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Folk Ways (Fred in South Carolina)
The Washington Post ^ | December 12, 2007 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 12/11/2007 8:17:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Tell us, Fred Thompson, about your national security policy.

"The good guys win and the bad guys lose -- how 'bout that?"

Profound. And your economic policy?

"Free people, free markets, doin' free things together."

Well said. Do you worry that tax cuts might cause lost revenue?

"It ain't lost, it's in my pocket."

As for how he came to hold certain views on health care, he has this answer for his audience in Anderson, S.C.: "I had a conversation with my little mama back in Franklin, Tennessee."

His 87-year-old mother's advice also persuades him to reject the new National Intelligence Estimate reporting that Iran has suspended its nuclear program. "Remember whatcha mama told ya," the former senator from Tennessee recommends. "If somethin' appears to be too good to be true, it probably is."

Is it possible to be too folksy? Thompson seems determined to find out. The big man with all those Hollywood roles is trying to slow-drawl his way to the GOP nomination. To the extent that Thompson has a pitch, it's that he doesn't change his views like, say, Mitt Romney or Rudy Giuliani. "Where I stand does not depend on where I'm standing or what political office I happen to be running for," he asserts.

Mostly, though, he's recommending himself to voters as a good ol' boy.

"Y'all know where a man can get a decent meal in this town?" he asks the crowd at Mama Penn's Real Southern Cooking, next door to the "$5 Christian Bookstore" and a few blocks from the Baptist church with the drive-through Nativity scene. "I'm a Tennessee boy. I consider this my neck of the woods and I hope South Carolinians think this is my neck of the woods, too." The last part he pronounces "mah neck-uh-da woods."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: conservatives; election; electionpresident; elections; fred; fredthompson; gop; iran; iraq; mittromney; republicans; rudygiuliani; sc2008; solidsouth; southernstrategy; thompson
The drive-by media just doesn't get Fred.
1 posted on 12/11/2007 8:17:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Elitest just don’t get real folk.


2 posted on 12/11/2007 8:19:33 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

True. But, we need more of this though, so his message starts to get out. The general public will “get it”.


3 posted on 12/11/2007 8:23:02 PM PST by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I see Dana Milbank on anything, I just drive on by.


4 posted on 12/11/2007 8:31:14 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Boy, Milbank is just dripping with contempt for flyover country!

My husband amuses himself baiting people like that, seeing how many impossibilities he can get them to believe.

5 posted on 12/11/2007 8:31:52 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I’m a Tennessee boy. I consider this my neck of the woods and I hope South Carolinians think this is my neck of the woods, too.” The last part he pronounces “mah neck-uh-da woods.”

I assume they are trying to imply that Fred is some sort of fake.

Fred is as real as it gets. Its about time someone has the guts to speak his mind with the American people.

Fred has not yet said. I ain’t no ways tired. Hillary’s honest dialouge.


6 posted on 12/11/2007 8:32:49 PM PST by cquiggy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The drive-by media just doesn’t get Fred.”

Or maybe they do, but it irritates them that his folksy style is appealing when he gets to show it.


7 posted on 12/11/2007 8:35:59 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And how does Dana Milbank pronounce it?


9 posted on 12/11/2007 8:37:22 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m really liking Fred more and more everyday. Elites just can’t comprehend the country way. Simple fact is that country folk can be much wiser to the world than they will ever be given credit for, but the elites are so convinced that you must be stupid if you’re country that they will never even take the time to listen. Anyone who doesn’t try to impress me with their ability to mealy-mouth a subject gets my attention every time.


11 posted on 12/11/2007 8:38:21 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fred has some good enemies. Wadaya say we keep-um?


12 posted on 12/11/2007 8:47:19 PM PST by HoustonTech (Fred Tax Calculator: http://gil.yoder.home.comcast.net/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A southerner talking with a southerner accent?...Duh..
13 posted on 12/11/2007 8:48:35 PM PST by Fred (The Demoroid Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Boy, Milbank is just dripping with contempt for flyover country!

Well, of course he is! He's a highly educated, sophisticated Washingtonian who's been to all kinds of fancy places you and I can't even pronounce, much less imagine. He's just ever so much smarter than people who speak with a Southern accent and listen their mamas. Don't you know that? /s

14 posted on 12/11/2007 8:49:59 PM PST by Fairview (Taxes? I paid those -last- year!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The first question on national security was answered almost exactly the same way that Ronald Reagan answered it-—when he said, “We win, they lose” (to that same question posed by Richard Allen).


15 posted on 12/11/2007 8:51:06 PM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are so very affraid of him....why won’t they engage him on substance? He has written plans and statements on most all of the major issues but they play these games...why do you think that’s true?


16 posted on 12/11/2007 8:51:29 PM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: Bobbisox

ping


17 posted on 12/11/2007 8:51:38 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: TonyRo76
I bet Milbanks gets all giddy and blushes when he hears this:

Kentucky Fried Hillary
18 posted on 12/11/2007 8:53:28 PM PST by Fred (The Demoroid Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: Cicero

I imagine with a sneering nasal twang


19 posted on 12/11/2007 9:46:00 PM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Uriah_lost

Wonder why Milbank hasn’t ask him who the new leader of Australia is? He seems to be as contemptous of Thompson as he was/is of Bush.


20 posted on 12/11/2007 10:04:04 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Washington Post will never like Fred. He just talks too unsophisticated for them. Never mind what he’s saying, they just don’t like the way he says it.


21 posted on 12/11/2007 10:28:24 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; girlangler; KoRn; Shortstop7; Lunatic Fringe; Darnright; babygene; pitbully; ...
Hey, Dana, did you write your snarkly little drivel when John Kerry went hunting in 2004 and asked, “Can I get me a huntin’ license here?”

Ping

22 posted on 12/11/2007 10:36:21 PM PST by jellybean (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=dailyfread Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They, the MSM, don't have to "get" Fred. It is refreshing, even in their attempt to "hay seed" him they are reporting it. The readers, the "real folk" will get Fred.

Fred Dalton Thompson is more than likely the "last great hope" for this Republic of "the folk" and "by the folk".

23 posted on 12/11/2007 10:52:41 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: cquiggy
Are they certain he said, "mah neck-uh-da woods"???

We say it "mah neck-uh-thuh woods" here, but, of course, I "got mah raisin'" a bit south of TN. ; )

24 posted on 12/11/2007 10:53:28 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope they get him soon....though this could go to the convention


25 posted on 12/11/2007 10:54:50 PM PST by wardaddy (subservient well trained former shrew tamer for Thompson...but worried....very)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Holy heck, is this what they are resorting to now? What about the accents on Edwards and Bill Clinton? And what about the twangy lisp of Algore? I guess no one twalks funny in New Yawk.


26 posted on 12/11/2007 10:55:31 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

btw....none of the media really get conservatism.....Fox’s news team doesn’t...they’ve proved it over immigration and now Fred.

The rest of the media doesn’t even care.

WSJ is milquetoast conservatism.

Really only Liddy, Rush, Savage is his way over the top way, Michael Reagan and a handful of others really understand where conservatism should be...I mean listen to George Will these days....he sounds like a Democrat


27 posted on 12/11/2007 10:57:31 PM PST by wardaddy (subservient well trained former shrew tamer for Thompson...but worried....very)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

28 posted on 12/11/2007 10:58:05 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Allegra; Eaker; AnnaZ; Brucifer; Squantos; TheMom; Politicalmom


Don't know about you folks, but Fred is looking better and better as this schlockfest continues!

Thompson/Poe'08!
29 posted on 12/11/2007 11:06:33 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet Dana didn’t get snarky when Hillary belted out “I ain’t noways tiiiired...” Nope, that was high culture to Millbank. Sheesh.


30 posted on 12/12/2007 12:02:26 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (An independent Freeper, not paid by any political campaign.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dana Milbank is a poor choice to make judgments on a Fred Thompson.
31 posted on 12/12/2007 1:07:31 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Fairview

Since my heroes are Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee, and JEB Stuart, I am quite comfortable with Southerns. In fact, I prefer them.


32 posted on 12/12/2007 1:18:04 AM PST by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh they get him alright and it makes them wet their pants.


33 posted on 12/12/2007 3:30:38 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why Fred is not the front runner is beyond me.

The GOP has lost its mind.

34 posted on 12/12/2007 3:44:27 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Indeed


35 posted on 12/12/2007 3:58:31 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: cquiggy
“I’m a Tennessee boy. I consider this my neck of the woods and I hope South Carolinians think this is my neck of the woods, too.” The last part he pronounces “mah neck-uh-da woods.”

Tennesee Boy BUMP!

36 posted on 12/12/2007 4:02:15 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: carton253
Since my heroes are Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee, and JEB Stuart, I am quite comfortable with Southerns. In fact, I prefer them.

Same heroes and same preferences. Though I doubt our Virginians of the nineteenth century talked like a Tennessee boy of the twentieth.

37 posted on 12/12/2007 4:36:18 AM PST by Fairview (Taxes? I paid those -last- year!)
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To: carton253
Since my heroes are Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee, and JEB Stuart, I am quite comfortable with Southerns. In fact, I prefer them.

Same heroes and same preferences. Though I doubt our Virginians of the nineteenth century talked like a Tennessee boy of the twentieth.

38 posted on 12/12/2007 4:36:29 AM PST by Fairview (Taxes? I paid those -last- year!)
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To: Fairview

No they did not... LOL!


39 posted on 12/12/2007 4:51:00 AM PST by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: Fairview
Unfortunately, the Civil War occurred before Edison developed the phonograph in 1877. It was not until the 1890s that mass production began. By that time, Lincoln, Grant, Sherman, Davis, Jackson, and Lee were all dead. I have heard a short recording attributed to the poet Walt Whitman, a native of Long Island, around 1890. His speech patterns were similar to those of the Archie Bunker character in the 1970s show, All in the Family. Probably an older person in an area near Arlington or Alexandria, Virginia, that has not become Yankeefied like the Northern Neck would come close to Robert E. Lee's speech patterns. Stonewall Jackson's old West Virginia hometowns are largely populated by descendants of the people who were there during his childhood. Replicating his speech patterns would not be hard.
40 posted on 12/12/2007 6:55:54 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fred’s the real deal. I suppose that’s a bit mystifying to some.
43 posted on 12/12/2007 7:40:56 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: LadyNavyVet
I still get a good chuckle out of that Hilleryism!!!
Fred....I consider Iowa a part of your neck-o-the-woods as well.
44 posted on 12/12/2007 7:49:26 AM PST by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hey! Washington Post! Ya got a problem with mah neck uh da woods?

What cracks me up about northern elistist is how at least 80% of their senior citizen population can't get to the south fast enough come winter time! lol

There are two kinds of snowbirds...the kind who can't stop telling us how 'charming' our accents and hospitality are. The other kind can't stop telling us how much better they do things up nawrth. I tell the latter that the roads operate both ways and they are free to leave.(but, I dew declare...they nevah dew!)

45 posted on 12/12/2007 8:20:01 AM PST by sweet_diane (Adoption, the beautiful alternative.)
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To: Wallace T.

Wallace, I was privileged to be close to an elderly cousin of mine, who was born in 1903 and lived to be 97 (and was mentally clear as a bell and tough as nails to the very end). She was an educated lady who came from a good family in Virginia; if you are at all a student of the War you would recognize the family name instantly. She had been raised by her grandfather, who was a captain in the Eighth Virginia and survived Pickett’s Charge. Listening to her and to her older brother, I got a clear sense of the way people in NVA talked 150 years ago. It’s not very different at all from the way my surviving kin and I talk today. It’s not the rich Magnolia Mouth accent those from the Deep South have, though; more a question of rhythmicity, pacing, and a few different pronunciations.


46 posted on 12/12/2007 9:37:54 AM PST by Fairview (Taxes? I paid those -last- year!)
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To: Fairview
The Southern language is varied, but it is more distinct from the speech of the Greater North than the latter is from Canadian English. It is easier to distinguish between a Michigander and a Southerner than a Michigander and a Canadian. If language were the standard of nationality, the South deserves independence more than Canada!

Actors vary widely in their ability to mimic accents, and generally speaking, British, Irish, and Australian actors do far better jobs at getting the nuances of American speech right than native born Americans do when they try to sound like people from other U.S. regions. In "Cold Mountain", the least Southern accent was that of Renee Zellweger, a native of suburban Houston but a first generation American. In "Gangs of New York", Daniel Day Lewis, a Brit, did a far more convincing New York accent than Leonardo DiCaprio or Cameron Diaz did with their Irish accents.

47 posted on 12/12/2007 12:28:16 PM PST by Wallace T.
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