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Romney, Thompson criticize Confederate flag
CNN ^ | 11-28-2007 | CNN South Carolina Producer Peter Hamby

Posted on 11/28/2007 8:28:48 PM PST by Eddie01

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) – Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee criticized the Confederate flag, which happens to be hoisted on the Statehouse grounds in the early primary state of South Carolina.

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Both candidates are front-runners in South Carolina. Both may have to answer questions about those comments next time they hit the state.

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(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: cbf; confederateflag; crossofsaintandrew; debate; dixie; gopdebates; saintandrewscross
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With such a rapid review (pre-written?) and clear mischaracterization in the descriptive "criticize", it appears the question was *designed* to hurt Mitt and Fred in the south. CNN will be sure to followup on the issue, they created.
1 posted on 11/28/2007 8:28:49 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: Eddie01

bah...what a waste of a topic. Who cares!?

The flag means many things to many people,...leave it at that.


2 posted on 11/28/2007 8:31:05 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Eddie01

By the way, I’m not insulting you, I’m just saying this isn’t a big issue...


3 posted on 11/28/2007 8:31:39 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: All

“What does the dixie flag mean to you?”

To me it means cheap-labor, open-borders, free-traitors.


4 posted on 11/28/2007 8:32:52 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: Rick_Michael

It is a big issue to the people of Tennessee!!


5 posted on 11/28/2007 8:33:04 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Eddie01

I thought they were running for President. What a State’s flag looks like is State business, and not the Federal Gobberments concern.


6 posted on 11/28/2007 8:33:13 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Eddie01
Boy this thread has ALL SORTS of potential!

It can be hijacked as a Mitt Thread.

It can be hijacked as a Fred Thread.

It can be hijacked as a Ron Paul Thread.

It can be hijacked as a South-Shall-Rise-Again Thread.

I can't WAIT to see which one comes up!

7 posted on 11/28/2007 8:33:41 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Eddie01

How did Fred criticize the American Flag?

His answer was rational and spot on.


8 posted on 11/28/2007 8:33:42 PM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: Rick_Michael
A more accurate statement may be that the flag shouldn't be a big issue. You are completely correct when you say that the flag means different things to different people. Unfortunately for the candidates, many of those people will be voting. I like both Mr. Romney and Mr. Thompson. I prefer Mr. Romney as a presidential candidate, but he will sustain the greater damage from his answer. His tone was just a bit too sanctimonious when he answered the question, and that tone will be taken as an insult. If he didn't already have problems in the South because he's from the North and supports the "assault weapons" ban, he might not have hurt himself. As it is, a few people who might have been on the fence will swing towards Mr. Thompson or Mr. Huckabee or may even swing to Mr. Giuliani.

The original poster's point is good. The whole question seems to have the flavor of a setup by CNN to cause trouble for the Republican Party.

Bill

9 posted on 11/28/2007 8:37:44 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: GregoTX

The question had no business in a presidential debate. It had a purpose.


10 posted on 11/28/2007 8:37:58 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: Coldwater Creek
It is a big issue to the people of Tennessee!!

Wrong

11 posted on 11/28/2007 8:39:02 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Eddie01
What else can you expect from CNN?

Now it's time for CNN to ask the rest of the candidates (of both parties) about the Confederte flag.

12 posted on 11/28/2007 8:39:14 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Tolerating intolerance is not a "value," it's self-destructive stupidity.)
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To: Hunterite
To me it means cheap-labor, open-borders, free-traitors.

Would you mind explaining that?

13 posted on 11/28/2007 8:41:03 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Tolerating intolerance is not a "value," it's self-destructive stupidity.)
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To: RatsDawg
His answer was rational and spot on.

True, the flag was moved from the top of capitol build a while back. He was just stating a fact.

14 posted on 11/28/2007 8:41:34 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Eddie01

Number one, they didn’t criticize the Confederate flag, they praised the American flag. The question was a CNN ploy to get a headline.

Number two, if someone does or doesn’t vote for President based on what that person said or didn’t say about the Confederate Flag...well that’s impossible for me to fathom.

Number three, the guy who asked the question was one of Paul’s supporters (somebody looked him up on youtube, the link is on the debate thread.)

And finally, people that are making a big deal of this should probably “save their Confederate dollars cause the South’s gonna rise again.”


15 posted on 11/28/2007 8:41:43 PM PST by dawn53
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To: stand watie; billbears; stainlessbanner; shuckmaster
Lookee here, fresh meat!! Buncha DAMNyankee FOOLS and SCALAWAGS!! They're out to destroy your confederate hertiage. You gotta defend your SOUTHRON honor!

Sic 'em, boys!! Sic Fred! Sic Mitt!

(Sits back and watches the Mittwitts and Fredheads destroy each other)

16 posted on 11/28/2007 8:42:33 PM PST by BillyBoy (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Reagan, he's the second coming of Stephen A. Douglas!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Now it's time for CNN to ask the rest of the candidates (of both parties) about the Confederte flag.

Unfortunately, they can't. It would be unethical. As the DNC's marketing firm, CNN has an obligation to their client to put them in the best light possible. ...which limits their debate questions to "Diamonds or Pearls?"

17 posted on 11/28/2007 8:43:55 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: dawn53

It was a cheap shot from CNN. The Conferderate battle flag has it’s place in history. That is where it should be.


18 posted on 11/28/2007 8:44:57 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress

Conferderate = Something like that


19 posted on 11/28/2007 8:46:58 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress

Good way to put it.


20 posted on 11/28/2007 8:48:16 PM PST by dawn53
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To: eyedigress
It was a cheap shot from CNN. The Conferderate battle flag has it’s place in history. That is where it should be.

Mitt was baited and did not want to hesitate, so he bit on it. He should have discounted the question as it was posed. Neither here nor there, but this candidate didn't handle it well.

21 posted on 11/28/2007 8:51:11 PM PST by Sax
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To: dawn53
Actually the Suit did criticize it and said something to the effect it shouldn't be shown anywhere. I suppose he wouldn't be welcome at my house as the only flag in front of my house is the Stars and Bars. Number two, I won't vote for a candidate if they come out against the flag of my ancestors (even though the gentleman did not have the Stars and Bars on his wall as Anderson stated). Indifferent is one thing. Negativity to a symbol of which I am proud another. Three, it matters who he supports? There is a deeper underlying meaning to that flag and that is a recognition of the First Republic (although I realize many Republicans don't much care for a nation of separate and sovereign states as evidenced by the socon desire to legislate morality at the national level)
22 posted on 11/28/2007 8:55:53 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: BillyBoy

LOL ! And you think Tommy Thompson should be Prez ?

Now that is funny !


23 posted on 11/28/2007 8:58:51 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Unite against Rudy ! - Vote Thompson ! - It's the only way to beat Hillary !)
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To: Eddie01

I am amazed that Republicans allow themselves to debate in a socialist venue that a company like CNN puts on. My god, aren’t there any other options?


24 posted on 11/28/2007 9:00:46 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Eddie01

I thought civil war was over. Why is the confederate flag an issue any more? It is old history and irrelevent to modern era.


25 posted on 11/28/2007 9:01:06 PM PST by al_bore_jr
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To: TheLion

No doubt .
The Dims are cowards for not going on Fox to debate , and the Republicans are cowards for not being able to unify and say NO to these Leftist / MSM set-up debates .


26 posted on 11/28/2007 9:05:10 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Unite against Rudy ! - Vote Thompson ! - It's the only way to beat Hillary !)
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To: Rick_Michael
bah...what a waste of a topic. Who cares!?

The South!!!! Go figure.

The flag means many things to many people,...leave it at that.

To bad Romney did not and had to comment, his loss. What did Thompson say or is that a media lie?? I can't imagine a guy from Tennessee being that stupid....ever!

27 posted on 11/28/2007 9:06:41 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Neu Pragmatist

Dims are cowards for not going to Fox, yet the Republicans cower and go to CNN....someone needs to get some brain cells.


28 posted on 11/28/2007 9:08:29 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Eddie01

Romney: Right now, with the kinds of issues we got in this country, I’m not going to get involved with a flag like that. That’s not a flag that I recognize so that I would hold up in my room.

The people of our country have decided not to fly that flag. I think that’s the right thing.

(Applause)

My own view is that this country can go beyond that kind of stuff, and that instead we can do as a party what we need to do, which is to reach out to all Americans.

Every time I listen to someone like John Edwards get on TV and say there are two Americans, I just want to — I just want to throw something at the TV, because there are not two Americas. There’s one America.

We are a nation united. We face extraordinary challenges right now. And Democrats dividing us and tearing down this country are doing exactly the wrong thing.

We’re succeeding in Iraq. We’ve got tough challenges. We can overcome them. But we do not need to have that kind of divisive talk. And that flag, frankly, is divisive, and it shouldn’t be shown.

Cooper: Governor Thompson? Excuse me, Senator Thompson? Maybe one day.

Thompson: I know that everybody who hangs the flag up in their room like that is not racist. I also know that for a great many Americans it’s a symbol of racism.

So, therefore, as a public place — he’s free to do whatever he wants to in his home. As far as a public place is concerned, I am glad that people have made the decision not to display it as a prominent flag, symbolic of something, at a state capitol. As a part of a group of flags or something of that nature, you know, honoring various servicepeople at different times in different parts of the country, I think that’s different.

But, as a nation, we don’t need to go out of our way to be bringing up things that to certain people in our country that’s bad for them.


29 posted on 11/28/2007 9:09:25 PM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his Lacking Decisive Stands.)
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To: billbears
Much of your post I agree. I don't remember any Flag in history raising such a discussion. It is PC run-amok that wants apology for family's that believe in State's Rights. That Flag represents how a campaign of media lies changes history. I have 4 papers of the NY Times circa '62, '63 and the reporting is straight up. The history of our Country is vibrant and controversial. I was flamed tonite for defending the display of the flag.
30 posted on 11/28/2007 9:09:34 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: RatsDawg

I agree. Fred’s answer was good.


31 posted on 11/28/2007 9:11:47 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: TheLion

Did the Huckster touch on this? I’m not a single issue voter, and I still lean towards Fred, but I could swallow my pride on a number of issues I disagree with the man from hope on if he solidly defended the flag of my ancestors...


32 posted on 11/28/2007 9:12:05 PM PST by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: TheLion

The Republicans are idiots or masochists for repeatedly going to these inane and abusive debates .


33 posted on 11/28/2007 9:14:59 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Unite against Rudy ! - Vote Thompson ! - It's the only way to beat Hillary !)
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To: Schwaeky

You must have confused my response with someone else.


34 posted on 11/28/2007 9:14:59 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Old Sarge

At least it can’t be hijacked as a Anna Nicole Smith thread...oh wait. darn, I did it again.


35 posted on 11/28/2007 9:25:12 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: billbears
The guy who asked the question had both the battle flag and the stars and bars on his wall.

I thought Fred's answer was OK, but Mitt's was insulting to anyone with Confederate ancestors.

36 posted on 11/28/2007 9:28:49 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Mitt Flopper never misses a chance to distance himself from controversial issues .


37 posted on 11/28/2007 9:33:14 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Unite against Rudy ! - Vote Thompson ! - It's the only way to beat Hillary !)
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To: al_bore_jr

Let me preface this by saying that I’m a Yankee originally from Chicago. But here is my take.

Every group - Southerners included - should get to determine FOR THEMSELVES what symbols they choose to honor as part of their heritage. If some feel that confederate flag does that for them, they’re perfectly entitled to fly that flag.

Why is this even controversial? Especially among conservatives?

Hank


38 posted on 11/28/2007 9:35:10 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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To: Neu Pragmatist

The RNC ought to be put on suicide watch. Maybe not.


39 posted on 11/28/2007 9:35:20 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Elect Hussein Obama for President, give a kid a whack at it.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
You're looking like your health is with you! :^)


40 posted on 11/28/2007 9:38:59 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: jwh_Denver

They sure seem hellbent on taking the abuse .

The MSM must be in a perpetual state of gleeful dismay at how easy it is to bait the Republicans into self destruction .

Unreal ...


41 posted on 11/28/2007 9:40:26 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Unite against Rudy ! - Vote Thompson ! - It's the only way to beat Hillary !)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Not East Tennessee, lol.

Knoxville cheered when General Burnside marched into town, iirc.


42 posted on 11/28/2007 9:41:29 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: eyedigress

Thanks! I don’t have a cast pic....stole it....hope you don’t mind! ;-)

Hank


43 posted on 11/28/2007 9:43:29 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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To: Eddie01

Out of that entire debate, THIS is the most substantive story they could throw out even before they finished sweeping the stage?

It was one of the most stupid questions asked but they are trying to use it to drive a wedge between the candidates who got stuck with it and the southern states. Lame. Very Lame.


44 posted on 11/28/2007 9:44:07 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - President Fred D. Thompson /"The Constitution means what is says.")
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To: Lady Heron

If a person can’t see why it’s offensive, just like a person can’t see why it’s symbol of culture/pride...then they’re awfully one-sided.

I for one don’t care, because it’s not a pertinent issue to the nation. It’s a local issue and should be dealt with in that manner.


45 posted on 11/28/2007 9:46:33 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Eddie01
Funny, how Anderson winced when it was mentioned that their focus group criticized CNN for not asking important questions about Iran, etc., etc.

It was more important in the CNN mindset, to bring up the Confederate flag, punishment for abortion, gays in the military, etc., etc.

46 posted on 11/28/2007 9:47:04 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: Hunterite
That has to be stupidest post I have ever seen
47 posted on 11/28/2007 9:47:52 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Mark Levin for U.S. Senate 08! Someone has to fill the shoes of Joe McCarthy , Levin is that man)
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To: dawn53

“And finally, people that are making a big deal of this should probably “save their Confederate dollars cause the South’s gonna rise again.””

lmao.


48 posted on 11/28/2007 9:47:58 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

It’s pretty-odd, to say the least. He confused the confederate flag with the mexican flag!?....I don’t know what happened there....


49 posted on 11/28/2007 9:56:18 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: WFTR

“Mr. Romney as a presidential candidate, but he will sustain the greater damage from his answer.”

Romney had many bad answer that night. I personally would have said,

“This isn’t a national issue. I can see how this flag would both make someone feel good about their culture (or place in this world), and represent an era in time that America shouldn’t be proud of. Both have their points, but at this point in time, it’s not an issue that need national attention...and should be resolved at the local level.”

That’s it...I wouldn’t have pronounced any moral feelings. I don’t have any personal connection to it, but I could understand why both sides feel their feelings. Right or wrong.


50 posted on 11/28/2007 9:59:53 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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