt. The person whose actions or behaviour invited contempt and derision may seek to claim discrimination, but is standing on quicksand and is unworthy of protection.

Groups of individuals cannot be protected under human rights legislation. Human rights, along with our fundamental charter rights and freedoms, rest with the individual. Human Rights Commissions have adopted the approach that someone claiming discrimination is correct if he or she is a member of a visible minority and in effect requiring that an accused prove his or her innocence.

Canadian Human Rights Tribunals operate with no consistent rules of order or rules respecting evidence. It is very difficult if not impossible for an accused to properly defend himself when he cannot know what evidence may and may not be presented and cannot establish the rules of procedure. Despite having an alleged through investigation by the CHRC, Tribunals routinely refuse to provide an accused with disclosure of evidence held against him, choosing instead to develop evidence during the hearing. While it may make for good theatre, it results in failed attempts at justice.

Members of the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal are not required to be apolitical or to recuse themselves when they have a conflict of interest. There is nothing in the Canadian Human Rights Act that requires Tribunal members to be impartial in their hearing and decision on a case. There is nothing that required a member of the Tribunal to recues themselves from a case in which they have a direct interest. These are serious breaches of the fundamental principles of justice, and must be addressed.

At a minimum, the Canadian
Human Rights Act requires
the following amendments:

The Canadian Human Rights Act came into force in 1977, five years prior to enactment of the 1982 Constitution and Charter of Rights and Freedoms. While the Criminal Code has been amended as a result of a barrage of Charter challenges, there has been no similar spate of Charter challenges to the CHRA in part because accused persons do not have the funds to mount a court challenge while criminals have the advantage of having their challenges funded by legal aid. That increases the responsibility of our legislators to review and amend the Canadian Human Rights Act to ensure that its provisions and operations are not in violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

If someone was charged under the Criminal Code hate crimes provisions and the case was then turned over to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal for a hearing and decision, the protest would reverberate in the media for months. That should tell legislators that they cannot continue to ignore the monstrosity they have created.

IF YOU LOVE YOUR LIBERTY
AND FREEDOMS,
JOIN US IN THE BATTLE
TO PRESERVE THEM



If you believe in judicial impartiality, the principles of fundamental justice and in our equality before and under the law, please support the appeal of this decision by visiting www.freedominion,ca

869 posted on 04/21/2009 7:10:13 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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And, now for the GOOD NEWS! [ 1, 2 ]
WE WON OUR MOTION! Hurray

870 posted on 04/27/2009 12:12:20 PM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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-FD Leave to Appeal - Analysis--


871 posted on 04/29/2009 12:58:06 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To bring you up to speed- a synopsis:

Bear in mind,  Canada has no Bill of Rights- the have the Charter of Rights, which sounds very nice, and similar to our BOR- but it has no force in practice- it is merely window dressing. Therefore, in matters regarding suits, and the onerous Human Rights Commissions, there are no protections of free speech.

The main turns of events started in 2007- going here:

-QUICK REFERENCE THREAD—

you will see the current problem FD’s operators face is a lawsuit from serial Human Rights Commission complainant Richard Warman.  Recently, they won a right to appeal ( which is far from “winning,” mind you- it just buys time and kicks the action a little higher ) here:

-And now for the good news—

More here:

-FD Leave to Appeal - Analysis—

And for those who want even more, the forum has a whole subforum here:

-Censorship Files - The Blogosphere under attack—

Also bear in mind the above-referenced action is a suit, in a court of law, where some protections are provided the defendants—but lurking below all this is the Canadian Human Rights Commission which was FD’s original problem ( since dropped, but still behind the scenes ) here:

-Human Rights attack on Free Dominion—

872 posted on 05/07/2009 12:32:37 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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Have any of the FD 8 been served?[ 1, 2, 3, 4 ]
 
"I feel like I've just watched the Gestapo break down my neighbour's door and haul away a couple more Jews, but we still have advantages the Jews didn't have back then. We beat these bastards in the 1940's in Germany and we'll beat them again in the 2,000's in Canada.

The best defense against censorship is the light of day and Free Dominion will keep that light shining brightly.

No fear. These people attacking our freedom are the lowest form of political scum and they will be condemned by their own actions." Mark Fournier

873 posted on 05/31/2009 4:50:38 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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CBC's The Sunday Edition with Michael Enright (re Canadian Human Rights Commission)
874 posted on 06/07/2009 12:29:25 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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Peter O'Donnell fights back -- my statement to Warman
875 posted on 06/08/2009 12:06:02 PM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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OK, now I'm REALLY mad!!![ 1, 2, 3 ]
 
I finally got a look at the most recent affidavit submitted about the John Doe defendants.

It is full of all kinds of personal information, maps to their houses, and pictures of their children and spouses.
 
CHRT files: Viva Las Vegas
I'll leave you readers with this thought.....


In the case of Warman v Guille, Melissa Guille, who posted not a thing offensive, and a young mother of 2 children who working for minimum wage and unable to afford legal representation was told at her tribual hearing to
Quote:

" sell your couch to pay for legal help"



First Class or is it No Class ?

876 posted on 06/10/2009 2:03:37 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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FD, Warman and the CHRC - The whole sordid story...

877 posted on 06/11/2009 1:08:08 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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Anti-Racist/ARA Thugs covering their butts now!
878 posted on 06/11/2009 3:26:57 PM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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In the absence of Richard Warman... - Mark Steyn
So take him away, and then we can take Section 13 away. As I've been saying for a year and a half now, out of 30 million Canadians, why should Richard Warman be the only one to have his very own law? One can debate whether his obsessive pattern of personal score-settling on the taxpayer's dime is evidence of a sociopathic disorder or merely a lucrative shakedown racket, but either way it doesn't pass the smell test.
879 posted on 06/12/2009 1:09:35 PM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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Back later.


880 posted on 06/12/2009 1:11:40 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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