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GOP candidate Rep. Duncan Hunter's quiet campaign
Monsters and Critics ^ | December 16, 2007 | By M&C US News

Posted on 12/19/2007 4:17:27 AM PST by Man50D

Republican presidential hopeful, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., like candidates Tancredo, Dodd, Biden and Kucinich, does not get a whole lot of press.

His supporters aren't flying blimps or sashaying Oprah on the stage. The Vietnam veteran began his career in politics at age 32, being elected to the U.S. House of Representatives.

Rep. Duncan Hunter has stated in previous interviews his political hero is the late President, Ronald Reagan, and has steadfastly sought more resources for the military.

Hunter has backed the President on every Iraq vote.

Reporter James Lynch notes that Hunter "silenced the war critics two years ago when he introduced a resolution calling for the deployment of troops to Iraq to end immediately. He opposed the resolution but made his point that the majority of House members supported the war. His resolution was defeated, 403-3."

Hunter, 59, is one of the few politicians who has a child that has served in the armed forces in Iraq. His perspctive is unique as a veteran and parent of an active service member.

On the issues he is a traditional Republican, he votes conservatively on social and fiscal issues.

Hunter was on record opposing NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) and the normalization of trade relations with China.

With regards to immigration, Hunter, whose district includes eastern San Diego, is reportedly a supporter of building fences along the Mexican border.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; duncanhunter; elections; hunter; immigration; trade
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To: Cricket24

yes, it is really too bad that Duncan Hunter hasn’t caught on...he would be an excellent candidate.


51 posted on 12/19/2007 5:26:43 AM PST by Auntie Toots (The GOP is still the best we've got.....AND THAT USED TO BE THE TRUTH)
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To: Man50D

Presidential Candidate, Duncan L. Hunter is on the left.

Did you know?



52 posted on 12/19/2007 5:28:33 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Man50D

The funny thing is, Man50D, if Hunter started rising in those very same polls, if over the space of a few weeks he went from 1% to 2% then 3% then 5%, you know who would be posting the results here in FR — with exclamations of delight — you, that’s who. And pissant. And you know it. But it ain’t happenin’, ain’t gonna happen, and so you trash the polls. Fine.

For the record, if I got asked by a pollster TODAY who I support, I would say Hunter, just because he IS the most conservative and I WOULD like to give him as much of a chance as possible.

But when primary day comes around in my state, and if Thomspon still has some kind of reasonable chance of making a credible showing and Hunter is still down in the 1% range, then I tell you, I’m voting for the more ELECTABLE conservative of the two.


53 posted on 12/19/2007 5:28:44 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Cricket24

I agree. That is obvious.


54 posted on 12/19/2007 5:29:04 AM PST by Jane Austen
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To: Man50D

“Reportedly”? LOL.


55 posted on 12/19/2007 5:30:26 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Axeslinger

Copy and past anything I posted to the samtheman. Copy and paste any post I made that mentioned the word troll. Copy and paste anything disparaging I made to you.

Can’t do it? Then you are a liar.


56 posted on 12/19/2007 5:30:39 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

My utmost apologies C...the troll inference came from Cripplecreek. Your posts were all kept in the spirit of fun that most of this thread has been. Again, my apologies.


57 posted on 12/19/2007 5:34:47 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Axeslinger

Thank you.

Bump

You are not a liar and that was big of you.


58 posted on 12/19/2007 5:36:23 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
You guys are all wound too tightly though!

:o)

59 posted on 12/19/2007 5:37:54 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Axeslinger

I prefer passionate.


60 posted on 12/19/2007 5:38:58 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: airborne
It’s the “I won’t vote for him because he can’t win because I won’t vote for him” syndrome.

No, it's not. It's realizing that someone who wakes up one morning with no national name recognition, no national organization, and no reliable means of raising funds who nevertheless decides that they want to run for President is someone who simply isn't ready for the job.

61 posted on 12/19/2007 5:40:15 AM PST by kevkrom (All those in favor of Thompson, don't raise your hand.)
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To: Man50D
"Hunter was on record opposing NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) and the normalization of trade relations with China."

Unlike FRed and the rest of the field who wish to pander to communist China (all in the name of "free trade" - trade with our ALLIES not communists) as well as allow millions of illegals to roam free in the US, although the law clearly states a fence SHALL BE built and illegals deported.

62 posted on 12/19/2007 6:07:49 AM PST by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: kevkrom

Yeah, thanks for all your help.

I wonder who you’ll settle for. Or what.


63 posted on 12/19/2007 6:09:52 AM PST by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: airborne
Yeah, thanks for all your help. I wonder who you’ll settle for. Or what.

I'm not "settling" for anyone. But neither do I pin my hopes on a vanity candidate who has no idea how to run a national campaign, nor any apparent plan on how to overcome the other obstacles in his way.

Hunter's failure to recognize and properly respond to these problems indicates that he is not prepared for the job, even if by some crazy happenstance he manages to land into it.

64 posted on 12/19/2007 6:17:36 AM PST by kevkrom (All those in favor of Thompson, don't raise your hand.)
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To: kevkrom
I'm not "settling" for anyone.

Good for you.

Neither am I.

Merry Christmas!

65 posted on 12/19/2007 6:25:41 AM PST by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: samtheman
...you would certainly say to the pollster: "I like Duncan Hunter".

Actually, in every conversation where I find someone who has heard of Duncan Hunter (and yes, HEARING of him is important), the response I get is "Duncan is clearly the best candidate but he doesn't have a chance so I'm supporting..."

See tagline for my response.

66 posted on 12/19/2007 6:28:45 AM PST by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: Man50D

HUNTER/THOMPSON 2008!! Let’s get this thing rolling and maybe it will take hold, ya think?


67 posted on 12/19/2007 8:19:55 AM PST by debboo (Stop socialism, vote conservative)
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To: samtheman

“You can’t blame Hunter’s failure to rise on the press.”

Sure you can. When the MSM shows their news of the debates, etc. , you can’t find Hunter in the photos even when you’re looking for him! He is the best kept secret of the MSM. They don’t want the public knowing there is a candidate who opposes lop sided trade with China and actually has done something to secure the borders. But Huckabee...he’s ALL over the MSM.


68 posted on 12/19/2007 9:26:40 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
ditto, he's invisible to them...

It's not whining to point out the obvious...the MSM & even FOX continue to ignore him....seldom quote him...hardly ever give him credit for anything.

..He's the real-deal conservative, not some dreamed up RINO, so he's not acceptable to the 'powers that be'....

We, the people, have decided otherwise however.

69 posted on 12/19/2007 9:34:33 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Guenevere

An interesting take by a blogger:

http://dhgrassrevolt.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/tancredo-keyes-and-hunter-all-gaining-steam/


70 posted on 12/19/2007 9:47:38 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Man50D

I think when they poll, they say whom do you support on the primary: Guiliani, McCain, Romney, Huckabee or any of the others? Would not surprise me so Hunter would not show on the radar.

Oh well, I am voting for him in the primary regardless. In the primary is when I get to vote for the candidate that reflects my views and Hunter is the man.


71 posted on 12/19/2007 9:49:39 AM PST by lone star annie (Duncan Hunter will put America First Always)
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To: Cricket24

Yes, I kind of like Hunter versus Obama. Wouldn’t that be fun.


72 posted on 12/19/2007 10:18:50 AM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: AuntB

A break-out candidate breaks out of the stranglehold the press keeps on the news. By definition.


73 posted on 12/19/2007 1:25:01 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Axeslinger

Interesting. When Hunter supporters do the same thing, their comments get removed from Thompson threads.

Maybe we’re not the ones who are wound up so tight.

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts


74 posted on 12/19/2007 4:23:57 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: samtheman

This is just a guess mind you, but I think that Hunter’s one great failing is his dourness. He’s not a bright and happy fellow. Most of the other candidates are much better at putting on the phony Tony Robins informercial face, and apparently, it sells.


75 posted on 12/19/2007 6:33:13 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Man50D
Ann Coulter was just on H&C again saying she was for DUNCAN HUNTER!!!

ANN IS RIGHT!!!

76 posted on 12/19/2007 6:33:41 PM PST by NordP (Such tough choices ahead, I'm now a "middle of the road" voter--somewhere between RUSH & Savage ;-))
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To: Man50D
Sorry for the misinterpretation and good for you but I take media polls with a grain of salt.

It's a good thing to take the polls with a grain of salt, but foolish to disregard them altogether because they aren't telling you what you want to hear. You're fond of bring up Gore and Bush, knowing that in reality the polls were well within the margin of error even though Gore was called and not Bush.

You're also fond of bring up the 1948 election where Eisenhower defeated Dewey, despite most of the press calling it for Dewey before the election, and the Chicago Tribune calling for Dewey even after the election. All true, no one would take that away from you.

However, like Gore v. Bush, it was a close race. Eisenhower beat Dewey by less than 5% of the vote. In hunter's case, you're asking everyone to believe that the polls are off by greater than 40%. Show me any American election where the polls were so gravely in error. Don't waste too much time though, it doesn't exist.

77 posted on 12/19/2007 6:41:12 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Man50D

When the media tires of the other candidates, they will place DUNCAN HUNTER front and center.


78 posted on 12/19/2007 6:42:56 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Vaquero
Thompson/Hunter '08
80 posted on 12/19/2007 6:51:25 PM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: NordP
Ann Coulter was just on H&C again saying she was for DUNCAN HUNTER!!!

Excellent! For Duncan Hunter and from Connecticut. What more could I ask for? ;O)
81 posted on 12/19/2007 7:26:44 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
When the media tires of the other candidates, they will place DUNCAN HUNTER front and center.

They're increasingly attacking each other in an all out effort to prove they are more Conservative than one another. Meanwhile Hunter proceeds with his message knowing he doesn't have to prove he is Conservative.
82 posted on 12/19/2007 7:29:59 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Melas
However, like Gore v. Bush, it was a close race. Eisenhower beat Dewey by less than 5% of the vote. In hunter's case, you're asking everyone to believe that the polls are off by greater than 40%.

I won't dispute the percentage you cite as I don't have any data to confirm or refute that figure I will dispute Eisenhower beating Dewey as it was Truman who beat Dewey. Eisenhower won the 1952 election. My point about these polls is that they were wrong so late in the process. Consequently considering we are far earlier in the process it is much too soon for anyone to make any assumptions or conclusions.
83 posted on 12/19/2007 7:39:12 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Man50D
I won't dispute the percentage you cite as I don't have any data to confirm or refute that figure I will dispute Eisenhower beating Dewey as it was Truman who beat Dewey. Eisenhower won the 1952 election. My point about these polls is that they were wrong so late in the process. Consequently considering we are far earlier in the process it is much too soon for anyone to make any assumptions or conclusions.

Lol. My bad. Correct figures, correct election, wrong president. This has to go down as one of the best (worst) FR blunders yet. Of course you're right, it was Truman. He won with 49.6% of the vote to Dewey's 45.1% Strom Thurmond was the wannabe spoiler of the age with 2.4%

I agree with you that polls are only worth so much, but when polls show something overwhelming (like single digits) they're never wrong. Obviously the pollsters, spinmeisters or not, have to maintain some modicum of credibility, and they simply can't be laughed off the stage with a 44% error. It's just not going to happen. 44% is my guess btw at the minimum ground that Hunter would have to make up to win this thing.

I know you guys want him to win, but c'mon, 44% six weeks from Super Tuesday? Unless Thompson, Romney and Guiliani are found in a homosexual 3-way being filmed by an illegal alien photographer while handing off state secrets to Putin's albino lover, it ain't gonna be sensational enough for anyone in the race to lose that much ground, to Hunter or anyone else.

84 posted on 12/19/2007 9:02:17 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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