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Hillary not ruling out putting impeached husband on ticket as VP.
AM630 WMAL | 11/27/2007 | Kevin

Posted on 11/27/2007 7:56:27 AM PST by LetsRok

I heard on the news this morning on WMAL in Washington that Hillary has NOT ruled out putting her impeached husband on the ballot as her VP.

Is this legal?? The Constitution says candidates for VP MUST be eligible to be President. Bubba is not eligible since he has served his two terms.


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To: Phantom Lord
Let me correct my post I am referring to. It is amendment 22, not 25.

bad fingers!

51 posted on 11/27/2007 8:19:47 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: LetsRok

Patently unconstitutional.


52 posted on 11/27/2007 8:19:51 AM PST by Constitution Day (Everything was fine until membership lost its privileges)
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To: SoldierDad

If I were BJC, I would be thinking “I gotta take her out no matter what...especially if she loses...” What will she need this big oaf for when that happens? It won’t be pretty, I can tell you. They have so much on each other that Bill better watch those heart meds before one of Hill’s minions does the ol’ switcheroo.

Geez, Honey, I did all I could to help you, but the People just weren’t having it. I can give you the words, but I just can’t give you my charm...........


53 posted on 11/27/2007 8:19:57 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Beelzebubba

Amendment XII....But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.


54 posted on 11/27/2007 8:20:49 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: Phantom Lord

Howdy PL!


55 posted on 11/27/2007 8:20:57 AM PST by Constitution Day (Everything was fine until membership lost its privileges)
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To: AU72
They’ll have to legally seperate as you can’t have a Presidential ticket, both from the same state.

This is a misconception. They can both be from the same state - but the electors from New York would not be able to vote for both of them if they are both from New York. If they voted for Hillary for president, they would have to vote for the other VP candidate, which could cause us to have a president from one party and a VP from the other.

56 posted on 11/27/2007 8:21:35 AM PST by CA Conservative
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To: Constitution Day

YO!


57 posted on 11/27/2007 8:21:39 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I disagree, it does not disallow a president to be vice president, he just cannot be president again. President Pelosi would follow a disabled Clinton. In a way the only thing standing between impeachment of Bush and President Pelosi is Cheney and 35 senators. Good health Dick.


58 posted on 11/27/2007 8:21:40 AM PST by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, the amoral party of what if and whine.)
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To: AU72
They’ll have to legally seperate as you can’t have a Presidential ticket, both from the same state.

A state's electors cannot vote for both President and VP from their own state. Thus New Yorkansas's electors couldn't vote for both. They would vote for another VP and if because of that no VP ends up with the 270 votes needed the VP choice will be kicked to the (likely Dem) Senate and they vote for him.

And all that assumes that he doesn't just make a quick move back to Arkansas.

59 posted on 11/27/2007 8:22:15 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Government is the hired help - not the boss. When politicians forget that they must be fired.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Yes, the President and VP can NOT be from the same state (based on legal residence).

Why not?

60 posted on 11/27/2007 8:23:11 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: AU72

Yes, but if they legally separate, will they still both be brother and sister?


61 posted on 11/27/2007 8:23:27 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triagle of death)
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To: LetsRok

She would be in a VA park with 6 months dead.


62 posted on 11/27/2007 8:23:27 AM PST by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: LetsRok

Not legal forget it. rat bull shiite.


63 posted on 11/27/2007 8:23:56 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: LetsRok

Heh, sounds like you(or someone) fell for “Make stuff up Tuesday”


64 posted on 11/27/2007 8:24:53 AM PST by Malsua
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To: madeinchina; John Valentine
From the 12th Amendment:

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

It becomes a somewhat gray area between the two amendments. Clearly, the INTENT is that a two term president could not be vice president; however, it never actually states that they couldn't because of the wording of the 22nd Amendment. For certain, he would not be allowed to run again if he succeeded in someone else's term.

65 posted on 11/27/2007 8:26:01 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: John Valentine

Whatever, the office is window dressing anyway - the VP can’t even sign for a pizza.


66 posted on 11/27/2007 8:26:29 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: AU72

I believe that is so.


67 posted on 11/27/2007 8:27:04 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
My money is on either Breck Girl or Bill Richardson.

Bar9,

Heck "Joementum" Lieberman is looking good to me at this point compared to the batch of fakata carnival clowns they are running now! (not that I would, but you get the point)

Lieberman with former CIA director James Woolsey would be a ticket that would worry me.....

68 posted on 11/27/2007 8:27:12 AM PST by taildragger
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To: Lazarus Longer; rintense

If true, you know Hillary will have 24/7 security to protect her life!
My thought exactly. It’s a win-win for Bill — get rid of the old battleaxe and get back the Presidency.

Actually it’s the other way around. If Hillary! wins(Bleecchh) I don’t think she will put up with his shenanigans. Billy’s got a bad ticker. Built in excuse to cover for the ultimate Arkancide.


69 posted on 11/27/2007 8:27:41 AM PST by GQuagmire (Giggety,Giggety,Giggety)
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To: CA Conservative
they would have to vote for the other VP candidate

No, they could vote for someone else entirely. Thus in a close election we could have:

Hillary/Bill: 239
Two Republicans: 268
Hillary/Hillary's non-New York sock puppet: 31

This would kick the VP election the the (likely Dem) Senate.

70 posted on 11/27/2007 8:28:29 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Government is the hired help - not the boss. When politicians forget that they must be fired.)
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To: LetsRok
Can she do this?

On the ticket, yes. In Cheney's house, no.

71 posted on 11/27/2007 8:28:46 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: LetsRok

Two blockades:

1) VP must be eligible for President and he isn’t

2) VP nominee must reside in a different State than the Presidential nominee. Right now, both reside in New York. Do the Clintons really want to prove critics correct about their sham marriage?


72 posted on 11/27/2007 8:29:40 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: LetsRok

It is a legal question. From http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/19/AR2006101901572.html :

One side of the argument is

Scott E. Gant, a partner at Boies, Schiller & Flexner in Washington, and Bruce G. Peabody, an assistant professor of political science at Fairleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey: “In preventing individuals from being elected to the presidency more than twice, the [22nd] amendment does not preclude a former president from again assuming the presidency by means other than election, including succession from the vice presidency,” they wrote. “If this view is correct, then Clinton is not ‘constitutionally ineligible to the office of president,’ and is not barred by the 12th Amendment from being elected vice president.”

The other point of view:

Judge Richard A. Posner of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit said by e-mail that “read literally, the 22nd Amendment does not apply” and therefore Clinton could be vice president. “But one could argue that since the vice president is elected . . . should he take office he would be in effect elected president. Electing a vice president means electing a vice president and contingently electing him as president. That interpretation, though a little bold, would honor the intention behind the 22nd Amendment.”


73 posted on 11/27/2007 8:31:19 AM PST by TrainSaw
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To: L98Fiero; AU72; Phantom Lord

I stand corrected.


74 posted on 11/27/2007 8:31:22 AM PST by stevio ((NRA))
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To: Publius Valerius

Its a constitutional thing. And think back to 2000. As soon as Cheney agreed to be Bush’s VP he changed his residence from Texas to Wyoming. Now, I wonder why he did that?


75 posted on 11/27/2007 8:31:24 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Publius Valerius
...but the 12th Amendment is pretty expansive, stating that no person who is constitutionally ineligible for the office of President shall be eligible for Vice President.

But, Bill Clinton is NOT Constitutionally ineligible for the office of President. That phrase (probably) does not encompass the limitations of the 22nd, but even if it did, the ineligibility described is a procedural one that would not be triggered if he were not elected.

76 posted on 11/27/2007 8:31:28 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: LetsRok

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/19/AR2006101901572.html

VP Bill? Depends on Meaning of ‘Elected’

By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 20, 2006; Page A19

EXCERPT

One constitutional lawyer not heard from on the issue is William Jefferson Clinton, Yale Law class of 1973. But he has offered thoughts on the 22nd Amendment. Before leaving office and again in 2003, he suggested amending the amendment to let a two-term president leave office and then run again: “Since people are living much longer . . . the 22nd Amendment should probably be modified to say two consecutive terms instead of two terms for a lifetime.”


77 posted on 11/27/2007 8:31:44 AM PST by maggief
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To: madeinchina

That’s it!


78 posted on 11/27/2007 8:32:04 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: TommyDale

Gee, I thought Bubba the rapist wanted to head of the UN.


79 posted on 11/27/2007 8:32:12 AM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: John Valentine
OK I read the 12th. In the case of the Clintons, NY electors can vote for one or the other, not both.

Not practical.

That aside I like to see 'em try. The firestorm would dwarf the Eagleton and Quayle VP picks.

80 posted on 11/27/2007 8:34:09 AM PST by AU72
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To: LetsRok

So much for the smartest woman in the world, standing on her own accomplishments! The Heinous Harridan knows she is nothing without Bubba, and she will have to fly her broom on his coattails to get anywhere in this campaign.


81 posted on 11/27/2007 8:34:32 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: LetsRok

I would imagine that she is just showing how much she loves her dear, dear husband. Then she will regretfully add, “But my legal advisers tell me it’s not possible! What a shame!”


82 posted on 11/27/2007 8:34:49 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AU72

“They’ll have to legally seperate as you can’t have a Presidential ticket, both from the same state.”

Is that in the Constitution somewhere? I confess ignorance on this. Interesting if you are right. I didn’t know this was the case.


83 posted on 11/27/2007 8:35:12 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: LetsRok

This raises an interesting question. Obviously, Der Schlickmeister can’t serve as VP as he’s ineligible to become President; he’s already served two terms in that office. But the real question is: Can Hillary serve as President? After all, she has already served two terms as “co-President”, has she not?


84 posted on 11/27/2007 8:35:44 AM PST by Redcloak (This post certified 100% Hillary-free. um... Never mind.)
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To: listenhillary

Didn’t Cheney move to WY from TX before the 2000 race?


85 posted on 11/27/2007 8:38:20 AM PST by TwoSue
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To: LetsRok

Why not a Bill, Monica, Web Hubbell and Chelsea tag team Vice Presidency? Mud wrestling every Saturday night in the oval office. Much more entertaining than that Cheney guy.


86 posted on 11/27/2007 8:38:59 AM PST by kylaka
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To: LetsRok
My reading of the 22nd amendment suggests that Billy Bob could serve out the remainder of a President's term.It forbids anyone from being *elected* to the office more than twice.But it must be said that I'm no Constitutional scholar or English scholar.

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term [a term is four years] to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once...

87 posted on 11/27/2007 8:39:02 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Is that in the Constitution somewhere?

Actualy it says electors for a state cannot vote for both President and VP if they are both from that state. It could produce a weird result of President Hillary Clinton and VP Duncan Hunter.

88 posted on 11/27/2007 8:40:08 AM PST by AU72
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

If the Dims go into Convention w/o a nominee, it will be a brokered convention, and if they can’t agree by the 3rd or 4th ballot, Gore will be offered the run. He will accept, albeit ‘reluctantly’.

Well, it’s as conceivable as Edwards getting the nod. Come on now. And Richardson is capable of generating as much enthusiasm as a liverwurst sandwich.


89 posted on 11/27/2007 8:42:33 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: stevio

“I stand corrected.”

Well, people with “NRA” in their tagline get a free pass. ;)


90 posted on 11/27/2007 8:42:54 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: John Valentine
Per the 12th ammendment:
"But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." But does it apply to Bill?

From the 22nd ammendment:
"1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once".

Well Bill was elected twice! So Bill is inelligable for the office of President unless you say "oh, he's eligible to BE president, just not to be ELECTED president." What would the supreme court say to that argument?

91 posted on 11/27/2007 8:43:10 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: LetsRok
This is my take on it. First we have the 22nd Amendment on Term limits

1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

So what I get there is Billy cannot be elected to the presidency but could be elected Vice President and become president if Hillary vacated the office.

Then we have this from the 12th Amendment

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

On the surface the argument can be made that this means Billy is not eligible for the VP spot. However, he is not constitutionally ineligible to the office of President, he is just ineligible to be elected to that office again.

92 posted on 11/27/2007 8:43:43 AM PST by CougarGA7 (I'm supporting a Conservative not a RINO http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: LetsRok

Really?...and then they can fly his underwear from the Capitol flag pole....


93 posted on 11/27/2007 8:46:06 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: wagglebee; madeinchina; John Valentine
It becomes a somewhat gray area between the two amendments. Clearly, the INTENT is that a two term president could not be vice president; however, it never actually states that they couldn't because of the wording of the 22nd Amendment. For certain, he would not be allowed to run again if he succeeded in someone else's term.

That's my reading as well.

Clearly, the intent was as you say - no President may serve more than two terms (unless he became President very early in his predecessor's term, in which case he gets two terms and a year or two).

But according to the way the Amendment is actually written, I don't see why BJ couldn't become President again in such a circumstance as described.

Strange that such a loophole should exist - a VP being elevated to President isn't exactly an unheard-of situation.

94 posted on 11/27/2007 8:46:31 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: pepsi_junkie
What would the supreme court say to that argument?

They'd say that is exactly what the 22nd Amendment says. The language is as plain as day. It's not even a close call.

95 posted on 11/27/2007 8:46:33 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: CougarGA7

You have it right.


96 posted on 11/27/2007 8:47:55 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: SoldierDad

If this were ever attempted, I would more envision a Coup d’etat by the Pentagon to take them both out.


97 posted on 11/27/2007 8:48:07 AM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: LetsRok

If true, it appears the hildebeast is becoming concerned about her electibility and considering adding bubba to help insure a victory for her.


98 posted on 11/27/2007 8:50:16 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: LetsRok

There doesn’t seem to be a lot of “Two-for-One” talk with her as president the way there was with hisn’s.


99 posted on 11/27/2007 8:50:28 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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To: TommyDale

We could hope for that.


100 posted on 11/27/2007 8:50:34 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triagle of death)
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