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Has global warming stopped?
New Zealand Climate Science Coalition ^ | December 21, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 12/20/2007 9:41:33 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger

An assertion by the former science editor of the BBC, David Whitehouse in the reputable British journal New Statesman that global warming has stopped, should be taken very seriously by the world's climate science community, according to Bryan Leyland, of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition. Mr Leyland recently led a team of international skeptics to Bali for the UNFCC conference on climate change.

"David Whitehouse is no lightweight in the climate debate, and the New Statesman is not known for sensationalism, so an article in that journal saying that the global temperature of 2007 is statistically the same as 2006 as well as every year since 2001 is the basis for his claim that global warming has stopped has created quite a serious problem for those who believe than manmade greenhouse gases cause global warming. This is not what the climate models predicted. However it is in line with recent research and radiosonde data that fails to shows the heating of the upper atmosphere that identifies warming by greenhouse gases. So we need to know why the models failed to predict that warming would stop and why they predict an upper atmosphere warming that is not happening.

"There are many climate scientists in the world who endorse the observation of Mr Whitehouse that Global warming has, temporarily or permanently, ceased. Temperatures across the world are not increasing as they should according to the fundamental theory behind global warming - the greenhouse effect. Something else is happening and it is vital that we find out what or else we may spend hundreds of billions of pounds needlessly, " said Mr Leyland.

He added that anyone who still believes that the science is settled, as claimed by the IPCC and so many politicians and taxpayer funded bureaucrats, should read Mr Whitehouse's article in full in the New Statesman. The text is freely available on the internet at: http://www.newstatesman.com/200712190004

"Any doubts about the fact that the whole climate change issue is being mishandled by governments have been reinforced by Professor David Henderson, former head of the Economic Unit of OECD, now a visiting professor at Westminster University, whose recent illuminating address to the American Institute for Economic Research, which can be found on our website: http://www.climatescience.org.nz ," said Mr Leyland.


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KEYWORDS: agw; debunkinggore; globalwarming
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1 posted on 12/20/2007 9:41:34 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Temperatures have dropped .2 degrees since 1998.


2 posted on 12/20/2007 9:42:31 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

Yeah, but it’s just a temporary decrease. They will start again any moment now, on the inexorable march to a fried planet.

Al Gore told me so.


3 posted on 12/20/2007 9:44:49 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: TBP

And Al is a NOBEL PRIZE WINNER!


4 posted on 12/20/2007 9:45:23 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: DaveLoneRanger

The polar bears where having a Christmas party tonight on the Discovery channel.

I wonder if they can predict how soon global cooling hysteria will begin?


5 posted on 12/20/2007 9:46:08 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Too late. Bush just banned SUVs and my incandescent bulbs. What a dimwit.


6 posted on 12/20/2007 9:46:24 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

“NObel” and “Prize” each hve 5 letters, a 5-letter word bein a real achievement for Hypcoite Algore.


7 posted on 12/20/2007 9:47:23 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

Global Warming has stopped.
Global cooling has now begun. I foresee snowshovel shortages, a run on flannel, and a panic about the price of heating oil. Miami will have 5 feet of snow... in the summer. Polar bears will roam the streets of New York. Penguins will become the State Bird of Iowa. George Bush will be blamed for it. Hillary will claim she knew it all along.


8 posted on 12/20/2007 9:47:36 PM PST by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: texianyankee; JayB; markman46; palmer; Bahbah; Paradox; FOG724; Mike Darancette; GreenFreeper; ...

**Announcement**

I will be officially resigning my volunteer commission as head of the Global Warming Ping list, and turning you over to the very capable hands of Tolerance Sucks Rocks, whom you've already gotten to know through his assistance with the pings.

I always knew I wouldn't be able to maintain this many lists, and that one or more of the others would take a higher priority. (For example, I'm making many strides in the field of defending the Second Amendment, and was on a local radio station just this morning, talking with the host and a state legislator about new legislation in favor of concealed carry on state campuses, which you may hear about in a month or two.)

It's been fun to laugh together at the foolishness of the alarmist chicken littles, and watch some of them be caught in their deception, and to watch Father Al slosh on-stage to receive a Nobel, and all the rest. I'll still be hanging around and posting, of course, but please in the future, if you want an article to appear on the ping list, send your pings to Tolerance Sucks Rocks to make sure they get there...I'll only be sending any pings I get along to him.

Merry Christmas, y'all, and stay warm this winter!


9 posted on 12/20/2007 9:49:31 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (May your days be merry and bright, and may all your Christmases be white.)
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To: irishtenor
Global Warming has stopped.
Global cooling has now begun.

As you would expect. It's been a cycle of warming and cooling for as long as the Earth has been here and will be for as long as the Earth remains here. While there is little doubt that we have been in a warming trend, we now may be moving into the cooling part of the cycle, as you stated.

Either way, it's not a big deal.

10 posted on 12/20/2007 9:50:10 PM PST by TBP
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To: DaveLoneRanger
It won't be much longer before An Inconvenient Truth has the same level of credibility as Reefer Madness does.
11 posted on 12/20/2007 9:52:07 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Has global warming stopped?

You'll have to check with al gore.

Presumably, when the law of diminishing returns sets in, it will be deemed to have been effectively reversed, and other subject will have been found for the Big Pimp.

12 posted on 12/20/2007 9:52:36 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (whose spirit is hillary channelling these days?)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

How could it have stopped when it never really started?


13 posted on 12/20/2007 9:52:46 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: TBP

NOT A BIG DEAL???

The price of flannel is going to go through the roof! Quilters will go on strike for better working conditions! Cats and dogs sold as footwarmers on the black market!
Chicken noodle soup will come frozen with a stick in it!

Not a big deal?


14 posted on 12/20/2007 9:52:59 PM PST by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
This is not what the climate models predicted.

What the climate models have predicted (a rapid rise of temperature in the tropical troposphere leading to global warming) has never taken place. This means that everything that is supposed to be a consequence of that must have other causes.
15 posted on 12/20/2007 9:53:59 PM PST by aruanan
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To: TBP

In the very recent past (couple millions years) we see periods of ice, and warmth, that go in 90,000/10,000 cycles with ice and warmth respectivly. The last ice age ended 10,000 years ago.


16 posted on 12/20/2007 9:55:03 PM PST by LukeL
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To: DaveLoneRanger
An assertion ... that global warming has stopped, should be taken very seriously by the world's climate science community,

It's much worse now though. Now we are faced with global itching caused by all the rubber from the tires on our cars. The tsunami of 2005 was an example of Mother Earth Scratching herself. Don't worry,though. If we set up a global governing body, everything will be fine.

17 posted on 12/20/2007 9:58:11 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Are we doomed?


18 posted on 12/20/2007 10:01:28 PM PST by neodad (USS Wabash (AOR 5) The Wabash Cannonball)
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To: AlaskaErik

Hope you’re right but stories about folks like this moron are not encouraging:

http://tinyurl.com/2b79yf (From the Napa (CA) Valley Register today.


19 posted on 12/20/2007 10:05:02 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I promise to increase my carbon footprint, to drive needlessly trying to find a closer parking space, to idle my car to warm it up on cold days, to barbecue animal carcass, to have campfires even when I am not camping so that I can do my part to save global warming. A warm globe is a happy globe I say!


20 posted on 12/20/2007 10:06:27 PM PST by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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To: neodad

Need you ask?


21 posted on 12/20/2007 10:06:49 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
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22 posted on 12/20/2007 10:08:27 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: irishtenor
"Global Warming has stopped.
Global cooling has now begun. "

That is why "Global Warming" is no longer PC. The threat is now "Climate Change". Try telling anyone there is no climate change.

I know for a fact that the days are getting shorter.

yitbos

23 posted on 12/20/2007 10:13:59 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. - Ayn Rand")
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To: Dick Vomer
Mmmm- penguin on a spit.

Did those bears travel all the way to the south pole or did that penguin wander up to the north pole?

24 posted on 12/20/2007 10:15:56 PM PST by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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To: neodad
Are we doomed?
Yes.
25 posted on 12/20/2007 10:20:15 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (May your days be merry and bright, and may all your Christmases be white.)
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To: TBP

I don’t know what Hypcoite means, but “NObel Hypcoite Algore” or “Hypcoite Algore Prize” or some combinations of the set, each have 19 letters. Even if you count it from back to front. And that is groovy maaa..n. - gives me the goose bumps.


26 posted on 12/20/2007 10:20:35 PM PST by PoParma
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To: bruinbirdman

THE DAYS ARE GETTING SHORTER???????

It’s a good thing that the days are getting longer in Australia to balance things out :>)


27 posted on 12/20/2007 10:20:57 PM PST by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

28 posted on 12/20/2007 10:23:55 PM PST by sourcery (If Hillary is the next President, she may also be the last.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
So we need to know why the models failed to predict that warming would stop and why they predict an upper atmosphere warming that is not happening.

I will give it a shot to answer that one... God is in control of the heavens and earth... including weather and climate change... NOT MAN!

It seems to me that God must also have a pretty good sense of humor and is trying to show all these morons who think they have it all figured out, that they really don't know half of what they think they do. Just think about it... In the past couple years it has snowed on global warming summits numerous times, two highly active hurricane seasons in a row have completely fizzled and most recently a global warming eco cruise ship hit an iceberg and sunk to the bottom of the sea leaving a gigantic carbon footprint in the previously pristine antarctic... Not to mention the marine diesel that will leak and pollute for many years to come. That is just 3 quick examples off the top of my head, the list could get pretty long with minimal thought put into it.

In one of the last conversations I had with my grandfather about the end of time, before he went home to walk the streets of gold two years ago, he said he believed the Anti-Christ was already walking the earth and I am really starting to wonder if Algore is indeed the Anti-Christ. He has over half the world following him in his religion of global warming and then to top if off, he sits at the top of the pyramid, collecting the lions share, selling carbon credits.

In ElRushbo's words, "Follow the Money!"
29 posted on 12/20/2007 10:31:24 PM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: irishtenor
Global Warming has stopped. Global cooling has now begun.

Exactly why the term "Global Warming" is being phased out and replaced by "Climate Change"
30 posted on 12/20/2007 10:33:52 PM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: DaveLoneRanger

( Has global warming stopped? ) yeah, when Al Gore shuts his hot air mouth.


31 posted on 12/20/2007 10:37:46 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: aruanan
Tropical tropospheric trends

Requires dedication to grasp all of the subtle errors of the paper. Give it a shot.

32 posted on 12/20/2007 10:40:10 PM PST by cogitator
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To: TBP
Temperatures have dropped .2 degrees since 1998.

See my profile, point #4.

33 posted on 12/20/2007 10:41:50 PM PST by cogitator
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To: AlaskaErik

“It won’t be much longer before An Inconvenient Truth has the same level of credibility as Reefer Madness does.”

That happened the moment I heard about it, just like I knew Bubba Clinton was a smarmy charlatan the minute I first saw him.

Some things don’t need to be explained, they shout “FAKE!”


34 posted on 12/20/2007 10:49:12 PM PST by Senormechanico
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To: DaveLoneRanger

This isn’t surprising because the warming alarmists are left with having to explain why their predictions aren’t coming true. Why the ice is thickening in the Antarctic and the discovery that Greenland’s melting is related to a thinning of the crust beneath it causing heat from magma close to the surface to increase the melting of the glaciers above. It seems the religion of Global warming is falling to Occam’s Razor. This “revelation” is an invitation to those in the scientific community that have been caught with their bias flapping in the wind an exit from a ideology that is collapsing from the weight of its own unreality.

Personally I think some of those in the movement knew that global warming wasn’t a real threat and were hoping to play a shell game on the world as the red tide of socialism rose on the backs of leftist hysteria. Fear didn’t work this time. We can be proud of the small role we played in acting as an intellectual firewall against the insanity of it.

The fight isn’t over but the smell of victory is in the air.


35 posted on 12/20/2007 10:51:04 PM PST by Maelstorm (Let us drive them over the cliffs where they would've had us jump.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

NEVER!

36 posted on 12/20/2007 10:54:23 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: endthematrix
lol.... I really needed a laugh for today.
Take care and MERRY CHRISTMAS
37 posted on 12/20/2007 11:03:19 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: AzNASCARfan

“Exactly why the term “Global Warming” is being phased out and replaced by “Climate Change”

To someday be replaced with “Global Moodswing.”


38 posted on 12/20/2007 11:06:03 PM PST by Gator113 (My short list..Fred, Hunter, Romney.)
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To: Gator113
And then followed up with Global Leave-Me-Alone-I-Have-A-Headache...

Hey, they don't call it Mother Earth for nothing!

39 posted on 12/20/2007 11:18:13 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Complaining about the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
anyone have time freep this poll please ? Hummers or Hikers
40 posted on 12/20/2007 11:19:16 PM PST by KTM rider ( SCOTUS '08 it's more than the oval office this time)
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To: TBP

remeber Nobel spelled backwards spells Le BON(e)


41 posted on 12/20/2007 11:24:58 PM PST by Porterville (Don't bug me about my grammar, you are not that great.)
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To: irishtenor

That’s all going to change tomorrow (22nd). It’s one of the happiest days in my year!


42 posted on 12/20/2007 11:28:24 PM PST by Albertafriend
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I thought it would take a couple more years before the models fell apart. I did some fluid dynamics at the graduate level, it’s tough to project airflow around an airplane, much less airflow around the world, with radiation and convection and chemical reactions and ionization and solar fluctuations and cloud albedo, and absorption rates, and biomass changes, and . . . for a hundred years. I could go on with more variables, but everyone gets the point.


43 posted on 12/20/2007 11:31:42 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: irishtenor

Will we have to pay extra for the stick?


44 posted on 12/20/2007 11:58:59 PM PST by Sockdologer (Waiting patiently for the Democrats to solve the world's problems.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
So we need to know why the models failed to predict that warming would stop

It is Bush's fault of course.....oh wait.

45 posted on 12/21/2007 12:15:25 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: DaveLoneRanger

See the Watermellons and Gore were RIGHT!
All we had to do was care really really really hard and a really really really lot, and Global Warming was stopped!


46 posted on 12/21/2007 12:18:24 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: DaveyB
Did those bears travel all the way to the south pole or did that penguin wander up to the north pole?

DHL.

47 posted on 12/21/2007 12:21:58 AM PST by SFConservative
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Can you spell hoax? Try “global warming”.


48 posted on 12/21/2007 12:24:43 AM PST by exnavy (God means love, not hate.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

You won!!!

That was very good. I laughed so hard that I almost woke HER up. ;>)


49 posted on 12/21/2007 12:29:43 AM PST by Gator113 (My short list..Fred, Hunter, Romney.)
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To: Kozak
"See the Watermellons and Gore were RIGHT!"

The greenies will claim victory. They made only a small error in calculation. Their effort beat the global warming menace. See how little effort it took?

Now we must concentrate on "Climate Change".

yitbos

50 posted on 12/21/2007 1:19:25 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. - Ayn Rand")
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