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SAS ANNOUNCES AMICUS BRIEF IN HELLER
Second Amendment Sisters, Inc. ^ | 11/26/2007 | Genie Jennings, SAS Spokesperson

Posted on 11/26/2007 1:22:24 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama

FROM THE SECOND AMENDMENT SISTERS
900 R.R. 620 S
Suite C101, Box 228
Lakeway, TX 78734
World Wide Web: http://www.2asisters.org
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 11/20/07
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For additional information contact:
Genie Jennings, SAS Spokesperson
Phone: 877-271-6216
E-mail: saspress@2asisters.org
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Lakeway, TX –

SAS ANNOUNCES AMICUS BRIEF IN HELLER

Second Amendment Sisters is pleased and proud to announce that we are joining South East Legal Foundation in filing an amicus brief in the Supreme Court hearing of Washington, D.C. v. Heller. We are particularly interested in the benefits of firearms in self-defense for women, the elderly and the disabled.

SAS has watched this case closely, since it was originally prepared as Parker v. Washington, D.C. The successful outcome of that case in the lower court was heartening to all who believe in the Second Amendment and in the basic human right of self-defense.

The city’s 1975 handgun ban has made it impossible for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves and their families within the confines of their own domiciles. If this prohibitive law is found unconstitutional, for the first time in three decades residents of the nation’s capitol will be allowed to have an effective means of protection within their homes.

This case does not address carrying a firearm, either concealed or openly, on the streets of the city. It does not address the legality of the city to control the use of firearms in the city. It addresses the constitutionality of the city to override the Second Amendment rights of individuals to keep and bear arms.

Second Amendment Sisters believes that self-defense is a basic human right. We have a right to life; we have a right to defend that right and the rights of those around us; we have a right to the means to do so.

If we are denied the means to defend our life, we are effectively denied our right to life. For over thirty years the citizens of Washington, D.C. have been denied the right to a means of protecting their lives, and thereby denied their basic human right to life.

We are confident in a positive outcome to the Supreme Court hearing. Individual rights are important to both conservative and liberal judges.

Second Amendment Sisters is a grassroots organization dedicated to preserving the individual basic human right to self-defense.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amicusbrief; banglist; constitution; heller; parker; sas

1 posted on 11/26/2007 1:22:25 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama
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To: basil; dbwz; Ladysmith; songbird51; Jhohanna; spitter; SecondAmendment SASter; mombrown1; ...

Ping


2 posted on 11/26/2007 1:23:23 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Well done, you. Send me re-up papers.


3 posted on 11/26/2007 1:25:58 PM PST by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Do amicus briefs ever have any sway with the courts?.................


4 posted on 11/26/2007 1:26:32 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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Anyone know when the DC brief deadline is?


5 posted on 11/26/2007 1:36:33 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: patton

Okay - now I understand your FreepMail....LOL

Will do and thanks!


6 posted on 11/26/2007 1:42:55 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Don't Mess With the SAS!


7 posted on 11/26/2007 1:45:10 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

As exciting as this is, to finally get a chance to get the Supreme Court to look at this Amendment...

I am tempered by the fact that this court, as favorable as it looks on the surface is not a lock in our favor...

And that the question posed to the court is extremely narrow, but from our perspective we are expecting or demanding a broad opinion from it...

Some are thinking this could be a 5-4 opinion in our favor, but if it is presented (argued) weakly or incorrectly, it could very easily go 6-3 against us...

I would caution us to be on guard next year when we see what they do with this...

But by then we’ll know what the score is...And we’ll still have our “stuff”...

Like I’ve said before...I hope I am wrong...I’m just not building up too much excitement or hope...


8 posted on 11/26/2007 1:49:45 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Way to go SAS, well done. :)


9 posted on 11/26/2007 1:50:22 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Glad to see the second amendment followed by women.
I wonder if the person below is a member of your group?

Here’s the video of Suzanne Hupp testifying before congress.

http://www.washingtonceasefire.com/content/view/23/35/

Just one final statement.
I’ve been sitting here getting more and more fed up with all of this talk about these, pieces of machinery, having no legitimate sporting purpose, no legitimate hunting purpose, people, that is not the point of the second amendment!
The second amendment is not about duck hunting, and I know I’m not going to make very many friends saying this, but it’s about our right, all of our right to be able to protect our selves from all of you guys up there.
And nobody’s talked about that.

Dr. Suzanna Gratia, Killeen massacre survivor who watched as her parents were murdered because she obeyed Texas law and left her handgun locked in her car. Appearing before Rep Schumer’s committee hearings on the assault weapons ban

10 posted on 11/26/2007 1:59:43 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy and Romney voters send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Some are thinking this could be a 5-4 opinion in our favor, but if it is presented (argued) weakly or incorrectly, it could very easily go 6-3 against us...


Fear not. It was argued brilliantly below, and the opinion below is extremely solid. All the burden is on DC, and they have no real case. Look for at least 7-2, maybe 9-0. (Or multiple concurrences, all upholding the court below.)


11 posted on 11/26/2007 2:13:34 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: facedown

ping


12 posted on 11/26/2007 2:22:08 PM PST by sistergoldenhair
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Dr. Suzannah Gratia-Hupp is a Lifetime Member of SAS.


13 posted on 11/26/2007 2:37:13 PM PST by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: basil

Thank you!


14 posted on 11/26/2007 2:43:18 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy and Romney voters send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

here is a link that will work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f12XrQ6H0Og

semper fi


15 posted on 11/26/2007 2:45:28 PM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

here is a link that will work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f12XrQ6H0Og

semper fi


16 posted on 11/26/2007 2:45:28 PM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Second Amendment Sisters believes that self-defense is a basic human right

Amen

17 posted on 11/26/2007 2:47:57 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

Thank you, I have not watched my link in several months and
I will add your link.


18 posted on 11/26/2007 2:55:29 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy and Romney voters send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

Bump!!


19 posted on 11/26/2007 2:55:49 PM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.

Heinrich Himmler

20 posted on 11/26/2007 3:04:03 PM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Here is the site of another organization working to protect our rights.

http://www.saf.org/


21 posted on 11/26/2007 3:08:22 PM PST by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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To: mewzilla

Ideas are far more powerful than guns.
We don’t allow our enemies to have guns,
why should we allow them to have ideas?
Joseph Stalin (1879 - 1953)


22 posted on 11/26/2007 3:20:31 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy and Romney voters send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Dr. Suzanna Gratia, Killeen massacre survivor who watched as her parents were murdered because she obeyed Texas law and left her handgun locked in her car.

Well not quite. As I've heard her say, in person, she left the gun in the vehicle (a CAR In Copperrus Cove Texas, surely you jest. :) ) because she was afraid of getting *caught* disobeying the law. It was just as illegal to have it in the glove box or console of her vehicle as it would have been in her purse, but the chances of getting caught, for an attractive Red Headed Lady chiropractor, with it in her vehicle in Central Texas were slim. Not so a firearm in a purse, perhaps especially that of an atrractive young unmarried lady (at the time)

So she skirted the law, and her parents, and others, are dead because she didn't want to risk losing her license to practice her profession.

Although I didn't at the time, I now live in Killeen, and the Lubys is now a Chinese restaurant. I like Chinese, but I can't bring myself to go in to that one.

Sadly she is no longer a Texas State representative. I think she'd done what she set out to do, and now has significant family obligations. A coworker took his CHL renewal class with her husband.

23 posted on 11/26/2007 3:41:15 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
I was stationed at Ft. Hood, 57 through 59 and I had a girl friend In "Copperrus Cove" Copperas Cove, Texas.
I owned a car and drove there several times a week!
24 posted on 11/26/2007 3:57:20 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy and Romney voters send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Forgot the all important, to us guys anyway, picture. The same rule applies for Dr. Gratia-Hupp as for Ann Coulter.

I also found a picture of some of the other SAS ladies.

Members of the Second Amendment Sisters, from left, Mary Thompson, Diane McKeough, Dianne Sawyer, and Deb Wasilewski

if the photo doesn't come through (it's already in my cache so I see it), go here

25 posted on 11/26/2007 3:57:35 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mewzilla

That quote makes me ask where in heck is that other weasel senator from NY ?

Slimy Schumer ?

He’s been out of the sedition spotlight lately ?

Whats he up too ?


26 posted on 11/26/2007 3:57:37 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Red Badger
Do amicus briefs ever have any sway with the courts?.................

Nor more, and probably a bit less, than the briefs by the appellants and respondents.

27 posted on 11/26/2007 3:59:18 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Beelzebubba

I agree, but if it was argued briliantly in the Circuit Court, then it should not have been accepted by the Supreme Court to review at all when the ruling there was appealed...

The only way any of this will be beaten back enough will be when un-Constitutional legislation at any level in government is voted on and approved and signed, that those elected officials, regardless of political affiliation are held legally in jeopardy, put into prison and punished for these blatant infringements on our freedoms (any freedom, not just the right to keep and bear arms) nothing will change...

In the meantime, I and many others will still have the means to resist the tyrrany of good intentions, however stupid those people are...

Many would like to nip it in the bud before it got too bad, but it looks like the stoopid people believe no one has the resolve to resist...

So throw out the dare...I’m sure not afraid to pick up the gauntlet...As an individual I’ll lose, but as a group, everyone wins!

But thats way down the road...I hope I am wrong...


28 posted on 11/26/2007 4:17:02 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Also the Second Amendment Foundation is also chipping in the Amicus. I donated 100.00 to the cause. This is the best money I have ever spent. I ask all of you to donate to some group writing an amicus. Even if it is 1.00. Nothing is as important than this USSC case. Might as well support the cause.


29 posted on 11/26/2007 4:22:33 PM PST by therut
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To: Squantos
Slimy Schumer ?

He’s been out of the sedition spotlight lately ?

Whats he up too ?

He's scheming to get HR 2640 through the Senate, but Coburn and DeMint have been thwarting him. Other than that the neoCOMs have been laying low on the 2nd Amendment. Heller was the last thing they wanted on the table for 2008.

30 posted on 11/26/2007 4:29:06 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

Cool ....when I don’t see that dog craping on the media lawn 3 times a day I get paranoid !

Thanks Doc !


31 posted on 11/26/2007 4:38:55 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: mewzilla

That quote is even more powerful when you put it next to this one:

“If you want assault rifles, join the army. We have lots of them.”

- Wesley Clark


32 posted on 11/26/2007 5:47:23 PM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: El Gato

Women with guns are hotter bump


33 posted on 11/26/2007 5:58:03 PM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: ctdonath2

January


34 posted on 11/26/2007 7:03:22 PM PST by mombrown1 (PA Coordinatior SAS The Second Amendment is the reset button for the First.)
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To: stevie_d_64

I don’t thing you are wrong (unfortunately).


35 posted on 11/26/2007 7:09:23 PM PST by MonicaG (In hoc signo vinces)
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To: Red Badger

to keep my briefs from swaying, i wear a second amendment thong...

new meaning to shall not be infringed.

teeman


36 posted on 11/26/2007 7:11:10 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: stevie_d_64

Y’all might be interested in this

From Mike Stollenwerk of opencarry.org

The press is not reporting the authorities correctly.

The SU Supreme Court has repeatedly spoke to the Second Amendment as securing an individual right to bear arms.

In modern times: U.S. v. Miller (appearing to hold that if an arm was in common use and suitable for militia duty it was exempt from federal tax stamp requirements; United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez & Johnson v. Eisentrager (analogizing to the right to bear arms in the Second Amendment as belonging to the people like all the other rights in there Bill of Rights).

Ginsberg and Stevens **concurred** in the result of United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259 (1990) (analogizing that the meaning of the term “people” in the 4th Amendment to was like that of the Second Amendment - Scalia and Kennedy joined the opinion writing this text;

See http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=CASE&court=US&vol=494&page=259:

SNIP
The Fourth Amendment provides:
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
That text, by contrast with the Fifth and Sixth Amendments, extends its reach only to “the people.” Contrary to the suggestion of amici curiae that the Framers used this phrase “simply to avoid [an] awkward rhetorical redundancy,” Brief for American Civil Liberties Union et al. as Amici Curiae 12, n. 4, “the people” seems to have been a term of art employed in select parts of the Constitution. The Preamble declares that the Constitution is ordained and established by “the people of the United States.” The Second Amendment protects “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,” and the Ninth and Tenth Amendments provide that certain rights and powers are retained by and reserved to “the people.” See also U.S. Const., Amdt. 1 (”Congress shall make no law . . . abridging . . . the right of the people peaceably to assemble”) (emphasis added); Art. I, 2, cl. 1 (”The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the people of the several States”) (emphasis added). While this textual exegesis is by no means conclusive, it suggests that “the people” protected by the Fourth Amendment, and by the First and Second Amendments, and to whom rights and powers are reserved in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, refers to a class of persons who are part of a national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection with this country to be considered part of that community.

The Supreme Court said the same thing earlier in Johnson_v._Eisentrager, see http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=CASE&court=US&vol=339&page=763:

SNIP

If the Fifth Amendment confers its rights on all the world except Americans engaged in defending it, the same must be true of the companion civil-rights Amendments, for none of them is limited by its express terms, territorially or as to persons. Such a construction would mean that during military occupation irreconcilable enemy elements, guerrilla fighters, and “werewolves” could require the American Judiciary to assure them freedoms of speech, press, and assembly as in the First Amendment, right to bear arms as in the Second, security against “unreasonable” searches and seizures as in the Fourth, as well as rights to jury trial as in the Fifth and Sixth Amendments.


37 posted on 11/26/2007 7:34:38 PM PST by mombrown1 (PA Coordinatior SAS The Second Amendment is the reset button for the First.)
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To: therut

TO ALL

SAS is always open for donations.


38 posted on 11/26/2007 7:47:56 PM PST by mombrown1 (PA Coordinatior SAS The Second Amendment is the reset button for the First.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; basil

EXCELLENT! Nice going, Ladies. :-)


39 posted on 11/26/2007 8:39:06 PM PST by dbwz (kthxbai)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
When I saw the headline, I thought that these folks were weighing in on the case.


40 posted on 11/27/2007 6:16:12 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; Joe Brower

BTTT


41 posted on 11/27/2007 8:53:26 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
SASsy ping!

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

42 posted on 11/27/2007 8:56:15 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Squantos
Whats he up too ?

Putting up a token protest to the Citigroup Abu Dhabi deal last I checked :)

43 posted on 11/27/2007 8:58:44 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Good for you all.

Go get em!


44 posted on 11/27/2007 9:00:11 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I am a proud anti-invasion racist!)
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To: Army Air Corps

I thought that too.


45 posted on 11/27/2007 9:29:25 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
nation’s capitol will be allowed

In the nation's capital, not "capitol." Capital is the city. Capitol is the building in the capital in which laws are promulgated.
46 posted on 11/27/2007 9:53:06 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
That's been corrected on our site Second Amendment Sisters. In fact, there are a few other changes that we've made to this original press release. It was posted here before being sent out to the press!!!
47 posted on 11/27/2007 11:19:22 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: mombrown1

“The SU Supreme Court has repeatedly spoke to the Second Amendment as securing an individual right to bear arms.

In modern times: U.S. v. Miller (appearing to hold that if an arm was in common use and suitable for militia duty it was exempt from federal tax stamp requirements;”

The very fact that *Miller* was decided on the merits means a LOT. The USSC doesn’t like to decide cases, especially political issue cases, and denies cert. in something like 99% of all filings. The Court could easily have said, “Miller failed to state a claim, cert. denied.” This would be identical to the Silviera v. Lockyer case, in which the 9th Circus said that the 2nd isn’t about individual rights, therefore no individual can bring a case. No, in Miller the case was decided with the assumption that Miller had a 2nd Amendment RKBA, and the specific issue decided was whether the gun he had was protected by the 2nd. Of course, the decision was non-sensical:

“In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a “shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length” at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense.”

That short barreled shotguns were useful to the military was beyond question - they were known as “trench brooms” in WW1, which occurred only about 20 years previously. Under Miller, we’d all have the right to go out and purchase a full auto M16 or M4.

Here’s a great link for a discussion on Miller: http://www.rkba.org/research/miller/Miller.html


48 posted on 11/27/2007 12:37:43 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: 2nd amendment mama
It was posted here before being sent out to the press!!!

Cool!
49 posted on 11/27/2007 1:07:25 PM PST by aruanan
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To: 2nd amendment mama

bump 4 sexy 2a mamas :-)


50 posted on 11/27/2007 10:40:35 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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