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To: Zakeet
Hmmm. I haven’t heard of any homo related scandals involving Episcopalians, yet they allow homo priests.

OTH, the Catholic church does not promote homosexuality but has an ongoing problem with homo priests.

This is above my paygrade.

3 posted on 12/08/2007 4:14:44 PM PST by Jacquerie (Constitutional Law is too important to be left to lawyers.)
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To: Jacquerie
Read this to clear up any confusion.
7 posted on 12/08/2007 4:21:08 PM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: Jacquerie
You have been misled by the media. What a surprise!

Think a minute. WHY would the liberal media want to attack the Episcopalians, who support every single liberal cause you ever heard of, including 'gay rights', New Age paganism, the UN, 'peace activism', etc. etc.?

On the other hand, WHY would the liberal media NOT want to attack the Catholic Church? It is the last large organized body opposing the homosexual agenda, abortion, lib/rad feminism, and other causes dear to the liberals' hearts.

There's your motive.

Here are the facts:

1. The Catholic problem is mostly in the past. The overwhelming majority of the incidents took place in the 60s and 70s, fewer in the 80s, almost none in the 90s and beyond. The Vatican (which has traditionally been reluctant to interfere within a bishop's jurisdiction, especially in the U.S.) got involved directly -- the worst offending bishops (with the exception of a couple who are well entrenched and are going to be difficult to dislodge) were removed or kicked upstairs. Most bishops also cleaned house -- there were two offenders in this diocese in the late 70s, and the diocese lowered the boom on them both. One was sent to a remote monastery where he died of a heart attack, one went to prison and was laicized. The Church is taking this very seriously - the problem is not "ongoing" as you state.

2. I used to be an Episcopalian, and I can tell you there is a serious problem with homosexual priests hitting on parishioners, especially underage ones. BOTH male and female. There have been some big insurance payouts.

But you will never hear a whisper from the liberal newsies about the actually ongoing problem in the Episcopal Church, while the Catholics have done a pretty thorough housecleaning and have called in an outside investigation firm to audit their efforts.

18 posted on 12/08/2007 4:37:18 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Jacquerie

There have been plenty of homo scandals and pedophilia in the Episcopal Church. It just hasn’t gotten the press of the Catholic Church, partly because TEC has moved more aggressively against these problems to limit their financial liabilities. I think there was just recently a scandal involving a priest in the Albany, N.Y. area, for example. The Bishop of Pennsylvania knew his brother, a priest, was a pedophile and never did anything about it. He was just removed from his office.


30 posted on 12/08/2007 5:26:09 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Jacquerie

Also, except for the occaisional woman seducing a young boy, you don’t hear anything about teachers seducing children. It happens all the time. I would be willing to be there are far more teachers hitting on children than ever happened in the Catholic hierarchy.

If fact, I remember when I was in high school one of the male teachers was “encouraged to retire early”.


50 posted on 12/08/2007 6:47:21 PM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Jacquerie

Homos are a biological monstrosity and problem anywhere they go.

If they stayed locked up in the closet, everyting would be fine. But they seek not mere tolerance, but ENDORSEMENT and the right to proselytize their filthy, perverted lifestyle.

The only real solution is to stop tolerating them.


70 posted on 12/08/2007 9:47:04 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Jacquerie
This is above my paygrade.

Is it? Or were the California Catholics just further along in their degradation.

79 posted on 12/09/2007 12:40:45 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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