Bush backs nuclear fuel supply to Iran

jpost.com ^ | Dec 17, 2007 21:00 | Updated Dec 17, 2007 23:31 | By JPOST STAFF AND AP

[F15Eagle]

US President George W. Bush said on Monday he supported Russian shipments of nuclear fuel to Iran for civilian power, saying they proved that Teheran has no need to enrich uranium.

"If the Russians are willing to do that, which I support, then the Iranians do not need to learn how to enrich. If the Iranians accept that uranium for a civilian nuclear power plant, then there's no need for them to learn how to enrich," Bush said

Iran received the first shipment of nuclear fuel from Russia on Monday for its Bushehr reactor, the official Iranian news agency IRNA reported.

Russia has been assisting the Iranians in the construction of the nuclear power plant.

[F15Eagle]

"Help I'm stepping into the twilight zone
Place is a madhouse feels like being cloned
My beacon's been moved under moon and star
Where am I to go now that I've gone too far"

Sorry, song popped into my head when I read the headline ...

[F15Eagle]

fyi

[F15Eagle]

fyi, too

[boomop1]

Is George one of Hillary’s regular people?

[Uri’el-2012]

Yah'shua come soon !!

[F15Eagle]

He’d better. There’s a lot of weird stuff going on. 2008 will be quite the year, I do believe ...

[EternalVigilance]

Peace in our time...

/s

[coconutt2000]

Calling Iran’s bluff regarding its “civilian” nuclear program?

If this is a game of Texas Hold’em, then what cards is Bush holding, and does he have insight into the cards face down on the table...???

And if he’s gambling that Iran will make a fool of themselves, then he’s probably not too far off, but is he betting that the MSM will choose our side when the cards are down, because if he is, regardless of what Iran does, the end result is that the MSM will make the West look like big, bad imperialists.

Sometimes I think Bush misunderstands that the press is on the side of our enemies to the extent that the assumption must always be that we can beat the enemies’ forces into dust, and still lose the war of perception.

[G8 Diplomat]

US President George W. Bush said on Monday he supported Russian shipments of nuclear fuel to Iran for civilian power, saying they proved that Teheran has no need to enrich uranium.

He seriously believes Ahmadinejad will use nuclear fuel for peaceful purposes?? Let's just feed the beast, shall we? /s

[navyguy]

Can the Iranians take this Russian fuel and enrich it into bomb grade material?

If they can then Bush has completely lost his mind.

[RightWhale]

Can the Iranians take this Russian fuel and enrich it into bomb grade material?

Not easily. If Iran had a breeder reactor they could end up with plutonium, but they don't.

[JewishRighter]

"Bush backs nuclear fuel supply to Iran"

Here's the current Bush Iran policy summarized:

For simplicity, also refer to this image to understand latest Israeli/Pali policy.

[F15Eagle]

My immediate fear is a transfer to Syrian-backed Hezbollah, a dirty bomb built by suicide-wannabe’s who couldn’t care less about being irradiated for “allah” and then such transported to Tel Aviv or Haifa ...

When you have a country with a fruitcake Hitler-wannabe at the helm that wants to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth, endorsing nuclear fuel to the madman, from any source, seems pretty cut-and-dried what the result will be.

[F15Eagle]

definitely rather a bizarre headline to read today.

[r9etb]

Calling Iran’s bluff regarding its “civilian” nuclear program?

That's my take. Pretty good move, diplomatically and otherwise.

[r9etb]

He seriously believes Ahmadinejad will use nuclear fuel for peaceful purposes??

Probably just the opposite. The point is, if Iran refuses and continues to enrich on their own, then their "civilian purposes" canard is exposed.

[r9etb]

Can the Iranians take this Russian fuel and enrich it into bomb grade material? If they can then Bush has completely lost his mind.

They can enrich right now -- that's what all those centrifuges are for.

They claim they're enriching in order to create a civilian power generation capability. If Russia gives them the already-enriched fuel, then Iran has no "civilian" excuse for continuing to operate their centrifuges.

And thus, if they do continue, it's because they're interested in something other than electrical power. And if they refuse Russia's offer, then there is no way they can credibly deny the accusations of nefarious intent.

Either way, it puts Iran in the position of giving up on their ambitions for a bomb; or it makes clear that their denials to date have been false. Either way, it rachets up the pressure on them.

It's a clever move.

[F15Eagle]

That would make a war a necessity, no?

(which it virtually is anyways - if Iran continues it’s mullah-driven ways)

[JewishRighter]

OK. Show of hands: how many think the Iranians only plan to use the uranium for peaceful purposes?

I don't see any hands. Thought so.

[F15Eagle]

agreed

[JewishRighter]

Calling Iran’s bluff regarding its “civilian” nuclear program?
That’s my take. Pretty good move, diplomatically and otherwise.

Please explain. How would this work? After Iran actually develops the bomb, the next president gets to say: “Hah! I told you they wuz workin’ on a bomb!” What exactly would we do then. Seems the bluff is like Russian roullette with a bullet in every chamber.

[r9etb]

That would make a war a necessity, no?

Perhaps .... there are possibly ways short of war. Ahneedajihad's got some exceedingly nasty domestic problems to deal with, and one suspects that it wouldn't be all that hard to foment some meaningful internal unrest.

Of course, that route could lead to some very unpredictable results. A war is probably a lot more predictable in terms of what will happen "after."

[tlj18]

OK. Show of hands: how many think the Iranians only plan to use the uranium for peaceful purposes?

I don't see any hands. Thought so.

Hands down!

[ronnie raygun]

Let us help the islamo facists kill us sooner! Nice move there GW, This election can’t come sooner!

[r9etb]

Please explain. How would this work? After Iran actually develops the bomb....

You skipped a few steps, which leaves you without options. We're not there yet.

I seriously doubt that anybody -- Bush especially -- has any doubt about Iran's real goals. The question is, how do you deal with those goals given the current state of play?

IF Iran accepts Russia's offer, and actually stops their enrichment program, the game is over.

Any step that has them continuing to enrich, is a tell-tale for military intent, which argues for action against Iran.

That's what this move is intended to expose.

[West Coast Conservative]

Wasn’t this Kerry’s plan in 2004?

[tlj18]

Iran could claim (correctly) that they want to evolve away from having to depend on Russia or anyone else for their nuclear fuel. However, we all know that's not the whole story.

And it's a good move by Bush.

[ryan71]

If we take this and add it to the latest intelligence report...something’s up. Why the sudden “180” on Iran policy?

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[joe fonebone]

i guess this will be misunderstood by most people of lower IQ’s.....if they import the stuff that is power plant grade, they do not need centrifuges to enrich the raw stuff...if they continue to buy, build, and run said centrifuges, it would be considered very close to an act of war.....ball is in their court, next move will be by at least 3 carrier groups...

[JewishRighter]

Any step that has them continuing to enrich, is a tell-tale for military intent, which argues for action against Iran.

I think you're leaving out the prospect that, with the uranium in hand, they can go forward with an enrichment program and, here's the shocking part, NOT TELL ANYONE.

[familyop]

I told you all as to what is going on. And yes, Iran can use that light water plant to build nukes. It's one approach among several that Iran is taking.

[Mogollon]

I think you're leaving out the prospect that, with the uranium in hand, they can go forward with an enrichment program and, here's the shocking part, NOT TELL ANYONE. Even if that's the case and our spies are too inept to discover what's going on (thanks to the Clinton administration), maybe the Israili Masaad will let us know.

[Kakaze]

Why, are we supposed to trust the Russians to only ship civilian grade material?

I know that Dubya, looked into to Putins eyes, but I'm a "ole" Reagan guy.....wheres the trust but verify?

Please tell me its not the IAEA and El Bearida ( sp)

[JewishRighter]

"Even if that's the case and our spies are too inept to discover what's going on (thanks to the Clinton administration), maybe the Israili Masaad will let us know."

You make a good point. However, if the Israeli Mosad is letting our spies know, how come they're getting it so wrong?

[gpapa]

In the Mullahs you trust?

[DocRock]

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[DocRock]

"OK. Show of hands: how many think the Iranians only plan to use the uranium for peaceful purposes?"



/sarc

[Salem]

A client I discourse with extensively on foreign affairs, and my Mom, have been pestering me to read New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman's "The World Is Flat" ever since it was published. I finally did, when my Mom gave me hers Thanksgiving Day. It was ... interesting. Outside of knowing well Friedman's loony, deluded happy-talk and the realization that this man—representing progressive liberalism's global "community" ideas—has such massive influence with the global elite, was very disturbing. Nonetheless, it was revealing the massive economic and political pressure that the U.S. government is operating under today, in contending with the rest of the world.

Some of the posters on this thread are wargaming Bush and second guessing his intentions. I think with the current state of the U.S. economy, the weak dollar, and the economic vulnerabilities we are dealing with because of the massive trade imbalance with China, along with our energy dependence, the Administration planners are re-evaluating the repercussions of overt action against Iran—and by proxy, Russia—at this time.

As you have all read recently, Israel has taken note of that.

Christians, specifically, are taught "... that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty...." [I Tim. 2:1-2]

Today, more that ever before, it is critical we engage in this in behalf of our fallible, fickle leaders. They are mere men, dealing with events and trends which can have catastrophic results for us, Israel, and the rest of the world.

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"...That the totalitarian force pitted against freedom wears a religious makes this civil war among mankind all the more difficult to engage. Loving freedom as we do, it seems reprehensible to deliberate against a religion. But this is no ordinary religion as it demands absolute obedience of all to their religion at the cost of freedom itself." [FReeper Backtothestreets]

[dragnet2]

I totally trust the Russians and Iranians...

:o

[dragnet2]

Peace in our time...

Yeah we're planning out next vacation to Tehran..We'll be flying in on El Al...I'm personally looking forward to going to the Llama races.

[jveritas]

The answer is absolutely NOT. It is against Physics. I think some of us need to read the article before they go crazy on President Bush, I did not mean you in case navyguy. The President is telling the terrorist regime in Iran since you accepted non nuclear grade fuel then you must stop enriching uranium which can be used for nuclear weapons, exactly what he has been saying all along.

[jveritas]

non nuclear grade = non nuclear weapon grade.

[familyop]

"I think with the current state of the U.S. economy, the weak dollar, and the economic vulnerabilities we are dealing with because of the massive trade imbalance with China, along with our energy dependence, the Administration planners are re-evaluating the repercussions of overt action against Iran—and by proxy, Russia—at this time."

The high dollar in this global economy is the reason for the trade deficit and for our leadership's green light to Iran's nuclear buildup and subsequent proliferation to its friends. ...the relatively high dollar and the fears of higher oil prices. We won't take a chance on rationing oil, even to save us from a near-future, worldwide nuclear exchange.

Besides, only Israel is threatened by the nuclear buildup, according to the propaganda...er, media releases sponsored by leaders of our import economy.

[familyop]

"OK. Show of hands: how many think the Iranians only plan to use the uranium for peaceful purposes?"

[Importers and merchants, considering higher oil and subsequently higher freight fuel prices along with a lower dollar, go into their closets and raise their hands.]

[444Flyer]

The guy has officially gone Woody.

[444Flyer]

He is at the door! (How do you say Wahooooooooooooo!!! in Hebrew?)

Seriously, His return is upon us. Do not fall into the end time deception which is occuring now (2 Thessalonians 2:11). Is everyone ready for Him?

Shalom b’Shem Yah’shua

[montag813]

Is December 17, 2007 the "Day the Bush Doctrine Died"?

Today we...

1. Approved of the transfer of nuclear fuel to the biggest sponsor of terrorism on the planet,

2. Offered $555 million in funding to the Palestinian Terror Authority

[444Flyer]

Prayers are up for our leaders, however, when a government turns to this type of wickedness we are to expose it (Ephesians 5:11-12).

[r9etb]

Why, are we supposed to trust the Russians to only ship civilian grade material?

Because MAD worked for the Russians -- they're cold and calculating, but they're not stupid. Look at how many Islamic countries/regions are either on or inside their borders, and you'll see why Russia wouldn't do something that stupid.