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To: CowboyConservative
I'd love to read an account of the incident, or "go to the tape".

What I hear/read is that she engaged the guy and advanced on him while yelling "Surrender!" and firing. If a reliable and more detailed account is available, I'd love to see it.

It MAY not be accurate to say she NEEDED all ten shots. I can imagine in a situation where you are advancing on an armed person who has already started shooting that you focus on lining up your front sight with his general outline and pull the trigger until all you hear is "Click, click, click." (So why did she have only a 10-round mag? Who knows?) She may have kind of forgotten to stop shooting until she ran out or the guy was obviously on the floor and more or less motionless.

Your average LEO or security person doesn't get a whole lot of practice dealing with major adrenaline dumps. I don't think it's within reasonable bounds to expect Dirty Harry-like cool and deliberation from such folks. I think she did fine.

Are there any indications she hit anybody else? From one account that I heard, she did a lot better than her two male companions who sat around and dithered while she actually engaged the bad guy. Yeah, I guess she wasn't perfect. I kind of like her imperfection and would like to think I'd do as well in a similar situation.

75 posted on 12/16/2007 1:39:13 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

There is also an account that he was wearing some kind of flak vest as well. If that’s the case, probably wouldn’t have mattered what weapon she had, it would have taken more than one shot to the chest.


163 posted on 12/17/2007 7:18:23 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Mad Dawg
I also would like to see a detailed account of what happened.
Make no mistake what she did was the proper thing to do and I would have done the same thing. I do question her choice of weapon (a subject I have discussed in other replies) and also her training that seems to be a little lacking. (also a subject I have covered) Both of the above have an easy fix. Unfortunately many security guards get only basic training and that is not enough it is not enough for anybody who decides to carry a firearm. There is no disrespect towards her as a person or her decision to stop the situation. My concern was with what transpired and the possible danger to innocent bystanders when you need to empty 10 rounds to stop an individual, that alone. Example how many of those rounds hit the target and where did the rest go? She has demonstrated she has what it would take to handle a situation and to that my hat is off to her. It was a tough situation and in the end we never really know how we are going to react until we indeed react. I apologize I had overlooked you comments and that is why the delay with a response
211 posted on 12/17/2007 2:59:35 PM PST by CowboyConservative
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