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New York Times Set To Nuke Hillary? (Tomorrow?)
Riehl World View ^ | 12/15/07

Posted on 12/15/2007 8:27:52 AM PST by LdSentinal

New York Times Set To Nuke Hillary?

Drudge has this below up with no link. But pay attention to the reporter's name:

NYT Plans Sunday Exclusive on Questionable Clinton Library donors... Reporter Don Van Natta... Developing...

He's a serious award-winning investigative journalist ... and co-author with Jeff Gerth of Her Way:

link: Prosecutors later came to believe that Hillary had padded her bills; she "wasn't guilty of [knowingly] facilitating nefarious transactions -- she was guilty of doing less work than she took credit for," Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta Jr. explain in their 2007 biography, Her Way. Hillary herself never took refuge in this explanation.

Somehow I'm thinking Hillary isn't pleased re Her Way:

Van Natta: "We also show that she has a sort of secret side to her Senate office. We call it the mysteries of Hillaryland in the book where she actually had people on, employees of hers, people on her payroll, who she did not divulge as she was supposed to, according to Senate rules, and we have ethics experts raising questions about that."

Gerth: "She is now running for president, and we felt that people needed to understand how, how she acts in the political arena and, and use that as a basis for deciding whether she is qualified to be president or not. And, you know, in essence, we sort of found that there are two Hillarys. In, in one case, there's the well-informed, the battle-tested, the diligent senator who does her homework. And then we found another Hillary. When it comes to a bump in the road -- whether it is on Iraq or on energy policy or on the environment, where she has a problem, that she plays fast and loose with the facts, she won't admit a mistake, and she sort of, you know, retreats into a shell."



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: clintonlibrary; foreignmoney; hillary; putsomeiceonthat; saudiarabia; traitor
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To: tcrlaf

Monica showing no mercy.

http://www.wabcradio.com/article.asp?id=122648


151 posted on 12/15/2007 10:18:22 AM PST by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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To: Nonstatist
I think Obama is easy pickings in a general election. We should all be rooting for this left wing novice to win the nomination.. Oh happy day, if this happens!

I disagree, I think many blacks that normally stay home just might come out to vote for Obama. Next to Edwards, Obama has the best chance of getting elected in my mind. In the end it is all going to come down to the republican nominee since the democratic field is such a joke.

152 posted on 12/15/2007 10:18:36 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Jo Nuvark

“We’ll know Hillary is politically dead when Obama starts going through her pockets looking for loose change”

DEMZILLA is worth a whole lot more....


153 posted on 12/15/2007 10:18:37 AM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: tcrlaf

see post # 143


154 posted on 12/15/2007 10:19:59 AM PST by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: LdSentinal
there's the well-informed, the battle-tested, the diligent senator who does her homework

Really? Could we have some evidence of this?

Battle-tested? Battle-ax maybe, but battle-tested? What battles has she fought. I'm serious! Has she fought any? (BTW, ambushes are not battles IMHO.)

Homework? Could anyone really be impressed by someone who knows the answers to questions she planted a few hours earlier. I'm more impressed by an actress who can remember an entire script she has to perform, but that hardly qualifies the actress to be President of the United States. Hillary has to remember a few sound-bites. And anytime there's a glitch in her script, it's a schadenfreude moment for folks like me.

ML/NJ

155 posted on 12/15/2007 10:20:07 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: pepperhead

And of course how many third party votes get sucked off each side.


156 posted on 12/15/2007 10:20:58 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: MNJohnnie

I think it is more than that. Hillary has been wounded very badly. The NYT might be going in for the kill because they worry that what will come out about her, now being held back by the GOP, will do great damage to the Dems.


157 posted on 12/15/2007 10:21:35 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: ml/nj

Excellent post , .. ( as always )


158 posted on 12/15/2007 10:21:42 AM PST by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: upier

ping


159 posted on 12/15/2007 10:24:46 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

I agree she won her first election with 55% of the vote and the second with 67%. She is not battle tested she is just running in a extremely liberal state.


160 posted on 12/15/2007 10:25:27 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: tcrlaf

[... DEMZILLA is worth a whole lot more...]

She’s worth what people are willing to pay.
Yet even our souls won’t satisfy the Hilda Beast.


161 posted on 12/15/2007 10:27:35 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: pepperhead
I disagree, I think many blacks that normally stay home just might come out to vote for Obama

Black women vote their weight, so to speak, relative to the general population, and I dont think Obama is going to get any more Black males (who are still elligible) to come out any than they do. And even if he does, it will be countered easily by the fence sitters who will never vote for a Black guy, but will never tell the pollsters that.

I guess we'll just have to disagree. Obama is a real lefty, and he cant keep that secret forever.

162 posted on 12/15/2007 10:27:36 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Victor
Yes. Much as I personally discount anything the Times has to say, the people who can't go potty in the morning without the Times telling them it's okay will be persuaded by this.
163 posted on 12/15/2007 10:27:41 AM PST by firebrand
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To: dennisw
Who will this Muslim sleeper agent latch onto after Hillary blows the primaries? I think Huma looks a lot better with Obama than with Hillary. Obama could ditch his kooky wife and get a real Muslim wife

LOL!

164 posted on 12/15/2007 10:29:10 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Mohito Loe

“Hillary must be dead, not MOSTLY dead.”

I think this might be from “The Princess Bride”. IIRC, Billy Crystal was able to revive the hero because he was only “mostly dead” instead of “all dead”.


165 posted on 12/15/2007 10:29:46 AM PST by NewMexLurker
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To: doug from upland
"...I have a suspension of disbelief regarding some of your claims"

Good one.
166 posted on 12/15/2007 10:30:01 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: LdSentinal

Ok - I’m confused.

Although the Post story has an ominous headline, what is illegal about the donors?


167 posted on 12/15/2007 10:30:26 AM PST by Scarchin (+)
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To: dennisw

Who you callin' kooky!

168 posted on 12/15/2007 10:30:57 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Hazwaste
probable repeated rapes

Sorry, your post had a mistake in it. I corrected it for you.

169 posted on 12/15/2007 10:31:13 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: casino66

Crowley: “The blood is in the water and the piranhas are out in full force.”


170 posted on 12/15/2007 10:34:33 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: MNJohnnie
I wondered how long it would be before someone inserted that note of rationality. Good job. You’re exactly right!

How many times have see seen the Clintons skewered only to have their mouthpieces say, “Oh that’s old news.” There was nothing to that.

They raise their own people to offer up inoculations. And then those people turn right around and defend Hillary later on. This will be no different.

If this was truly a hit piece, it would have come out just weeks before the election. And I don’t mean the primaries. This is a late inoculation, and that’s it.

171 posted on 12/15/2007 10:35:39 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: LdSentinal
The democrat power brokers have decided that Hillary is a LOSER! The NY Times is tossing dirt on Hillary's newly dug grave (she is inside screaming and yelling).


172 posted on 12/15/2007 10:37:16 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: pepperhead
Pepperhead, just a couple of things.

Barak Hussein Obama. While we are fighting a war against Islamic terrorists, this will not play well outside of the coasts.

He is an empty suit, long of speechifying, very short on policy specifics. In a debate with Romney or Rudy or Fred or Huckabee, he will look like what he is, a lightweight, an empty suit.

Scratch the surface and you will find a screaming liberal. Even Hillary is accusing him of being too far to the left.

Given these handicaps, I don't think the fact that he is black will matter to anyone.

173 posted on 12/15/2007 10:37:44 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: SE Mom
I never saw it on Drudge maybe it was a hit and run.
174 posted on 12/15/2007 10:38:00 AM PST by boomop1 (is a hit and run nitwitt)
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To: Nonstatist

I somewhat agree with what you say. Obama could energize people to vote for him just as easily as energizing them not to vote for him. In the end I hope people will judge him for what kind of man he is and that is a extreme liberal.


175 posted on 12/15/2007 10:38:46 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: mewzilla

Pay off for providing an airforce for the jihadis in the Balkans?


176 posted on 12/15/2007 10:39:41 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: CyberAnt
Maybe somebody at the NYT sees the writing on the wall

Lots of people trace the decline of the MSM to the internet and talk-radio. I think it can more directly be traced to their shilling for the Clintons. There was effectively no internet when Vince Foster was murdered, and Rush was already talking to at least 15 million a week. For some such as myself it was transparently obvious that Foster was murdered, but the MSM said otherwise and I knew I had to look elsewhere for news. I still look at the MSM from time to time for sports scores. They always seem to get these right for some reason, but the only time I look at the front page of a major newspaper anymore is to laugh at it.

Maybe someone in charge of the bottom line has noticed.

ML/NJ

177 posted on 12/15/2007 10:40:39 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Mohito Loe

Agreed. I hope the Republicans would be able to field someone who could beat Obama. I would worry about his foreign policy (he seems to think if he just reverses all of President Bush’s policies everyone in the rest of the world will love us), but he might bring us back from the extreme partisanship and vitriol that has been the norm since 1992—the Clintons’ idea of politics as war and “the politics of personal destruction” which the Democrats have continued as the opposition party since 2001. Of course there’s no guarantee he would do that—he may think the way to popularity is to denounce and defame Bush and the Republicans at every turn, but at least there’s a chance, whereas Hillary will be at least as malignant as in the first two terms.


178 posted on 12/15/2007 10:41:48 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: mad_as_he$$
I am very concerned about the Breck Girl and Fat Bill. I have heard BG’s name more in the press in the last 48 hours than the last two months.

Paying half attention to the news in the last week, I too noticed Breck Girl getting quite a few mentions. Was wondering if I was reading this accurately. Could be that the Kingmakers have run the numbers on the southern states and don't like what they see without Edwards on the ticket.

179 posted on 12/15/2007 10:42:43 AM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: Ditter
I have a friend who lives and breathes the New York Times. She acts like she has a secret link to every truth in the universe because she reads the NYT.

I have a friend like that, too. Lives in NYC, where she believes a "modified Bill of Rights" is in effect because the population is too dense for normal freedom. She's quite happy with that.

She also makes allusions to all the whackjob rantings on DU and daily kos, but says she has never visited those sites, and I believe her. I think there is a "trickle down" mechanism where the lunacy of those sites gets filtered, and then passed on to the "normal" party faithful. What one day is insane screeching on DU becomes accepted fact the next day by the "sane and sober" liberals.

My own opinion is the Slimes and Compost (thank you, Mark Levin) are published with an intended audience of a few thousand movers-and-shakers in mind. These are semi-important people inside the Beltway who don't merit a daily fax, email, or conference call from on high, but still need to know what the day's party line is.

180 posted on 12/15/2007 10:44:10 AM PST by 300winmag (Life is hard! It is even harder when you are stupid!)
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To: LdSentinal

I know a lot of people here want Clinton to win the nomination because she seems to be so beatable in the general election. I’m firmly in the other camp however, with those who want to see her gone as soon as possible.

I view it as having a dark celler infested with rats, along with a single poisonous snake. You could encourage the snake as it killed the rats one by one, and then go down to kill the snake after it had eliminated all the rats. But what happens if you trip, or make some other kind of mistake? Maybe the snake, as slow and stupid as it may be, ends up killing you after all. I say try to dispatch the snake at the very earliest opportunity, even if it leaves you with a rat problem that you have to solve later.


181 posted on 12/15/2007 10:45:42 AM PST by NewMexLurker
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To: tcrlaf


182 posted on 12/15/2007 10:47:29 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

Why do I feel like we are witnessing the last days of Hitler, repeated all over again??

How many sycophants are going to go down with them, and will thier be enough Democrats left when the smoke clears to rebuild a new Democratic Party from the ashes of the Clinton Legacy??


183 posted on 12/15/2007 10:50:50 AM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: Nonstatist
I had the unpleasant experience of witnessing an Obama stump speech in South Carolina. He is so blasted charismatic and mouths the right phrases that he would be more formidable in the general election than She Who Will Not Be Named. Although he has absolutely nothing to back it up, his message is one of a vague hope for a better future, and the undecideds may well buy into that rather than vote against the witches negatives. We had best be careful with what we wish for.
184 posted on 12/15/2007 10:51:00 AM PST by buckalfa
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To: bigjoesaddle
If it looks like Obama is going to win, Hillary will sneak into his room and rip out his jugular with her bare teeth before she lets him win.

Can you imagine the private conversation between the Clintons if the Commodities Scam Queen goes down to Obama? "You let a f------ n----- get the best of you! All our plans and you lose to a f------ n-----! Don't you go blaming this on the f------ Jews. You had it. I gave it to you. And you just blew it."

ML/NJ

185 posted on 12/15/2007 10:52:12 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Jo Nuvark
Hillary must be dead, not MOSTLY dead.

Reminds me of the line from the Princess Bride. "Mostly dead is still partly alive". Clinton Inc is like the monster in some horror flick, no matter how many times you kill them, they always come back.

Here is what is going one. New Democrat Primary, same old drama queen media's "horse race" template.

1st they puff up a front runner, then they manufacture some hype about the front runner "faltering" campaign, then when the "faltering campaign" wins one of the early primaries they start hyper ventilating about the "comeback kid" and their amazing come from behind victory. Then after building up momentum for the "comeback kid" they start beating up the challengers for not "getting out of a race they cannot win".

186 posted on 12/15/2007 11:00:26 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Hillary Clinton has never done one thing right. She thinks that qualifies her to be President?)
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To: Victor
I think Rush said that when the NYT turns on her it will essentially be over.

In the alternate universe of the NYT and its weird readers, things are never quite what they may seem. When Clinton first ran for Senator, the Slimes raked her over the coals unmercifully--then endorsed her.

187 posted on 12/15/2007 11:05:57 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: HereInTheHeartland
It’s over, Obama is their guy.

I black Marxist trumps a female Marxist any day.
188 posted on 12/15/2007 11:06:43 AM PST by Beckwith (<the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Vermont Lt

Like Halle Berry when she won the Oscar as the first Black female to do so, her Mom was no where to be seen, likewise for Obama, is there a reason to be ashamed of your White parents?
His Mom is no longer around but I understand his matermal grandparents are.


189 posted on 12/15/2007 11:08:17 AM PST by pennboricua
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To: MNJohnnie

Your “Horserace Template” is way more than MOSTLY dead on. LOL!

JO’S LITMUS FOR MEDIA TRUTH

1. If the Main Stream (Anti American ) Media (MSAAM) reports that the sun will come up tomorrow, I’m waiting for dawn before believing them. (Courtesy of FReeper CodeMasterPhilzar)

2. The next time you become outraged over a MSAAM headline, calm down. It probably isn’t true.

3. Whatever the MSAAM is backing, I’m backing away from it. A sound litmus for this age of deception and ignorance.

4. If the media promotes it, it is probably a lie and will eventually cost you either your life, your liberty or your sanity.

5. Don’t trust anyone over thirty ESPECIALLY if they are a liberal college professor or MSAAM journalist.

NOTE: This litmus may also be applied to many of the aged (and second generation), hippie left over drug stunted academic bourgoise lemming professors in our institutions of higher learning. Their mantra was “challenge the establishment”. Yet they have become the establishment and their narrow thinking is rarely challenged. Debate is healthy. Research and data from sources other than the circularly validating usual sources should be encouraged. Rather than punish, truth and observable data that contradicts their elitist agendae should be met with maturity and a willingness to “learn”.

NOT A CHRISTOPHOBE

NOT A MATRIX CONSERVATIVE


190 posted on 12/15/2007 11:10:44 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: MNJohnnie
Just getting the dirt out now so after she is nominated they can claim "that is old news" to excuse not covering it during the General Election.

We will know soon, but my read is that The fat lady is about to sing. This could be over very quickly.
191 posted on 12/15/2007 11:11:56 AM PST by cgbg (Nada non nyet--nanny amnesty Huckabee.)
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To: Hazwaste
Those that support the Clintons have already accepted the fact that they're evil and they have choosen to overlook it.

If you hung around enough liberals like I have (not recommending you do so by choice, believe me :-) ) you would see that they only supported the Slick One because he and Hillary fought the "good fight" against the "evil Republicans".

However, they now have an alternative, a black man no less.

Obama is Hillary's worst nightmare.
192 posted on 12/15/2007 11:15:53 AM PST by cgbg (Nada non nyet--nanny amnesty Huckabee.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I think they will have to put a urinal on each of the Clintons’ future graves. If they charged admission they could probably do away with the income tax for a generation (until no one remembered the Clintons any more).


193 posted on 12/15/2007 11:18:40 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: JLS
Still this does not sound like that big a deal to me. I can not imagine implication of the donor list could be anything that the public at large could easily understand. It can not be even as simple as Chinese dishwahsers donating several months pay to he campaign?

lol

Look, the Times wrote an encyclopedia on the "Plame Affair" and all the liberals got from that was that "Cheney ruthlessly exposed an enemy".

The Times writings were totally misleading if not just false, the details were extremely complicated, but the attack stuck in the minds of their readers.

The bottom line--the details of Hillary's "bad deed number 516" (after the Times helped cover up or justify the first 515 of them) won't matter. It is enough that the Times pontificates that this one is a "Big Deal". Rush is right--if they say she is toast she is toast (because the liberal readers and followers will fall in line).
194 posted on 12/15/2007 11:21:20 AM PST by cgbg (Nada non nyet--nanny amnesty Huckabee.)
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To: Ditter
I have a friend who lives and breathes the New York Times. She acts like she has a secret link to every truth in the universe because she reads the NYT. I am waiting for her to tell me the bad news about hillary. he he I have known it all along!

Liberals are like the American Left was in the 1930s.

When Moscow said Hitler was bad he was bad. When Moscow changed their mind with the Hitler-Stalin pact he was good. Then when Hitler invaded Russia he was bad again.

So it shall be with the New York Times and Hitlery.

:-)


195 posted on 12/15/2007 11:24:56 AM PST by cgbg (Nada non nyet--nanny amnesty Huckabee.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
It’s over, Obama is their guy.

I'm not so sure that if Hitlery doesn't take the nomination that Edwards won't still take it. With Obama as the VEEP.

196 posted on 12/15/2007 11:25:46 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: doug from upland

You have cojones... and Hillary has your address. Stay safe!!!


197 posted on 12/15/2007 11:26:41 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

I may have quite a problem if she wins. So, she cannot be allowed to win.


198 posted on 12/15/2007 11:28:17 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Just another Joe

I agree. I think that Edwards is sitting there in the background, not making enemies, and waiting to pick up the pieces.


199 posted on 12/15/2007 11:29:52 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: LdSentinal

Liberals and the NYT are for the dem candidate who will frighten conservatives the most. They’ve made their choice. They believe conservatives will be more scared of a black man than a white lady.


200 posted on 12/15/2007 11:30:28 AM PST by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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