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Low-Key Thompson Stumbles Toward Finish Line
ABC ^ | 1/2/08 | Rick Klein

Posted on 01/02/2008 9:00:41 AM PST by pissant

Two days before the Iowa caucuses — day 15 of his 17-day "hands down" bus tour — former senator Fred Thompson's campaign bus stood motionless in the snowy parking lot of a West Des Moines motel, across from a movie theater and a suburban strip mall.

Thompson's campaign scheduled only one event for New Year's Day, a meet-and-greet at the Iowa Veterans Home in Marshalltown, about an hour outside Des Moines. Thompson, R-Tenn., shunned the bus, emblazoned with his picture, for the relative comfort of a black Chevrolet Suburban.

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Thompson has staked his campaign's prospects to Iowa. In seeking to jump-start his campaign last month, he promised to crisscross the Hawkeye State with visits to 50 cities and towns in 17 days aboard his new campaign bus.

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To: o_zarkman44

Paul can sound good. But does anyone think he can actully pull off the BS he says he wants to do??
Paul is a loose cannon. Maybe good in congress. But President, no thanks.


Paul has a fairly strong following that he’s developed over the years and they seemed to have rallied to his side this campaign. He’s didsplayed funding abilities and a loose knit organization that outshines many others including the 3rd parties, imo.

No I don’t think he’ll come anywhere near the nomination and he may have a fight on his hands in CD14 this time around. But he has enough funding to hang around for the duration even if it goes beyond Super Tuesday...

Paul has waxed stalwarts like Tancredo, Keyes, and Hunter all of whom he left in the dust sucking hind teat.


101 posted on 01/02/2008 9:51:09 AM PST by deport (---1 day Iowa Caucuses--- 6 days New Hampshire votes--- [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: skeeter

Iowa, that is:)


102 posted on 01/02/2008 9:51:21 AM PST by skeeter
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To: pissant

I like Fred a lot but he just seems quite tired is my first impression. And a stumble-talker when discussing issues unscripted. Both of these are very bad appearances for a presidential candidate.

Fred needs a B-12 shot and more sleep.


103 posted on 01/02/2008 9:51:23 AM PST by citizen ("Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: o_zarkman44
Only career politicians NEED a job.

BINGO!

I got out of media because I refused to dance to its tune -- I guess that's why I like Thompson.

104 posted on 01/02/2008 9:51:24 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Reagan Man

I like Fred just fine. Nice guy. Now tell him to throw his support to the Reganite.


105 posted on 01/02/2008 9:51:39 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Gabz

Got the transcript of that? I’d love to see it. Office-bound here.


106 posted on 01/02/2008 9:51:39 AM PST by RockinRight (Huckabee - Edwards' economics, Obama's foreign policy, but with a nice Jesus-approved smile.)
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To: pissant

Didn’t you get into trouble a while back for garbage like this?


107 posted on 01/02/2008 9:52:23 AM PST by Grunthor (Known to cause insanity in lab mice.)
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To: pissant

Dude, Duncan’s a great guy...and if he shows a better standing after tomorrow I might change my tune, but for all the talk about FRED not gaining traction then speaking of Hunter in the same breath?

Pot...kettle...


108 posted on 01/02/2008 9:52:29 AM PST by RockinRight (Huckabee - Edwards' economics, Obama's foreign policy, but with a nice Jesus-approved smile.)
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To: pissant

“Low Key”, “Lazy” Thompson’s schedule for today:

8:30 am
Fred Thompson does a live interview on “Morning in America” with Bill Bennett
10:35 am
Fred Thompson does a live interview on “The Laura Ingraham Show”
11:45 am
Fred Thompson is a guest on Fox News’ “Happening Now”
1:50 pm
Fred Thompson meets with voters at event in Waterloo, Iowa
4:15 pm
Fred Thompson meets with voters at event in Cedar Rapids, Iowa
6:00 pm
Fred Thompson does a live interview on “The Mark Levin Show.”
7:00 pm
Fred Thompson meets with voters at event in Davenport, Iowa
10:00 pm
Jeri Thompson does a live interview on Fox News’s “On the Record with Great Van Susteren”
11:00 pm
Fred Thompson does a live in studio interview with KCCI’s Kevin Cooney and Stacey Horst in Des Moines, Iowa

Funny how the media thinks one event on New Year is worth a whole article, but the above list doesn’t get a mention.

Qwinn


109 posted on 01/02/2008 9:53:00 AM PST by Qwinn
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Actually not really, some is easily deduced. Like how much is Mitt going to cost the GOP in the long run, McCain as a liability, how to handle Huckabee and such.

This will go down to the wire, and it will be Fred, maybe Rudy and a possible candidate X. That is what I see down the road.

110 posted on 01/02/2008 9:53:04 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Grunthor

No.


111 posted on 01/02/2008 9:53:50 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

“I assume the faster Fred drops out, the faster his conservative supporters will back the other conservative in the race, like they should have from day one.”

You should never “assume.” Most I’ve spoken to are going to give their support to Mitt should the worst happen and Fred drops out.


112 posted on 01/02/2008 9:54:23 AM PST by Grunthor (Known to cause insanity in lab mice.)
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To: pissant

Sort of funny in that someone else reported travelling with Thompson to over 30 stops that day.


113 posted on 01/02/2008 9:55:08 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: pissant
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1947202/posts

LOL!

114 posted on 01/02/2008 9:55:17 AM PST by Honeybunch ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." ~Rudyard Kipling)
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To: pissant

Except that Duncan is much more likely to drop out before Fred, not the reverse.


115 posted on 01/02/2008 9:56:06 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: pissant
Knew it would fall on dumb ears, as you defy every aspect of "logic".

Have a great day!

116 posted on 01/02/2008 9:56:15 AM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: DoughtyOne

I have the same stance in regard to Tancredo as you.

The rancor over these primaries I have seen here on FR has disturbed me greatly, most especially because it started so far in advance.


117 posted on 01/02/2008 9:56:29 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: pissant

That’s why I’m supporting Fred. If I thought Duncan had a snowball’s chance in July I’d send my donations his way, but he doesn’t and now it’s time to put up or shut up so I’m putting my money on Thompson.


118 posted on 01/02/2008 9:56:32 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: pissant

Wow, you make Duncan look bad. Duncan should ask you to back down as you are making them all look bad. In fact, you may be the reason he never caught on in the first place.


119 posted on 01/02/2008 9:56:58 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ImpBill

Some folks are listening. Happy New Year.

I’m Going To Flip Flop: Vote Duncan Hunter

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1947202/posts


120 posted on 01/02/2008 9:57:37 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: citizen

You must not have seen him on FOX this a.m. giving it right back to Jane Skinner who was asking really silly questions. He was spot on and looked great!


121 posted on 01/02/2008 9:57:40 AM PST by Honeybunch ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." ~Rudyard Kipling)
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To: ejonesie22
This will go down to the wire, and it will be Fred, maybe Rudy and a possible candidate X. That is what I see down the road.

I suspect Fred is going to do much better in Iowa tomorrow than many on FR and in the MSM think. I'm thinking a mini-Huckimplosion, with at least half of the Huck's support going to Fred. All else remaining the same per the latest polling, this would give Romney the win at 30%, Fred a close second at 27%, and McCain and Huckabee fighting it out for a distant third at around 14-15%, not counting the undecideds, of course.

122 posted on 01/02/2008 9:58:21 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Head and proud of it! Fear the Fred!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Cheap shot. I’m not surprised at all.


123 posted on 01/02/2008 9:58:29 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Grunthor

My condolences.


124 posted on 01/02/2008 10:00:14 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: citizen
I like Fred a lot but he just seems quite tired is my first impression.

Maybe this is why?

125 posted on 01/02/2008 10:00:37 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Head and proud of it! Fear the Fred!)
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To: deport

Paul has a libertarian appeal, especially since running as a Libertarian a couple decades ago. Paul also has gained some support from the anti war left who thinks the demoRats have not delivered on their promise of bringing the troops home.
My guess is that his money is mostly coming from the far left.
Hey I love the idea of abolishing the IRS. But I don’t think a complete overhaul of government is possible, just by stopping the funding. I see a picture of chaos,and the American people will be the ones who suffer because of the chaos.
I think Paul would be more inclined to launch a 3rd party candidacy. With his anti war stand, he would pull more left away from the demoRats than he would pulling away conservatives from the right. With the slim margins of the past few presidential elections, a Paul 3rd party candidacy would do more damage to the DemoRats in the final vote tally. At least that is what I envision. But who am I? And what do I know?


126 posted on 01/02/2008 10:00:37 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: RockinRight

I would hope that Fox News would have it -— but it’s somewhere that I can’t find....searching the Fox News website is not a strong point of mine.


127 posted on 01/02/2008 10:00:41 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Honeybunch

Fred is having trouble in his battle with Fox News.

That is the main mistake his campaign has made...fighting Fox. My guess is, the average Fox viewer would be a Thompson supporter if they KNEW more about him.

Fox will go with the flow, eventually. A strong showing in Iowa might change their coverage and voiced opinions about Fred.


128 posted on 01/02/2008 10:01:27 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Guess what? I'm voting for the Conservative.)
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To: pissant

It is sad that a great man like Hunter has such an abrasive and irritating supporter such as yourself.

LLS


129 posted on 01/02/2008 10:01:57 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: pissant

Is that the “royal we”, dear? Or has the psychosis spread to the mouse in your pocket?


130 posted on 01/02/2008 10:02:00 AM PST by brothers4thID (Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Grunthor; pissant
You should never “assume.” Most I’ve spoken to are going to give their support to Mitt should the worst happen and Fred drops out.

I'm not thrilled with Mitt, but I'd probably end up going with him if Fred drops. Mainly to stop the other more liberal guys and since Duncan is impossible to win and with supporters like pissant...he just turns me off from even considering duncan.

131 posted on 01/02/2008 10:02:06 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Gabz
The rancor over these primaries I have seen here on FR has disturbed me greatly, most especially because it started so far in advance.

Me too. The problem is things started so early and until Fred announced it looked like we weren't going to have a viable conservative in the race. I remember back in 2000 when W. first announced and there were a bunch of Freepers who thought he was being given the nomination...and then the flack over 'Compassionate Conservative' but it was never as nasty as it was this time around.

132 posted on 01/02/2008 10:03:07 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Qwinn

LOL! A week of being that ‘Low Key’ and I think I’d be dead.


133 posted on 01/02/2008 10:04:04 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: RockinRight

Dude, Duncan’s a great guy...and if he shows a better standing after tomorrow I might change my tune,


That Duncan fellar won’t show a better standing after the caucuses tomorrow. I bet he’s not even in the state today trying to get anyone to attend the event and cast a vote for him. He doesn’t have a national campaign, very little money even with the $100,000 fed matching funds, hasn’t set himself up among the GOP to become a front runner, isn’t a go to person, etc...... His campaign is not even gasping air at this stage, it’s dead in the water awaiting to be submerged.


134 posted on 01/02/2008 10:06:20 AM PST by deport (---1 day Iowa Caucuses--- 6 days New Hampshire votes--- [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: citizen

How many times has a fast talking salesman sold something the purchaser regretted buying later?
Just buy and I will promise you a lifetime of wigits.

Fred is not tired. He is just compared to rock stars and trendy breck bois and gurls. Life in the fast lane is not his style and he isn’t attempting to be someone he isn’t comfortable with being.


135 posted on 01/02/2008 10:06:47 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: rightinthemiddle
That is the main mistake his campaign has made...fighting Fox. My guess is, the average Fox viewer would be a Thompson supporter if they KNEW more about him.

that was a decision FOX made...not Fred. They're so deep in the tank for Guilliani they haven't seen the sun shine for months.

136 posted on 01/02/2008 10:06:52 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: pissant

Gotta tell ya, I’m depressed about how poorly Thompson is doing. There’s no one else I wanted to vote for.


137 posted on 01/02/2008 10:08:40 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: pgkdan

So many here are agreeing with the MSM that Thompson got into the race “so late” but in actuality the others all started way too early. Thompson got into the race at the traditional time to do so.

I totally agree with you in regard to the level of nastiness here in comparison to 2000...and at that time I found the nastiness to b overboard, but it was tame in comparison to what I have been seeing for the past 6+ months.


138 posted on 01/02/2008 10:10:27 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: deport

You are correct. Today, he is in NH. In Nevada the last few days prior.


139 posted on 01/02/2008 10:11:28 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: MEGoody

Your opinion is so depressing to a student of American politics. You say you are depressed about Fred’s showing before a single votes has been cast. NO matter who your candidate is, if you are serious about supporting him you need to be out talking to friends and neighbors, volunteering time and writing the campaign with your thoughts and views. Government can only be FOR the people if it has the CONTRIBUTION of the people.

And, no, posting on FR does not qualify as active support. That’s just noise, however comforting.


140 posted on 01/02/2008 10:13:07 AM PST by brothers4thID (Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

That is what is so cool. That may well happen.


141 posted on 01/02/2008 10:13:15 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: LS
You know, this is another reason why you can’t get started late in the primary season: by December in IA and NH, it can be near impossible to even get around, so your campaigning has to be “in the can” by then.

The starting date had nothing to do with it. The MSM are shutting him out because he won't dance to their tune.

IOW he refuses to put on the media clown act.

.the media's dream candidate

142 posted on 01/02/2008 10:13:31 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (“Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.” George Burns)
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To: Grunthor
Didn’t you get into trouble a while back for garbage like this?

Quite a few times with JimRob, suspended, reinstated, and yet he never learns.

143 posted on 01/02/2008 10:15:06 AM PST by Pistolshot (Never argue with stupid people, they just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: Gabz

You mean all the ones leading him . . . significantly?


144 posted on 01/02/2008 10:16:06 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Rush Limbaugh: "it's the candidate's job to get noticed."

One way you get noticed is, like Rudy did, you buy a full page ad vs. Moveon.org in the NY Times, or have a big speech on religion at the Bush Library. Hmmm, these take $$$. Money is raised through organizations, which take a LOT of time to form.

A better way to put it then, is that "Fred shut out the MSM for so long they forgot about him."

BTW, it's such a silly notion that Fred isn't taking off because of "the media," if for no other reason than Huckabee, who came out of nowhere, or Ron Paul, who is raising all sorts of money without ANY media attention.

145 posted on 01/02/2008 10:18:52 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: for-q-clinton; pissant

“and with supporters like pissant...he just turns me off from even considering duncan.”

Ditto. He’s like an average Paulistinian on the tact meter.


146 posted on 01/02/2008 10:19:57 AM PST by Grunthor (Known to cause insanity in lab mice.)
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To: pissant

It’s interesting to see some of the ongoing excuses for why Fred isn’t doing well, despite the fact that Huck had ZERO media coverage early, and Ron Paul has never had any media coverage and has out-fund-raised Fred many times over.


147 posted on 01/02/2008 10:20:02 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Grunthor; pissant

Yes, he did. Pissant has been carrying on like this since June. He seems to be holding Thompson responsible for the fact that Hunter hasn’t gained traction. The fact is that Hunter has a very poor campaign organization, he hasn’t managed to draw the media’s attention to himself as a candidate, and he’s now going down without a fight.
In the meantime, pissant is going to badmouth Thompson to the end, as though it might help Hunter. BTW, pissant assured us repeatedly that Thompson was his “2nd choice.” (Check out his June-July-August posts for proof.)


148 posted on 01/02/2008 10:20:32 AM PST by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: LS

I have been a political junkie for more than 30 years, even before I was old enough to vote. Starting a campaign nearly 2 years prior to the vote is starting far too early in my opinion.

I’m not talking about discussing said campaign, starting that nearly 4 years prior to the vote is a bit much, I’m talking about starting the campaign.

BTW - not all are leading him, nor are all those leading doing so significantly. Polls are actually useless at this stage of the game.


149 posted on 01/02/2008 10:21:28 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: pissant; org.whodat

When I read that, it reminded me of the sanctimonious senator in the movie “The Aviator”, trying to destroy Howard Hughes with charges of spending money on a plane that never flew.


150 posted on 01/02/2008 10:21:58 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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