Skip to comments.Tancredo Scuttle (Tom Tancredo drops out tomorrow, endorsement up-in-the-air)
Posted on 12/19/2007 1:18:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The scuttle is:
Rep. Tom Tancredo will drop out of the presidential race tomorrow and endorse either Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson.... neither of those candidates know who, just yet.
But the scuttle is probably wrong. Tancredo has been critical of all his opponents, and, given his issue's saliency, he does not need to endorse. His party sounds like him, now, on immigration.
(Excerpt) Read more at marcambinder.theatlantic.com ...
He should endorse the honest one - Hunter.
I like Congressman Hunter, but that would be wasting his endorsement.
... neither of those candidates
knowknows who, just yet.
If he endorses Hunter, then if Hunter loses, he can endorse someone else, and how would that be wasting his endorsement?
Tancredo will likely do the same.
He will endorse, but perhaps not right away.
I’d imagine Tancredo will endorse Thompson. Romney, I’d imagine, is a bit to soft on immigration for Tancredo’s liking.
I managed to catch Fred Thompson in Cedar Rapids this morning. Even got to hear him explain his (continuing) belief in (most of) McCain-Feingold. I must admit, his justification was pretty good.
If Tancredo withdraws, Fred Thompson has my vote.
How can you waste something of little or no value?
Hate to all Safire on you, but its scuttlebutt, which refers to a barrel of water that served on an 18th-century sea-going ship as both ballast and a source of fresh water for the crew. From which the term descends to a reference to a water fountain or water cooler, around which gossip may be exchanged.
I’ll vote for Thompson if Hunter becomes his running mate.
Bet's are on a concession announcement. No consensus on any endorsement.
Will he take the other one-percenters with him....?
Tancredo — I want to thank you for getting into the race. I helped you get there because we needed illegal immigration to stop being the elephant in the middle of the debate that no one mentioned. Thanks in part to you, it has been a very important part of the campaign.
Please throw your support to Thompson. I do not believe he will ever let you down. I am hoping and praying that if he is our nominee he will choose Hunter as his veep.
Just thinking here...
He’s been in the race for so long now it seems only right for him to stick it out thru Iowa and New Hampshire.
Unless he’s doing it now so he can have some leverage in determining who’ll win both states.
TOM-TOM GONE.......We hardly knew ye..........
Whatever. I’ll believe it when I see. Post 08’ election, if the Repubs win, look for Amnesty round 2.
Now that you mention it, as I sat listening to Thompson this morning, I remembered his health history and wondered who he would pick for veep.
That is the ticket I want to see, or Thompson/Tancrado would work too
Its probably the last day before Christmas that you can make any big news that people will pay attention to.
What did he say about McCain-Feingold?
And, in a stunning turn of events, Tancredo joins the founder of the Minuteman in endorsing Huckabee ...... :)
To scuttle is to intentionally self-sink a boat, so it may be an appropriate use.
“Ill vote for Thompson if Hunter becomes his running mate.”
Impossible. Surely you have heard of balancing the ticket? Thompson will be thought of as quite conservative by the majority of the electorate. Did Reagan pick a conservative for VP? No, he did not, he picked a Rockyfeller Republican.
Bush II ran as a compassionate (moderate) conservative, and picked a strong conserative with a lot of experience to balance his lack of same.
Rudy, Romney or Huckabee would pick a guy like Hunter. Fred would probably look for a candidate who could bring in a big state, and be seen as moderate.
Hunter will be up for a top cabinet position.
Yes, I know, you don’t like any of this at all.
And that means the Christmas holiday to talk things over with family and friends. Good point.
If he endorses Flip Romney, I’ll lose every ounce of respect I currently have for the man.
Be nice to see both Tancredo and Hunter drop out and support Thompson with the idea that Tancredo will be in charge of INS and Hunter in charge of Homeland Security/fence building.
(P.S. I’ve been a Hunter supporter and am not really happy with ANY of the others)
People also don’t pick running mates that can’t deliver their home state, at least. Hunter obviously can’t.
People need to forget their Hunter-VP fantasies.
You don't think he'll follow Pat Robertson's lead and endorse Rude-de.
What does the endorsement matter? It’s not like he’s got a vast army of supporters.
People need to forget their Hunter-VP fantasies.
Agreed. Those fantasies are the fallback postion from their original hopes for Hunter. At least they are headed in the right direction (down-ticket).
Probably so. And I doubt Romney feels he needs this particular endorsement, although I’m certain he wouldn’t mind having it.
On the other hand, Tancredo and Romney do share a common thread on illegal immigration, as they both were attacked by the liberal media for hiring companies that sent illegal workers to their houses.
My guess he will endorse Fred just like his Buddy in Iowa, Steve King.
I’ll bet Tanc was pissed when Gilchrist endorsed Huckabilly and would like to knock some wind out of those sails.
It would be a politically smart move for Tank at this point.
I don’t think he will, but I wish he would just so I could watch the mitt-haters all tell me how liberal and a sellout he is.
Well, Bush wasn’t really worried about picking up Wyoming when he added Cheney to the ticket.
Thompson would be the kind of guy that might pick the best person, not the expedient one.
But that might not be any of the current candidates.
BTW, since Thompson really likes McCain, I wouldn’t rule out a Thompson/McCain ticket. And I wouldn’t dismiss the possibility that McCain wouldn’t go ahead and serve as VP for his good friend — I don’t think McCain would do so for anybody else.
But he has a few very strong and involved supporters, and that might help Thompson because Thompson did come late to the game.
But he doesn’t help Thompson on the ISSUE, because Thompson is already considered a reasonable choice for immigration. So he probably would help Romney more in that regard — even though he wouldn’t bring anything organizationally that Romney could use.
I'll try to summarize his lengthy answer as best I can.
Basically, he said most of us agree there must be *some* limits on campaign contributions to candidates ("even Barry Goldwater was for that"). But, the traditional $1000 per person per candidate was too low; it favored incumbents because it made it very hard for a challenger to get any traction.
Meanwhile, soft contributions were just a back door way of corrupting the system. So, he used McCain-Feingold to increase the per-person contribution limit while at the same time fixing much of what was wrong with soft money.
He also said in retrospect, the limits on advertising were the wrong thing to do and should not have been in the bill.
I'm sure I didn't do justice to his reasoning. LinnKeyes2000 was there, too; hopefully, he'll see this and can do better.
A retiring Congressman does not usually endorse until the writing is clear on the wall and the nomination is in hand. Then he endorses and hopes for a job offer if the nominee wins.
The biggest states are irredeemably Blue.
Unless you think Rudy as Veep could bring in NY ?
The only national figures from CA are Arnold who is ineligible and Hunter who doesn’t balance the ticket according to your view.
What does that leave ?
FL has Jeb, but a Bush on the ticket would turn away independents.
TX ? Maybe Ron Paul as Veep ?
Agreed on the biggest states. Rudy won’t take the Veep position, his ego is too big. Who is this Ron Paul you mention? Does he have a last name?
I don’t have a sense of who Fred would tap for VP. But it won’t be someone just like himself. Reagan balanced his ticket geographically, politically and experience-wise. Bush I was an excellent VP choice for Reagan.
I imagine Fred would do something similar.
It doesn’t matter to me. If someone I support drops out...that candidate doesn’t own me. I’ll decide for myself who to switch my support to.
VP? Not hardly. If I’m going with the long shot , it’s going to be for first place.
like the highly valued brownback endorsement?
“Well, Bush wasnt really worried about picking up Wyoming when he added Cheney to the ticket.”
Correct, Cheney was picked to add experience, and to balance George’s “compassionate” (moderate) conservatism. In the Republican party, a moderate presidential candidate picks a conserative VP (Quayle, Cheney) while a conservative candidate picks a moderate (Bush I, picked by Reagan). People have forgotten that Bush didn’t run as a strong conservative, which explains why they are so upset when he takes moderate positions. They created a Bush in their minds that was a fantasy.
You might want to send that to the author, Abminder at Atlantic.
It’s about time some of these minor leaguers dropped out and left the race to the frontrunners.