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Resident snatches gun, kills invader
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 12/15/2007 | Russ Rizzo and Melinda Rogers

Posted on 12/15/2007 6:46:46 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

With his dog shot dead, his wife tied to a chair and his 16-month-old child asleep in a nearby bedroom, a West Valley City man took a gamble to end a home invasion robbery Thursday night.

As he was being dragged at gunpoint around his home in search of valuables to steal, the man snatched a gun from one of the invaders and pulled the trigger.

Jesse James Montoya, a suspected gang member, fell to the floor dead. A second home invader and a female accomplice fled the scene, and police were still looking for them.

Shortly after a woman knocked on the door, two men forced their way into a home, in the 3500 South block of 4400 West, about 10:20 p.m. Thursday, police said.

The invaders shot and killed the family's Great Dane dog, taped the homeowner's wife to a chair, and one of the intruders took the husband around the house at gunpoint looking for valuables, police said.

That's when the homeowner snatched the gun from Montoya and shot him, said West Valley City police Lt. Lamonte Cox. According to court records, Montoya was charged with second-degree felony attempted murder in 1994. He was also charged and pleaded guilty to third-degree felony aggravated assault the same year.

West Valley City police Sgt. Bill Merritt said investigators are determining how the robbers chose their victims. The homeowner said he hadn't met or seen Montoya before, which sets the incident apart from other home invasion robberies, Merritt said.

Random home robberies are unusual, Merritt said.

"We're looking for a possible link [between the homeowner and robbers]," he said. "Very rarely is it a random hit."

The homeowner on Friday evening declined an interview request through a relative, who said the man's attorney advised him not to speak to the media about the incident.

The couple's baby was not hurt, Cox said.


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No more gang-bangin' for this parasite, he got what he deserved.
1 posted on 12/15/2007 6:46:46 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Interesting “blame the victim” angle in the article, though...


2 posted on 12/15/2007 6:49:05 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Although most dead people vote democrat, aborted babies, if given the choice, would vote Republican.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Random home robberies are unusual,

What? Since when?

3 posted on 12/15/2007 6:53:19 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Hegemony Cricket

I missed that, elaborate.


4 posted on 12/15/2007 6:54:39 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Random home robberies are unusual, Merritt said.

Better start gettind used to it. Our society allows these scum out to attack innocent people.

5 posted on 12/15/2007 6:57:27 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: ontap
West Valley City police Sgt. Bill Merritt said investigators are determining how the robbers chose their victims. The homeowner said he hadn't met or seen Montoya before, which sets the incident apart from other home invasion robberies, Merritt said. Random home robberies are unusual, Merritt said.

"We're looking for a possible link [between the homeowner and robbers]," he said. ">Very rarely is it a random hit."

The homeowner on Friday evening declined an interview request through a relative, who said the man's attorney advised him not to speak to the media about the incident.

The inference was that the invaders and the homeowner knew each other, possibly through some sort of criminal activity.

6 posted on 12/15/2007 7:01:50 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: raybbr

Don’t forget the limp judges, and POS juries.


7 posted on 12/15/2007 7:02:11 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: ontap

Despite the homeowners assertions that he didn’t know any of the perps, he is still being investigated for links to the perps because the police Sgt. has a prejudice that there must be some connection...


8 posted on 12/15/2007 7:03:23 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Although most dead people vote democrat, aborted babies, if given the choice, would vote Republican.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Possible slam, rather covert.


9 posted on 12/15/2007 7:04:31 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Good work. Sorry about the Great Dane. Thank God the man’s family is okay.

Too bad the other perps made it out alive.


10 posted on 12/15/2007 7:06:26 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Man guilty of felony assault in 1994 and on the streets with a gun 2 1/2 years later.


11 posted on 12/15/2007 7:06:33 AM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Is any home robbery “random”? The perps knew what they were doing. It was no accident, no consequence of Brownian Motion.

Why does it matter so much how the perps chose their victims? Note that the article does not seem to fret over whether this was a hate crime. It doesn’t ask where these thugs came from, or whether they were even US citizens.

The article does reveal that our great justice system did nothing to prevent this crime, even though the good (i.e., dead) thug had already committed serious crimes.

Our “justice system” does not sufficiently protect citizens, even in their homes. We coddle the criminals, let them off early from soft, short sentences, and have effectively or actually prevented capital punishment. It becomes more and more the responsibility of the individual to protect himself and his/her family.

A large dog is a help, but in this case the criminals shot the family pet. No neighbors heard that? That another thing the police should be checking out.


12 posted on 12/15/2007 7:10:01 AM PST by docbnj
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To: ontap

I agree it was covert, but I read it the same way that Bellicosity did even before the comments. It seemed to me that the police were hinting that the armed home invasion was really a drug dealer trying to get money out of a junkie, or something similar. We shall see.


13 posted on 12/15/2007 7:11:44 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Too bad the female accomplice didn’t get taken out of the gene pool.


14 posted on 12/15/2007 7:14:27 AM PST by em2vn
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To: docbnj

What a horrible story, and on the 7th anniversary of the vile Wichita rapes/mass murders. I am so glad the man was able to fight back. Otherwise he, his wife, and the baby probably would have ended up dead and this would have been another sickening outrage. I wonder if the victims were white. If so then we can be sure this would never be reported outside the local area. Though at least we on FR are able to keep informed by seeing news from around the nation.

Of course the Cheshire CT home invasion rape/killings was a huge national story. It was OK with the media in that case since the perpetrators and victims all were white.


15 posted on 12/15/2007 7:14:57 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: docbnj

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away...


16 posted on 12/15/2007 7:15:18 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"Jesse James Montoya, a suspected gang member, fell to the floor dead."

"Hello, my name is Jesse James Montoya. You shot me; I'm prepared to die."

17 posted on 12/15/2007 7:16:18 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Yo-Yo
It seemed to me that the police were hinting that the armed home invasion was really a drug dealer trying to get money out of a junkie, or something similar. We shall see.

You mean the other way around. Dealers have money stashed around the house, junkies don't

18 posted on 12/15/2007 7:16:31 AM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: Yo-Yo

Even if it wasa a dealer robbing a junkie, the same laws apply, so why is the history important? Does a junkie not have a right to defend himself? I think the PD needs to take a chill pill and move on to start documenting the history of another crime.


19 posted on 12/15/2007 7:17:24 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Hegemony Cricket

Yes, the cop wants to try to put across the notion that the homeowner was perhaps some kind of criminal himself. Of course, he’s doing so with no clue that he is slandering the man without cause. If I were the victime, I’d sue the crap out of his department for that.

The larger issue, though, is that the government doesn’t want us to know that they are doing such a crappy job of providing any kind of protection and/or security for the citizens that things like this can happen to anyone at any time. I would also think the fact of the Great Dane being there would preclude the perps having any knowledge of the situation inside the house. If they knew the guy had a dog of that size, would they have busted in to start with?


20 posted on 12/15/2007 7:18:27 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Yo-Yo
The inference was that the invaders and the homeowner knew each other

That's not how I read it at all.

To me, the inference was that in most home invasion cases, the invaders know or have met their intended victims.
"Random home robberies are unusual, (Police Sgt.) Merritt said." That is a statment of fact.

21 posted on 12/15/2007 7:18:41 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Res firma mitescere nescit)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Its Christmas and we have a happy ending to this story.


22 posted on 12/15/2007 7:19:04 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"The invaders shot and killed the family's Great Dane dog, taped the homeowner's wife to a chair, and one of the intruders took the husband around the house at gunpoint ..."

Hey, hey! Only DEA SWAT teams can do that!

23 posted on 12/15/2007 7:19:40 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Yo-Yo

[”We’re looking for a possible link [between the homeowner and robbers],” he said. “>Very rarely is it a random hit.” ]

It is likely random as to the victim but the perps have studied him to determine potential reward vs. risk. They miscalculated here.


24 posted on 12/15/2007 7:20:15 AM PST by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Its Christmas and we have a happy ending to this story.

Heck, just shooting a man’s dog is grounds enough to blast the scum bags. I agree, too bad the baby maker got away. She likely will breed like some sort of rat.


25 posted on 12/15/2007 7:21:25 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Its Christmas and we have a happy ending to this story.

Heck, just shooting a man’s dog is grounds enough to blast the scum bags. I agree, too bad the baby maker got away. She likely will breed like a sewer rat.


26 posted on 12/15/2007 7:22:22 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: raybbr

In Utah, it’s happening more and more. Not real long ago, there was a home invader two towns over that took a 12 gauge round to the chest. Solved his repeat-offender problem.


27 posted on 12/15/2007 7:29:01 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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"If they knew the guy had a dog of that size, would they have busted in to start with?"

Sure. The first thing they did was shoot the dog.

If it turns out this guy was a drug dealer and the perps were after his money, I say the police should declare NHI, drop the investigation, and move on to another case.

28 posted on 12/15/2007 7:29:01 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Big reason we need Fred Thompson as POTUS.
29 posted on 12/15/2007 7:30:19 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

West Valley has had a lot of home invasion robberies lately. It has become the favorite way for drug dealers to rip each other off in the area. Not sure if that’s the case here or if gang-boy decided to try it out at a random house.


30 posted on 12/15/2007 7:32:15 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: txzman

If the jails weren’t crammed full of harmless potheads, there’d be room for scum like this. Violent criminals ought to get twenty-five years without parole on the first offense, and hanged in public on the second offense, every single time.


31 posted on 12/15/2007 7:42:48 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

One less drunk on our freeways. Cool

Regards


32 posted on 12/15/2007 7:46:23 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

I agree.


33 posted on 12/15/2007 7:49:49 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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> Its Christmas and we have a happy ending to this story.
Not so. The life of the great dane wass worth far more than the lives of the criminals that invaded this home.


34 posted on 12/15/2007 7:53:55 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: Larry Lucido
Too bad the other perps made it out alive.
Maybe the homeowner was afraid to shoot them in the back as they were running out the door, rightfully worried about the possible legal repercussions in a country that still puts too high a value on the lives of criminals.
35 posted on 12/15/2007 7:54:38 AM PST by samtheman
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If the jails weren’t crammed full of harmless potheads...
The jails aren't "crammed full of harmless potheads". Don't talk stupid.
36 posted on 12/15/2007 7:55:48 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Yo-Yo

I don’t read it that way. The cops are presuming that the perps somehow knew there were things in the house worth stealing. That could easily be thru a repairman or lawn service.


37 posted on 12/15/2007 7:56:17 AM PST by Starwolf
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"Jesse James Montoya, a suspected gang member, fell to the floor dead."

"Hello, my name is Jesse James Montoya. You shot me; I'm prepared to die."

Ding,ding,ding! Quickest wit of the thread....

38 posted on 12/15/2007 7:58:57 AM PST by Castlebar
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I’m going to give the LEOs some slack here...
1) There is no way to know what the cop actually said, given the slovenly state of the media.
2) In a murder, you first look at the people around the victim. Its the highest percentage. Same thing with home invasion. The perps went there because they thought there were thing they could steal. A link could be something a innocent as a lawn service or repairman. The other real possibility is that they hit the wrong house. As we know, even the LEOs do that.


39 posted on 12/15/2007 8:01:16 AM PST by Starwolf
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I love instant justice.


40 posted on 12/15/2007 8:23:47 AM PST by manic4organic (Send a care package through USO today.)
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To: Yo-Yo
The inference was that the invaders and the homeowner knew each other, possibly through some sort of criminal activity.

Not necessarily through criminal activity. Could be that the wife knew the woman from somewhere, or the men could have run into the husband somewhere, or knew someone who had known about the couple, without their knowing the perps at all. The police will be looking for all kinds of connections, and this will help them identify the two who took off when their accomplice was shot.

41 posted on 12/15/2007 8:27:38 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Isn’t against the Law to shoot a home invader?
42 posted on 12/15/2007 8:29:10 AM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: Starwolf

I agree. In this area (West Valley City), there have been a lot of home invasion robberies that have turned out to be drug dealers ripping each other off for drugs and/or cash.

Statistically, especially in this area, random home-invasions are rare. There’s usually a connection. The cop wasn’t committing to anything particular. It’s not known whether it’s drugs, some other criminal activity, a kid who found out somehow that the person has money and valuables (a lot of times, a disgruntled teenager will do this kind of caper to get enough money to go on the lam from mom and dad), or no link at all.


43 posted on 12/15/2007 8:32:12 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: Radix

Not in Utah, which is very pro-gun. You’ve gotta have rocks in your head to be a home-invasion robber in the western states (with the exception of Colorado, which is the west’s version of Greenwich Village). In my locale, there was a home invader who took a 12 gauge round to the chest and was dead before he hit the floor, homeowner was cleared with no problems.


44 posted on 12/15/2007 8:35:05 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: samtheman
"The jails aren't "crammed full of harmless potheads". Don't talk stupid."

You are right. They are only half-full of harmless potheads.

45 posted on 12/15/2007 8:53:13 AM PST by Hoof Hearted
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
with the exception of Colorado,

Wrong.

Colorado was a very early adopter of the "make my day" law, allowing homeowners to use deadly force with no fear of charges against the themselves.

The worsening Lib attitude in the metro areas is the result of the ongoing exodus from Kalifornia.

46 posted on 12/15/2007 8:59:37 AM PST by JOAT
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Actually they are. Home invasions are most often a falling out among drug dealers and thieves.

Got it straight from a cop’s mouth.


47 posted on 12/15/2007 9:06:45 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I am curious about the home owner’s usage of an attorney. He certainly has a right to consult an attorney and not talk to the police directly. If the home owner has no connection to this home invasion, I am not sure why he would consult an attorney. My suspicions are raised on this incident although I applaud him for his defense of his family.


48 posted on 12/15/2007 9:08:15 AM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Robbers like this shouldn’t use guns. They’re only likely to get them taken away and used on them by the homeowner.


49 posted on 12/15/2007 9:38:40 AM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Hoof Hearted

There’s definitely a pothead in this discussion, but I have to take you’re word for it that you’re harmless. So they let you post from jail?


50 posted on 12/15/2007 9:38:58 AM PST by samtheman
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