Skip to comments.Broward man charged with murder after road rage shooting
Posted on 12/21/2007 4:32:56 AM PST by sig226
DEERFIELD BEACH -- Broward County authorities say a man is been charged with murder following a road rage confrontation that resulted in his passenger being fatally shot.
Sheriff officials say 43-year-old Steven Lonzisero and another man approached a driver last week, accused him of driving poorly and shouted racial profanities.
That driver, 49-year-old Hygens Labidou, fired several shots from his legally permitted handgun. He struck Lonzisero and his passenger 28-year-old Edward Borowsky.
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Why is Lonzisero and not Labidou charged with murder?
Huh? Two punks go up to legally carrying driver trying to start something. Legally carrying driver shoots them. One punk dies and the other punk is charged with murder???
This article doesn't make much sense.
A very poorly written article.
If Lonzisero is being charged with assault with a deadly weapon, I would assume he was carrying also and threatened the driver since he was also charged with assault
I’m guessing that Lonzisero was the instigator of the fight (and crime) and as a result of his stupidity, his passenger is dead.
Like the bank robbery scenario and 1 thief is shot and killed. The other thief is charged with murder.
It doesn’t make sense, unless they approched the driver with guns drawn....
A very poorly written article from the lame msm, very unclear as to what happened.
Seems to me though that it is a clear cut case of self defense, but the msm doesn’t want it to appear that way.
It might be the legal caveat that if a person causes or incites the death of another he is the one held accountable for the act. Didn’t think it was the case for FL.
There seem to be some misplaced modifiers in this story. I don’t think I understand it.
hate crime/self defense
Personally I would have called 911 and then pulled the gun and told them to back off. I'm not really buying this guy's self-defense story.
I think it is pretty much a nationwide legal caveat
Ex: The driver of a getaway car is just as guilty as the guy who pulls the trigger who guns down a bank guard
“Huh? Two punks go up to legally carrying driver trying to start something. Legally carrying driver shoots them. One punk dies and the other punk is charged with murder???”
If someone dies during the commission of a crime in Florida anyone with the criminal can be charged in their death. This happens regardless of how the co-criminal died. Car accident, slip and fall, homeowner self defense, or anything else.
How many crimes does 911 stop?
I think the cops would have found a badly beaten or dead victim
Better story and the shooting sounds legitimate based on this story.
I am. The guy charged with murder is one bad dude. It's a shame he didn't die too.
" use his legally-permanent handgun "
I looked twice to be sure this happened in the US.
“How many crimes does 911 stop?”
None, but they do provide audio evidence of the event. As long as you are doing the right thing this can be valuable.
If he’s locked in his truck, it would take awhile for them to get to him, and if he points the gun at them and tells them to back off, unless they are really stupid, they back off.
“A better account but this still sounds like a Babelfish translation.”
This is Miami ya know. The reporters primary language is probably spanish.
As a writer and editor, it makes my head spin that so much garbage passes by the editors.
If the account is accurate, he didn't have time to lock himself in his truck. These guys were bad people, who I doubt would have backed off.
The article was written by a real idiot. It’s like a math problem with one part of the equation missing.
I am guessing what’s missing is the fact the Lonzisero had some sort of weapon when he approached the car.
Very simply “road rage is dangerous”, to your health. Take a deep breath and count to 10 and forget it.
The guy who died had a knife!
Nice thought! But I am responsible for my protection the police are responsible for taking the report.
911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer
“When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away,”
Glock when a 5 minute response time is a death sentence
According to the account they were kicking the truck and trying to open the door. It sounds like he already was locked in the truck. When police arrived, he was outside the truck standing over the “suspects.” I’m not going to cry over the guy charged with murder though, he sounds like a really bad guy and that society would be better served if he was not amongst us. I just can’t figure at waht point deadly force was necessary.
I just cant figure at waht point deadly force was necessary.
At the point he feared for his life....
Right, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away, and 911 has a “Hold” button.
Sounds like the guy did what he had to do. It is exactly why the CCW laws are in effect.
“...to use his legally-permanent hand gun, firing several shots to defend himself sticking both men.”
That's the felony murder provision IIRC. A death of any party during the commission of a felony results in a murder charge. I seem to recall a perp being charged under that law (don't remember where) when a patron had a heart attack during a bank holdup.
The law reads when you fear for your life.
I have lived in that part of the world, currently live on the west coast of Florida. Lots of nut cases and criminals live in S. Florida transplanted from other parts of the country.
I can easily understand how a Haitian guy would fear for his life when two thugs start beating on his car with a weapon drawn and you are locked in a traffic flow.
I carry a S&W 40 everyday in Tampa, if two thugs started beating on my car with a knife drawn screaming at me trying to break into my car, I would have done the exact same thing........except both thugs would have been dead........
That’s more like it.
"Repeat after me class: America bad. Capitalism bad. Bush Bad. Self defense bad."
I’m sure the “suspect” could say he feared for his life because of the “victim’s” driving. Was deadly force justified? Could simply pointing the gun at these two thugs have been enough to mitigate the situation?
I’m just thinking that if two guys, one of which has a knife get a gun pointed in their direction, they decide that they may need to back off.
I would have tossed the phone to the wife, simultaneously unholserting the weapon, she can call 911.
If no one is with me, weapon comes out first.
Point weapon, pull out phone, call 911, if suspects still persist in the face of a gun (highly unlikely IMO) then consider shooting.
I’m not assuming he was carrying. The way this article was written, that fact would have been mentioned.
Words don’t kill people.
You would think that would be the case, maybe the guy who was carrying should have stayed calmer and realized the two thugs were not too excited to realize their life be forfeited and tried to reason with them......................... or maybe he might be dead.
Just last week a guy bumped me from the rear trying to get around me in a traffic jam. Nothing serious, but I tossed my hands up saying in effect "Hey watch it"
He gets out of his car and stars to walk to my closed, locked truck. He asked me to roll my window down, he looked like he wanted to made sure I didn't question his driving skills
I make a hand signal of a gun and pointed down to my seat. His attitude changed from pissed to "no problem dude" and walked away.
If he stared beating on my window and acting like a mad man, it would have been a different story
Thanks for that post. With so many details left out of the first short story, it is hard to guess what happened.
One had a knife and they were trying to pull the shooter from his vehicle.
A much more detailed story here:
I stayed in my vehicle till the law arrived and explained to him I am in the possession of a CCW and do in fact have a firearm on me.
He takes my permit and drivers license and calmly walks up to the screaming loon and explained to her the situation...you think she saw a ghost.
She was only 5’5” about a 130lbs so she posed no serious threat to me and my family, but she most defiantly exposed her self to a possibly dangerous situation.
I wish police would ticket tailgaters more often. It’s dangerous.
LOL. I missed that one. “Is been.”