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Unfettered 'citizen journalism' too risky (Dinosaur Media DeathWatch™)
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | December 13, 2007 | David Hazinski

Posted on 12/13/2007 1:21:17 PM PST by abb

You're beginning to get a lot more news ... from you.

It ranges from the CNN YouTube debates to political blogs to cellphone video of that sniper who opened fire at an Omaha Mall. These are all examples of so called "citizen journalism," the hot new extension of the news business where the audience becomes the reporter.

Supporters of "citizen journalism" argue it provides independent, accurate, reliable information that the traditional media don't provide. While it has its place, the reality is it really isn't journalism at all, and it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse. The news industry should find some way to monitor and regulate this new trend.

The premise of citizen journalism is that regular people can now collect information and pictures with video cameras and cellphones, and distribute words and images over the Internet. Advocates argue that the acts of collecting and distributing makes these people "journalists." This is like saying someone who carries a scalpel is a "citizen surgeon" or someone who can read a law book is a "citizen lawyer." Tools are merely that. Education, skill and standards are really what make people into trusted professionals. Information without journalistic standards is called gossip.

But unlike those other professions, journalism — at least in the United States — has never adopted uniform self-regulating standards. There are commonly accepted ethical principals — two source confirmation of controversial information or the balanced reporting of both sides of a story, for example, but adhering to the principals is voluntary. There is no licensing, testing, mandatory education or boards of review. Most other professions do a poor job of self-regulation, but at least they have mechanisms to regulate themselves. Journalists do not.

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Barf Alert.
1 posted on 12/13/2007 1:21:18 PM PST by abb
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To: 04-Bravo; aimhigh; andyandval; Arizona Carolyn; backhoe; Bahbah; bert; bilhosty; Caipirabob; ...

ping


2 posted on 12/13/2007 1:22:11 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

“While it has its place, the reality is it really isn’t journalism at all, and it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse.”

Wow, talk about irony.


3 posted on 12/13/2007 1:23:09 PM PST by Slapshot68
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To: abb

“While it has its place, the reality is it really isn’t journalism at all, and it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse.”

Wow, talk about irony.


4 posted on 12/13/2007 1:24:09 PM PST by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68

This from an NBC guy, no less. The network that planted a bomb in a pickup truck and blew it up to show that the gas tanks were unsafe. LOL!!


5 posted on 12/13/2007 1:25:41 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Slapshot68

And who was it that falsely accused Richard Jewell of murder in the Atlanta bombings, destroying his life and sending him to an early grave?


6 posted on 12/13/2007 1:26:47 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: abb
“While it has its place, the reality is it really isn’t journalism at all, and it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse.”

Yeah, Dan Rather sure found out about that, didn't he? Those darned citizen journalists just can't be trusted.

7 posted on 12/13/2007 1:28:02 PM PST by Bob
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To: abb

LOL

I guess “tell the truth” (which anyone can do without standards or training) is just too simple a concept for “journalists.”

jw


8 posted on 12/13/2007 1:30:19 PM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: abb

This is the funniest article I’ve read in a long time.


9 posted on 12/13/2007 1:30:28 PM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: abb
it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse. Absolutely correct.

The irony is that the author apparently doesn't recognize that most Americans are convinced the MSM is already loaded with fraud and abuse. There's gotta be a reason "journalists" are among the very least respected professionals.

10 posted on 12/13/2007 1:35:20 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Slapshot68
or someone who can read a law book is a "citizen lawyer."

Hmm... I've been involved in 5 civil litigation procedures in two countries (all as plaintiff) and won them all - without a lawyer.

I guess I shouldn't be allowed to do that...(and no, I've never studied law... just read a few "law books")

11 posted on 12/13/2007 1:35:26 PM PST by Philistone (If someone tells you it's for the children, he believes that YOU are a child.)
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To: abb
it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse.

From the folks who participated in the framing of Richard Jewell.

12 posted on 12/13/2007 1:36:05 PM PST by PAR35
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To: abb

What a snob! (the “author,” not you, abb)


13 posted on 12/13/2007 1:38:08 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: abb
"There are commonly accepted ethical principals — two source confirmation of controversial information or the balanced reporting of both sides of a story, for example, but adhering to the principals is voluntary. There is no licensing, testing, mandatory education or boards of review. Most other professions do a poor job of self-regulation, but at least they have mechanisms to regulate themselves. Journalists do not."

1. "two source confirmation." Fine - establish that standard and stick to it. Otherwise STFU!

2. "There is no licensing, testing, mandatory education or boards of review." Then STFU!

3. "Most other professions do a poor job of self-regulation, but at least they have mechanisms to regulate themselves. Journalists do not."

Then STFU!

14 posted on 12/13/2007 1:39:00 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: abb
Barf Alert.

Actually, it's a Laugh Riot.

15 posted on 12/13/2007 1:41:16 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: abb
So, first he says this,

"The news industry should find some way to monitor and regulate this new trend."

Then he says this,

"But unlike those other professions, journalism — at least in the United States — has never adopted uniform self-regulating standards"

So, an industry that has never effectively regulated itself should somehow reach out and regulate the activities of free citizens.

Utterly clueless

16 posted on 12/13/2007 1:41:56 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: abb
There are commonly accepted ethical principals

I think they mean "principles" here. Do they no longer teach correct English usage in J-School?

balanced reporting of both sides of a story

LOL.

Die, Big Media, die.

17 posted on 12/13/2007 1:42:20 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Mr. Lucky

>>Journalism schools such as mine ... should create mini-courses to certify citizen journalists in proper ethics and procedures<<

Ha. Seems the only MSM qualification presently necessary is the ability to swallow a load of left wing krap and then to glibly barf it up onto a keyboard.


18 posted on 12/13/2007 1:45:17 PM PST by QBFimi ("When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen." - Jacobson)
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To: abb
While it has its place, the reality is it really isn't journalism at all, and it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse. The news industry should find some way to monitor and regulate this new trend.

Yeah, that worked really well in the MSM's coverage of the Israel/Hezbollah war.


19 posted on 12/13/2007 1:45:31 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: QBFimi

“Certified Journalist”
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 12/13/2007 1:47:13 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb
"Supporters of "citizen journalism" argue it provides independent, accurate, reliable information that the traditional media don't provide. While it has its place, the reality is it really isn't journalism at all, and it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse."

The author is obviously a high-class maroon. Someone ought to remind him of all the incidents of "fabricated news" that have come from "journalists"--up to and including "Rathergate".

21 posted on 12/13/2007 1:47:16 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: abb
There are commonly accepted ethical principals — two source confirmation of controversial information or the balanced reporting of both sides of a story, for example, but adhering to the principals is voluntary.

Somehow that voluntary standard disappears when there is a chance to damage a political opponent of the journalist.

Sorry, any press report should be taken with the same grain of salt as something told to you by someone at a bar. It is up to you to determine whether the source is a professional in the field, or the drunk who is always muttering about the satellite mind control beams that President Kerry is firing at him.

Journalism schools such as mine at the University of Georgia should create mini-courses to certify citizen journalists in proper ethics and procedures, much as volunteer teachers, paramedics and sheriff's auxiliaries are trained and certified.

Remember, Constitutional rights must be limited by the government certification. You have a free press, but only the party in power determines whether you are actually the "press" or just a crackpot with a laser printer who must be arrested for saying something unpopular.

22 posted on 12/13/2007 1:47:38 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Government is the hired help - not the boss. When politicians forget that they must be fired.)
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To: abb
"...two source confirmation of controversial information or the balanced reporting of both sides of a story, for example,...


If the main stream media actually did this, there would not be any need for the public to step in and do the job they are not doing.

The fact is, everyone now knows that the main stream media can not be trusted to be honest, fair, or unbias.

The American people have "fired" them the only way they know how. They have done this by no longer watching the evening news, or by buying newspapers.

Further, they now take stories and put them on internet sites such as FreeRepublic where they can be discussed and different voices can be heard.

My mind is not made up on everything, and I have been known to change my mind if the right argument is presented. For the main stream media, there is only one point of view, and if you do not share it then there is something wrong with you.

That is not the way to win arguments or to convince others your point of view is the correct one.

There will always be a need for an organization to "gather" news, only now it is no longer a one way street.

There is now an opportunity for someone to provide raw news, that is nothing but the facts without any editorial comments within the stories. Unfortunately for the management of main stream media they think they are already doing that and can not understand why no one wants their product anymore.

23 posted on 12/13/2007 1:48:18 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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24 posted on 12/13/2007 1:52:42 PM PST by The Louiswu (Never Forget!)
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To: abb
Yep.

Unfettered "citizen journalism" messes up the unfettered "left wing partisan journalism".

25 posted on 12/13/2007 1:56:12 PM PST by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: JWinNC

The advent of cell phones, cell phones with cameras, and digital technology makes it possible for citizens to give on the scene accounts and rapidly upload unfiltered images, thus bypassing traditional news gathering organizations. This really steams them! And by the time they DO get around to getting it reported, it is stale and events have moved beyond the incident.


26 posted on 12/13/2007 1:56:21 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: abb
Supporters of "citizen journalism" argue it provides independent, accurate, reliable information that the traditional media don't provide. While it has its place, the reality is it really isn't journalism at all, and it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse.

ROFL!! Yeah, like there isn't any fraud or abuse in professional journalism. (*coff* Dateline:NBC's pyrotechnics *coff* Dan Rather's memos *coff*).

27 posted on 12/13/2007 1:56:54 PM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

I had to check it for satire.


28 posted on 12/13/2007 1:58:21 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: abb
fraud and abuse!!

???

This article is a joke.

How about this for fraud and abuse?


29 posted on 12/13/2007 2:12:09 PM PST by andyandval
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To: abb
Education, skill and standards are really what make people into trusted professionals. Information without journalistic standards is called gossip.

Wow, that's a loaded sentence.

30 posted on 12/13/2007 2:15:30 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: andyandval
How about this for fraud and abuse?

Or this:


31 posted on 12/13/2007 2:17:15 PM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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that sniper who opened fire at an Omaha Mall

So he's a sniper now? Silly journalist
32 posted on 12/13/2007 2:20:58 PM PST by hemogoblin (Islam -- it's all the rage)
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To: Slapshot68

My thoughts, exactly.


34 posted on 12/13/2007 2:25:16 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: abb

Scrappleface, right? Hmmm.... Nope. It’s indeed a caricature that paints itself.


35 posted on 12/13/2007 2:26:59 PM PST by Chaguito
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To: abb
David Hazinski
Associate Professor
Office: 139
Phone Number: (706) 542-4976
Fax Number: (706) 542-2183
E-Mail Address: hazinski@grady.uga.edu
36 posted on 12/13/2007 2:29:33 PM PST by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: abb
The news industry should find some way to monitor and regulate this new trend.

Uh-huh. The guy would be horrified at the thought of the GM board being in charge of the regulation of the auto industry or Exxon writing environmental standards for the oil industry but journalists can be trusted to monitor and regulate their industry?

It'd be sweet for them, I'll grant that. The New Republic would never have been caught, Dan Rather would be celebrated as a hero "speaking truth to power" and Jason Blair would still be writing for the NY Times. For a picture of what that world would be like just recall what it used to look like - I.F. Stone and Walter Duranty.

Let's speak frankly here - journalism is, at the moment, one of the most corrupt, shameless, manipulative, arrogant, out of control, celebrity-choked travesties in any industry anywhere. I would no more trust its luminaries to guard my flow of information than I would trust Oprah to guard my Twinkie stash. Some things are too stupid to even consider.

37 posted on 12/13/2007 2:29:55 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: abb
... and it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse...

Rathergate, Bilal Hussein, "Pally"wood, Lebanon, Beauchamp at TNR, Glass at TNR, fake Pulitzer at the Post, all the way back to "I have seen the future, and it works!", etc., etc.

Thanks, I haven't laughed so hard for long a time.

Nothing opens up the possibility of fraud and abuse so much as a monopoly on news by a herd of uneducated, group-think leftists.

38 posted on 12/13/2007 2:30:02 PM PST by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: abb
“Journalism schools such as mine at the University of Georgia should create mini-courses to certify citizen journalists in proper ethics and procedures...”

Read: “Only WE are qualified to tell you what you should believe.”

39 posted on 12/13/2007 2:33:54 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: abb; Vom Willemstad K-9; Clemenza; rmlew; firebrand; PARodrig

What a pompous self important elitist jerk. He and all of us would be better off if he would just STFU.


40 posted on 12/13/2007 2:38:10 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Billthedrill

Well said.


41 posted on 12/13/2007 2:40:03 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: abb
While it has its place, the reality is it really isn't journalism at all,

Unless it comes from some corporate monolith, it isn't "journalism?"

and it opens up information flow to the strong probability of fraud and abuse.

Yeah, because those are unheard of in the news factories. I submit Peoples' Exhibit A through Z: Dan Rather, Steven Glass, Janet Cooke, ...

The news industry should find some way to monitor and regulate this new trend.

Just like it monitors and regulates the existing news biz? You media clowns would be howling in apoplectic rage if anyone suggested we muzzle YOU.

42 posted on 12/13/2007 2:45:30 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: abb

Once upon a time, journalism WAS an honorable profession, especially as practiced at highly reputable newspapers like the Atlanta Constitution and (believe it or not) the New York Times. Then there were the great reporters on the television networks, as exemplified by Edward R Murrow.

However, more recently, all too many journalists have become globalist shills, salacious tabloid guttersnipes, and apologists for feminazis, gaysbians, islamists, muticulturalists, illegal immigrants, and other darlings of the postmodern Left. Then there are the out-and-out LIARS, like Christianne Amanpour and Samantha Power. Power has taken things one step further, and now poses as a Harvard professor, rather than a mere journalist!!!! And the New York Times has become the New World Order Times—”all the news we fit to print.”

“Citizen journalism” is a much needed corrective to the fallen state of contemporary “professional” journalism. The Edward R Murrows of the 2000s and 2010s will probably emerge from the ranks of bloggers and other “citizen journalists”!!


43 posted on 12/13/2007 2:45:40 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: abb
The news industry should find some way to monitor and regulate this new trend.

"How many divisions does this news industry have?"

Freaking "live and let die" liberals. Anything they don't like must be regulated out of existence. Fascist control freaks.

44 posted on 12/13/2007 2:46:56 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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The news industry should find some way to monitor and regulate this new trend.

I think it's being monitored already, Junior.

Now go forth and regulate the trend.

Freakin' teenager is delusional.

45 posted on 12/13/2007 2:48:10 PM PST by andyandval
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To: abb

The media is being flushed and they can’t stand it. The public is tired of the leftist leaning liberal crap that the so called news is espousing. Note that they want to regulate the “citizen journalism”. Gee, I guess the 2nd Amendment isn’t the only “collective” right anymore eh? Freedom of speech only applies to the media...

Mike


46 posted on 12/13/2007 2:49:33 PM PST by BCR #226
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To: abb
"Citizen journalists can't be trusted!"

"Incoming!"

47 posted on 12/13/2007 2:51:02 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Sherman Logan
The irony is that the author apparently doesn't recognize that most Americans are convinced the MSM is already loaded with fraud

The irony: journalists seem to be the least informed among us.

LOL

48 posted on 12/13/2007 2:52:28 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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As the Internet continues its spectacular growth, it has been revealing some shocking truths never before known or long denied. One of them that many will not want to hear is that journalism is entertainment. News, like other forms of entertainment, is almost purely about giving us diversion from the worries of our day-to-day lives. ...

49 posted on 12/13/2007 2:55:24 PM PST by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: abb

“CNN’s last YouTube Republican debate included a question from a retired general who is on Hillary Clinton’s lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender steering committee.” — Hey Sherlock, It was CNN who vetted the question, not a Citizen Journalist! Genius.


50 posted on 12/13/2007 2:59:36 PM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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