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Out of Control: AIDS and the corruption of medical science (a must read)
Harper's Magazine ^ | March 2006 | Celia Farber

Posted on 12/16/2007 6:00:09 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

...Regardless of whether Duesberg is right about HIV, his case, like Fishbein's, lays bare the political machinery of American science, and reveals its reflexive hostility to ideas that challenge the dominant paradigm. Such hostility is not unusual in the history of science, but the contemporary situation is dramatically different from those faced by maverick scientists in the past. Today's scientists are almost wholly dependent upon the goodwill of government researchers and powerful peer-review boards, who control a financial network binding together the National Institutes of Health, academia, and the biotech and pharmaceutical industries. Many scientists live in fear of losing their funding. “Nobody is safe,” one NIH-funded researcher told me. “The scientific-medical complex is a $2 trillion industry,” says former drug developer Dr. David Rasnick, who now works on nutrition-based AIDS programs in Pretoria, South Africa. “You can buy a tremendous amount of consensus for that kind of money.”

You have to write a grant a year almost. And you have to write four to get one, if you're any good. I got out just in time. Everybody who's still in there says the same thing,” says Berkeley's Strohman. “Before the biotech boom, we never had this incessant urging to produce something useful, meaning profitable. Everybody is caught up in it. Grants, millions of dollars flowing into laboratories, careers and stars being made. The only way to be a successful scientist today is to follow consensus. If you're going to produce something and put it on the market you don't want any goddamn surprises. You've got the next quarter to report and you don't want any bad news. It's all about the short term now. Science has totally capitulated to corporate interests. Given their power and money, it's going to be very hard to work our way out of this.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at harpers.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aids; aidsdrugs; duesberg
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1 posted on 12/16/2007 6:00:11 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: DaveLoneRanger; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; metmom; PGalt; editor-surveyor; js1138; Coyoteman

Someone asked for a more recent paper...here it is—GGG


2 posted on 12/16/2007 6:01:23 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

bump


3 posted on 12/16/2007 6:10:12 PM PST by tje
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To: GodGunsGuts

Too much of what passes for science these days is mere statistical correlation, not cause-and-effect testing.


4 posted on 12/16/2007 6:12:20 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
“You can buy a tremendous amount of consensus for that kind of money.”

While I don't know that the money's in the same range, the same thing could be said for globull warming.

5 posted on 12/16/2007 6:19:15 PM PST by Bob
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To: GodGunsGuts
I'm not an expert on this subject and neither is GGG. My tendency to trust one source over another is based purely on the conservative principal that consumers have a vested interest in their own welfare and are therefore more likely than do-gooders to examine the available options and make rational choices.

GGG's creed is blatently anti-capitalist. It is Ralph Naderism at its finest. Big corporations are evil. Little guys who peddle vitamins and coffee enemas are good. It is so 1968.

Responses to Harper's Magazine's Out of Control


6 posted on 12/16/2007 6:41:11 PM PST by js1138
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To: GodGunsGuts
The Scandal of Poor Medical Research
University ranking systems seriously flawed
Fiction and Fantasy In Medical Research: The Large Scale Randomised Trial
Flaws are found in validating medical studies

The medical research process is profoundly damaged
7 posted on 12/16/2007 6:42:36 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: GodGunsGuts

http://www.tac.org.za/Documents/ErrorsInFarberArticle.pdf


8 posted on 12/16/2007 6:56:37 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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To: js1138

==GGG’s creed is blatently anti-capitalist.

Is the Hoover Institution’s “Policy Review” anti-capitalist?

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/pdpolicy.htm

Is Reason Magazine anti-capitalist?

http://www.duesberg.com/articles/kmreason.html

Is American Spectator anti-capitalist?

http://virusmyth.net/aids/data/tbafrica.htm

C’mon JS, even you aren’t that low. Surely you can do better than that?


9 posted on 12/16/2007 7:00:05 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: M. Dodge Thomas; js1138

Correcting Gallo: Rethinking AIDS Responds to Harper’s ‘Out of Control’ Critics

http://rethinkingaids.com/GalloRebuttal/overview.html


10 posted on 12/16/2007 7:01:09 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: HangnJudge

Don’t forget about this one!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937014/posts


11 posted on 12/16/2007 7:02:10 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: js1138
PS Why are you posting a bunch of leftist/gay activist links to refute Duesberg et al? Are these your preferred sources???
12 posted on 12/16/2007 7:05:17 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: js1138

Correcting Gallo: Rethinking AIDS Responds to Harper’s ‘Out of Control’ Critics

http://rethinkingaids.com/GalloRebuttal/overview.html


13 posted on 12/16/2007 7:06:15 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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Duesberg is a genius - and it’s not just him.

His former student, Mullis, invented PCR and the techniques used to “test for aids.”

Only HE says the tests they use are wrong - it doesn’t measure viral load of a specific virus. It measures lots of other stuff too!

Michael Chrichton also has a lot to say on this subject.


14 posted on 12/16/2007 7:07:11 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
PS Why are you posting a bunch of leftist/gay activist links to refute Duesberg et al? Are these your preferred sources???

I post them because one of your allies on this site claims the decline in AIDS mortality can be attributed to decline in treatment. I'm merely pointing out that the consumers for treatment are the ones with the strongest motive to examine the facts and make wise decisions.

I am not sympathetic to do-gooders who bash capitalism and assume that consumers are too stupid to make their own decisions.

15 posted on 12/16/2007 7:13:10 PM PST by js1138
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

:)

I’m so glad you said that! I keep repeating in my head — correlation doesn’t equal causation!


16 posted on 12/16/2007 7:18:10 PM PST by twinzmommy
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To: js1138

I just find it interesting that I post conservative articles re: AIDS and you post gay/liberal articles.


17 posted on 12/16/2007 7:31:52 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Bob

You are absolutely correct. The exact same thing is repeating itself re: the anti-human agenda driving global warming.


18 posted on 12/16/2007 7:33:05 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Bob
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19 posted on 12/16/2007 7:45:06 PM PST by Roccus (..........................FOR RENT......................)
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To: GodGunsGuts

He, like many of his kind, sold out and now they’re blaming us for believing them?

Let them eat yellow cake.


20 posted on 12/16/2007 7:48:06 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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