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State Blocks Muslim Celebration Involving Animal Slaughter
WRAL.com ^ | Anne Leake

Posted on 12/16/2007 10:28:47 AM PST by jern

Smithfield — A judge has told a Johnston County farmer that he cannot open his farm to Muslim families planning to slaughter lambs as part of an annual religious celebration.

The judge issued a 10-day injunction Friday, meaning that about 250 Muslim families in Wake County will have to make other arrangements for slaughtering lambs they bought in advance of the three-day Festival of the Sacrifice, which begins on Wednesday.

Kenneth and Eddie Rowe have tangled before with the state over the mass slaughter of lambs on their 300-acre farm. They said they have been conducting the slaughtering in their 80x100 barn for the past six years.

In 2005, the Rowes preserved their right to carry on the tradition. The state Department of Agriculture fined them $10,000 for the practice the same year, but the Rowes have not yet paid it.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
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1 posted on 12/16/2007 10:28:49 AM PST by jern
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To: jern

I guess the annual Festival of the Disemboweling of the Infidels is out this year.


2 posted on 12/16/2007 10:30:31 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Just waiting for the ACLU to come to the rescue of the only religion they embrace.


3 posted on 12/16/2007 10:32:52 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Please dont drag your filth into my swamp...........)
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To: jern

At the risk of siding with the Moslems, why aren’t they allowed to slaughter lambs?


4 posted on 12/16/2007 10:33:12 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: jern

I am waiting for those wimpering cowards over at PETA to speak up against the barbarians. And I hear?...

(sounds of crickets chirping)


5 posted on 12/16/2007 10:34:06 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: jern
..they have been conducting the slaughtering in their 80x100 barn for the past six years. In 2005, the Rowes preserved their right to carry on the tradition.

Does six years really constitute a Tradition?

6 posted on 12/16/2007 10:35:16 AM PST by WesternPacific
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To: FormerACLUmember

Forget the lambs- suggest they slaughter each other. REAL sacrifice- and less Muslims in the world.


7 posted on 12/16/2007 10:35:33 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: FormerACLUmember
And this is bad, why? When the animal is "sacrificed" it is EATEN by all involved! They make it sound like they are torturing kittens or something...

I am not a fan of Islam (as a matter of fact, I despise that faith), but this is ridiculous. Let them enjoy their mutton!

8 posted on 12/16/2007 10:35:33 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Because this is America, where you can’t do anything you want to your private property.


9 posted on 12/16/2007 10:35:53 AM PST by BGHater (If Guns Cause Crime Then Matches Cause Arson?)
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To: jern

What state is this in. In case I’m traveling there I want to be able to stear clear of crowds and human bombs.


10 posted on 12/16/2007 10:36:35 AM PST by fella (The proper application of the truth far more important than the knowledge of it's existance."Ike")
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To: jern

If it’s their private property, they can do what they want with it. Why don’t we spend our time fighting the Muslims who behead, stone, gas, blow up, and impale PEOPLE over in the Middle East instead?


11 posted on 12/16/2007 10:37:20 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: jern; Jeff Chandler

I’m not siding with Muslims as Muslims, but what’s wrong with slaughtering lambs/pigs/goats, whatever?

I think they do what Orthodox Jews do, which is slit the animal’s throat and let it bleed out (which I believe happens fairly quickly).

I’ve seen this in Spain, where they slaughter hogs this way, btw.


12 posted on 12/16/2007 10:37:41 AM PST by livius
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To: jern

I think that noted imam Denis Leary said it best:

“Meat is murder...”


13 posted on 12/16/2007 10:38:04 AM PST by RichInOC ("...and murder is pretty ****ing tasty.")
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To: Yorlik803

My cousins in Texas are now raising goats, which they sell to muslims in Detroit.

Not sure if the goats are for ceremonial, culinary, or erotic use.


14 posted on 12/16/2007 10:38:32 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: G8 Diplomat

The beast that is Islam has already taken over the middle east, and is doing the terrible things you mention.
This incident is one of the many ‘toes in the door’; that same beast rooting itself here.
Would you rather fight it while it is small, or wait till the suicide bombs and beheadings are here? We’re dealing with a mindset that sees little difference between slaughtering lambs and killing their own daughters! Death is at it’s core.
Islam is death. Fight it wherever, and however you find it.


15 posted on 12/16/2007 10:42:12 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: FormerACLUmember; Yorlik803; jern
Not sure if the goats are for ceremonial, culinary, or erotic use.

They're not mutually exclusive uses.

16 posted on 12/16/2007 10:42:16 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: FormerACLUmember
Not sure if the goats are for ceremonial, culinary, or erotic use.

Well, do they get more money for the pretty ones? :=)

17 posted on 12/16/2007 10:42:44 AM PST by Bob
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To: jern

Has the judge issued an injunction against all slaughter houses in the area?

This has nothing to do with Muslim or any other religion. This has to do with a judge that is a moron.


18 posted on 12/16/2007 10:43:54 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: jern

“State agriculture officials said the Rowes must build a custom slaughter facility. The two men say that would cost $740,000. State officials said mass slaughters conducted any other way are unsanitary and threaten an outbreak of disease.

The lamb slaughter commemorates the day when Muslims believe God allowed the patriarch Abraham to sacrifice a ram, instead of his son. Muslims believe the son to be sacrificed was Ishmael, rather than Isaac as recorded in the Christian Old Testament.”

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There are the reasons. And, no, I didn’t notice any input by the PETA crowd. Guess there are still a few people left that they are respectful/afraid of.


19 posted on 12/16/2007 10:44:29 AM PST by sinanju
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To: live+let_live

I think that just to be even handed, the judge should ban the sale of meat in the entire county.


20 posted on 12/16/2007 10:44:52 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: FormerACLUmember

The article ends: “Eddie Rowe said sending the lambs – which cost around $32,000 – to slaughterhouses is not acceptable option, because the families then could not watch.”

Why not give each family a DVD of their lamb being slaughtered? They could watch it every year.

Do the children also watch this? It’s a wonder that they don’t turn out twisted. Or do they?


21 posted on 12/16/2007 10:45:08 AM PST by docbnj
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To: ClearBlueSky

Gov’t is way more dangerous in this case.

The next step will be outlawing Muslim homeschool, then Christian homeschool. Ya get the picture?


22 posted on 12/16/2007 10:46:12 AM PST by BGHater (If Guns Cause Crime Then Matches Cause Arson?)
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To: Clemenza

On the one hand, if they have lambs to slaughter, maybe they’ll leave us infidels alone (cathartic release.)

On the other hand, what if they are merely PRACTICING??!!!!


23 posted on 12/16/2007 10:46:33 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: live+let_live

And require all animal shelters and dog pounds to go ‘no-kill’.

Maybe even ban killing babies? No, never mind that wouldn’t be enlightened.


24 posted on 12/16/2007 10:46:33 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: Yorlik803

Where’s PETA?


25 posted on 12/16/2007 10:46:56 AM PST by donna (Obama on cocaine: "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.")
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To: Jeff Chandler

Same reasons pagans can’t sacrifice animals...


26 posted on 12/16/2007 10:47:16 AM PST by EBH (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: jern

First lambs, then goats — NEXT US. If they want to live like this, they should return to their natal and ancestral hell countries and get the hell out of here.


27 posted on 12/16/2007 10:47:36 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: jern

Free The Lambs...Kill the Rats.


28 posted on 12/16/2007 10:48:19 AM PST by Gator113
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To: ClearBlueSky

This isn’t a progression where first they slaughter lambs, then things suddenly grow and they start slaughtering their children. The two are independent of each other. If they kill their own daughter, the a-hole should be arrested, tried for murder, and given a just sentence. If they want to slaughter lambs on their own private property, so what.

Historically Christians sacrificed lambs too. Would this judge put a stop to that as well?


29 posted on 12/16/2007 10:49:16 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: sinanju

So it’s not the slaughter itself, but the magnitude of the slaughter and the public health ramifications.

[Note: ramifications is the appropriate word to convey the intended meaning, and is in no way intended as a sheep pun.]


30 posted on 12/16/2007 10:50:07 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: G8 Diplomat
Historically Christians sacrificed lambs too.

Uh, no. Animal sacdifice is not part of the Christian faith.

31 posted on 12/16/2007 10:51:21 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: G8 Diplomat
Historically Christians sacrificed lambs too.

The very first Christians did, but I am not aware of that practice carrying forward to the Gentile Christians.

32 posted on 12/16/2007 10:51:38 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: jern

Allow them to do that and they’ll want to chop heads off and not be arrested for it. Wait, they already do!


33 posted on 12/16/2007 10:51:46 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: don-o

God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac to test his faith, so he tied him to the alter but an angel stopped him before he did anything. Afterwards, he found a ram caught in the bushes to sacrifice instead.

That’s what I was referring to.


34 posted on 12/16/2007 10:54:48 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I meant the very first Christians


35 posted on 12/16/2007 10:55:14 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: jern

Is the restriction because the Rowes don’t have a licensed abbatoir?


36 posted on 12/16/2007 10:56:09 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: docbnj

If Orthodox Jews can find a way to slaughter animals that meet both State and Jewish law I am sure Muslim can find a way as well.


37 posted on 12/16/2007 10:58:06 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

sometimes the jokes write themselves....


38 posted on 12/16/2007 11:00:48 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Please dont drag your filth into my swamp...........)
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To: Clemenza
And this is bad, why? When the animal is "sacrificed" it is EATEN by all involved! They make it sound like they are torturing kittens or something... I am not a fan of Islam (as a matter of fact, I despise that faith), but this is ridiculous. Let them enjoy their mutton!

Me thinks ist's about time for them all to move back to whatever backward country they are from where they would have the freedom to do their thing. I'll get them a one way ticket.

39 posted on 12/16/2007 11:03:32 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: ClearBlueSky

So many virgins, all at once!


40 posted on 12/16/2007 11:05:00 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: jern

I know many families who “sacrifice” an animal every year. Will I be outlawed from raising, slaughtering and cooking my Thanksgiving turkey next?


41 posted on 12/16/2007 11:07:58 AM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima county- Home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Jeff Chandler; Clemenza; Calpernia; george76; SJackson; CrappieLuck

I agree with Jeff and Clemenza on this one. I don’t think a judge should tell folks they can’t slaughter animals for food on their property, unless it is a health hazard or something.

PETA would love this.


42 posted on 12/16/2007 11:14:24 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: Yorlik803
The ACLU is busy celebrating the sacrifice of young humans at the Alter of Choice.
43 posted on 12/16/2007 11:16:37 AM PST by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: live+let_live

Exactly.

Whatif I want to kill a deer on my property, and I don’t have a slaughterhouse?


44 posted on 12/16/2007 11:17:43 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: docbnj

Do you eat meat? You know the stuff that is in the shiny packages in the grocery store?

Lots of kids were raised on farms where they kill animals for food, and they aren’t twisted.


45 posted on 12/16/2007 11:19:44 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: G8 Diplomat

“God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac to test his faith, so he tied him to the alter but an angel stopped him before he did anything. Afterwards, he found a ram caught in the bushes to sacrifice instead.

That’s what I was referring to.”

Abraham was a Christian? How prescient of him!


46 posted on 12/16/2007 11:20:42 AM PST by UKTory
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To: jern

If it is like our state, one has to build a separate facility to slaughter differant things. Chickens are slaughtered in a different building than beef for example.

In this area the Moslums have van trucks that have a hole in the floor of the bed. They park over a sewer and kill the animals and bleed them over the sewer. No one knows until the mess hits the treatment plant.


47 posted on 12/16/2007 11:20:47 AM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: jern

Bloodsport - and a creepy one at that.


48 posted on 12/16/2007 11:21:46 AM PST by GOPJ (Dems! Would you trust a pilot's wife to land a plane just because she's a frequent flyer??)
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To: Jeff Chandler; Clemenza; Calpernia; george76; SJackson; CrappieLuck; girlangler; Grinder; ...

This is insane. The sacrifice is not torture. The meat is eaten. I’ve never, nor will I blocked sales of lambs on my site and they were bought for this celebration.


50 posted on 12/16/2007 11:22:36 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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